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Developments  [message #24020] Sat, 19 March 2005 23:00 Go to next message
Eothain is currently offline  Eothain

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Now, I know I kinda left some time back in a bit of a mood and such, but there has been quite a major development recently with Alex which I'm sure you'd all be all to enthraled to hear (heck, I have no-one else to tell). Since my 'parting' there's not been too much on. Well, I met a few parents of various year 7s and such (so they'll see what a nice guy I am!) but the main development is with Alex. Anyhow this week was the last week of the Easter Term (next term involves exams, but that's not important). On Tuesday, I think, he said I should come over to his house some time during the hols which I was like, yeah, that'd be cool. Then yesturday, after karate and when walking to his mum's car, I mentioned perhaps arranging to see each other the hols, following up what he said previously and he thought it was a good idea so, lo and behold, he gave me his phone number! His phone number! Eeee! I now have a way of contacting him out of school and perhaps arranging to see each other over the hols which would be fantastic. What's more he said I should phone him some time over the hols and what better consimation of friendship is there than seeing each other out of school and going to each other's houses and hanging out! Pretty blingin', huh?

I might get to see my friend, my best friend, over the holiday, and it'd be great! Just like being brothers (the type of which I've wanted for years), hanging out together in such a close friendship! Just like James and Martin... sort of! When I began mentoring, I never expected anything like this to happen, I hardly dared to dream it.

And another random development, my parents are getting a divorce.
Re: Developments  [message #24024 is a reply to message #24020] Sat, 19 March 2005 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Consimation......

Interesting choice of words......



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Re: Developments  [message #24027 is a reply to message #24020] Sun, 20 March 2005 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Glad to see you back again & feeling cheerful.



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Re: Developments  [message #24028 is a reply to message #24020] Sun, 20 March 2005 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm glad you have a friend who is like Alex.

Rotten to hear about folks getting divirced. How is that affecting you?



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Re: Developments  [message #24029 is a reply to message #24028] Sun, 20 March 2005 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Rotten to hear about folks getting divirced. How is that affecting you?"

Not really much at all, despite what my sisters might think. I'm just indifferent, in a true teenage fashion. Makes hardly any difference to me, really.

"Consimation......

Interesting choice of words......"

Maybe the wrong word to use, I dunno, but what's so interesting about it, if you don't me asking?
Re: Developments  [message #24030 is a reply to message #24029] Sun, 20 March 2005 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eothain of Rohan, Child of the Riddermark wrote:

> "Consimation......
>
> Interesting choice of words......"
>
> Maybe the wrong word to use, I dunno, but what's so interesting about it, if you don't me asking?

Firstly, it is spelled wrongly.... the correct spelling is CONSUMATE

It refers to the sexual act as it relates to a relationship.

I think it speaks volumes.....



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Re: Developments  [message #24031 is a reply to message #24030] Mon, 21 March 2005 03:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marc, if you are going to correct someone's spelling then please do it with the correct spelling otherwise you'll tend to look a little foolish. "Consummate" is how it is actually spelt according to http://www.m-w.com I know my spelling isn't perfect, but then again I try not to criticise others' spelling unless I know the correct spelling myself.

Additionally, while the most common usage of consummate is used in reference to marriage the term simply means to "finalise", "guarantee" or "complete". It only has a sexual connotation socially but it can accurately be used in reference to a business deal, contract, etc. In Eothain's case I'm sure he was using the more literal definition- he feels that by being able time at his friend's house their friendship will become a "fuller" friendship, rather than something that only is present at school. I have a few consummate friendships that I know will last forever and that is what Eothain seeks with Alex. He might consider Alex "attractive" as a person, but just because someone is attractive that doesn't mean you need to have sex with them, maybe you'd disagree with that assertation, though.

I know you are a well intentioned, Marc and your attitude is only in response to your own hurt and the perceived hurt you believe Eothain may cause. But I know Eothain, he is my friend, and I would trust him with my kids if I had any. He may get confused with his feelings from time to time, but his intentions aren't evil, misguided and self-centred? Maybe, but it isn't my place to judge. Evil, though? Not at all.



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Re: Developments  [message #24032 is a reply to message #24031] Mon, 21 March 2005 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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First, I don't overly care about the spelling.

Second, as sure you are that he is using the word with benign expectations I am equally convinced he is aiming for the more sexual.

You of course are entitled to your opinion as well as evaluation of this situation. I would not place my children in the same building with him.

Evil, I never said the word in referance to him....

But there are others that would apply.



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Developments  [message #24034 is a reply to message #24020] Mon, 21 March 2005 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eothain of Rohan, Child of the Riddermark wrote:
> (next term involves exams, but that's not important)

Mocks, right?

Also, to end the debate: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=consummation
Re: Developments  [message #24036 is a reply to message #24034] Mon, 21 March 2005 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not mocks. He will be taking real public exams known as AS levels. These form the basis for university entrance



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Re: Developments  [message #24037 is a reply to message #24036] Mon, 21 March 2005 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Indeed. And I'm going to fail spectactularly. 'Least for my GCSEs I had experience and a reasonable amount of confident due to doing okay in previous experiences. When you get an E in an exam even with revision, it doesn't exactly do wonders to ones confidence.

As for the commsumation debate, as I don't intend to marry Alex, I doubt the second meaning at dictionary.com is really applicable. Nor do I want to have intercourse anyway, of course.
Re: Developments  [message #24038 is a reply to message #24037] Mon, 21 March 2005 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eothain of Rohan, Child of the Riddermark wrote:
> Indeed. And I'm going to fail spectactularly. >

You may do better than you think. But it isn't the end of the world if you don't do well! You can always re-sit next year, or whatever (I did at 'A' levels). This has been a fairly tough year for you, and parents divorcing is not an easy thing to cope with, even just in terms of sorting out the mechanics of custodial and access arrangements, etc.

There's no doubt that passing with reasonable grades would very much broaden your options for the next five years or so. But in the long run, what counts is not exams but overall achievement: when I employ staff, I look at what they've *done*, not just what bits of paper they have!

all best wishes



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Re: Developments  [message #24086 is a reply to message #24038] Mon, 28 March 2005 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay, what's happened in the previous week? Well, I texted Alex on Tuesday and didn't get any response 'till Friday when he texted saying 'How are the hols?' and at which time I realized that I'd typed in his number wrong earlier (somehow I mistook a 0 for a 9...), so I replied and got a response today, just as I came in from going out with the family actually. So, spured on by my mum, I phoned Alex. And spent the next 45 or so minutes talking to him, it was great! Then my phone ran out of credit before I could either get his home number, or him mine, or arrange meeting up some time. So, tommorow I'm gonna phone him and give him my home number, and hopefully get his (then we can talk cheaper, yay! Free if he has talk talk, I think) and, God willing, arrange to meet up some time. Think this is a good idea?

Also, Billy Elliot was on TV today. Nice film. Sweet bit when Billy and his friend kiss, took me by suprise though. Also, Billy looks exactly like one of the kids in the video to Vidrar vel til loftorosa by Sigur Ros. Except slightly younger (which would make sense as the film is slightly older than the video). Wonder if it's the same actor! Would be wierd for Icelandic people to use a kid from Durham. Cool accents they have, though.
Re: Developments  [message #24087 is a reply to message #24086] Mon, 28 March 2005 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think the further you go with this the closer you will get to what you want.



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Developments  [message #24090 is a reply to message #24086] Tue, 29 March 2005 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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decent friendships are based on good communications.

Oh I don't think smith bell went to iceland



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Re: Developments  [message #24091 is a reply to message #24090] Tue, 29 March 2005 21:49 Go to previous message
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Well, I text him. Seemed the most logical approach to use (especially at around quater to ten at night). Just hope I don't appear to be too foward...

And alas that he didn't. Still, he does look just like that kid. Maybe he has a twin brother... Who happens to be Icelandic or by coincidence, was there at the time when they filmed that video!
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