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Communication from Neph, posted by request  [message #24102] Fri, 01 April 2005 08:36 Go to next message
timmy

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Yesterday (Wednesday) in the holy city of Jerusalem something absolutely unprecedented happened. The leaders of all the faiths in the city sat down together around a table and held a joint press conference. The two Chief Rabbis were there. A senior Moslem cleric was there representing the Wakf. The protestant bishop was there. The Roman Catholic delegate was there - sitting next to (horror of horrors!) the Greek Orthodox archbishop.

The meeting together of all these divines is unprecedented. What was the message that they had gathered together to announce to the world? Might it have been a message of peace and brotherly love between all religions? Might it have been a call for peace in the Holy Land? Might it have been to offer a common prayer for all those suffering in this world?

Not on your life!

What brought all these religious leaders together, what united them into one voice, was the call that the International World Pride parade not be permitted to be held in the holy city of Jerusalem. Those gays would pollute the sanctity of the city with their lewd and unholy frolicking. They are the scum of the world and they must not be permitted to achieve their unholy design.

THAT was what brought all those kindly, loving, clerics together.

When the International World Pride event was held in Rome the Pope vigorously objected. It didn't help and the event was held and it was a huge success. The event will take place in Jerusalem next August whether these prelates like it or not - and the theme will be "Love without borders" between all peoples and all faiths. How dare they proclaim such heretical nonsense???!!!

If you want more information about the World Pride event in Jerusalem you will find it here: http://www.worldpride.net/. Read it and find out what so inflames the religious leaders of the Jews, the Moslems, the Christians of all persuasions.



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Re: Communication from Neph, posted by request  [message #24103 is a reply to message #24102] Fri, 01 April 2005 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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What's the big deal anyway? Was this unexpected? I don't think so... or at least to anyone with a bit of sense.


They are doing their job as they see it needind done. Nothing more mothing less.

Does it make a difference? Nope.... Will it make for a better or worse pride event? Nope....

It is what is and thats all that it is....

Now on a more sober note.... Ever been to a large pride event? They can be pretty scummy.... Thenk Gawd....::-)



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Re: Communication from Neph, posted by request  [message #24104 is a reply to message #24103] Fri, 01 April 2005 09:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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The part I find interesting is not their opposition to the event. I took that as read.

I find it interesting that they will actually all sit down together over a topic like homosexuality, rather than positive meetings to solve global problems



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Re: Communication from Neph, posted by request  [message #24105 is a reply to message #24104] Fri, 01 April 2005 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How could they possibly solve anything on a global level? They can't even come to terms with their own back yard.



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Re: Communication from Neph, posted by request  [message #24106 is a reply to message #24105] Fri, 01 April 2005 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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And yet they bother about homosexuality. Far better to bother about civil wars caused by their religions, about hunger, about slavery that still exists.



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Thanks, Neph, for posting the article  [message #24108 is a reply to message #24102] Fri, 01 April 2005 15:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smith is currently offline  smith

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Thats's really sad that they call me the scum of the world. They've never even met me :-/ I've never actually seen lewd and unholy frolicking...Is it listed in the Homosexual Handbook?

Love without borders.....Ummm, I think that's what God means when he says to love your neighbor as you love yourself. Those hot shot religious leaders are rewriting the rules?? I think they're gonna have some 'splainin' to do when God reminds them about the "No Borders" concept.

Happy April Fool's Day ~ I kinda think I know who fits that category this beautiful morning Cool

smith
Re: Thanks, Neph, for posting the article  [message #24109 is a reply to message #24108] Fri, 01 April 2005 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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smith wrote:
> Thats's really sad that they call me the scum of the world. They've never even met me :-/ I've never actually seen lewd and unholy frolicking...Is it listed in the Homosexual Handbook?

Well, I have...... and the leweder and unholier the better too
>
> Love without borders.....Ummm, I think that's what God means when he says to love your neighbor as you love yourself. Those hot shot religious leaders are rewriting the rules?? I think they're gonna have some 'splainin' to do when God reminds them about the "No Borders" concept.

Love your neighboe as you love yourself...... Hmmmmm

Now that does evoke some mental imaging to be sure....
>
> Happy April Fool's Day ~ I kinda think I know who fits that category this beautiful morning Cool
>
> smith
Surprised ::-) Surprised ::-)



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Re: Communication from Neph, posted by request  [message #24113 is a reply to message #24102] Sat, 02 April 2005 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I found the following response reported by Associated Press:

Jerusalem gay leader vows to proceed with summer festival despite clerics' protests

A gay leader in Jerusalem said yesterday that the fervent opposition of Jewish, Muslim and Christian religious leaders had made organizers of an international gay festival more determined to proceed with plans to hold the 10-day event in August in the capital. "If anyone had any hesitation about how important this event is, after the unfortunate remarks made at Wednesday's press conference, I think no such questions remain," Jerusalem Open House director Hagai El-Ad said. "It's important that one of the first signs of interfaith dialogue we have encountered here in Jerusalem takes place around such a negative message." (AP)



The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
Re: Thanks, Neph, for posting the article  [message #24133 is a reply to message #24109] Tue, 05 April 2005 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, it's always easier to get together and kvetch about something you can't do anything about, than to actually sit down and get serious about problems that might have some real impact on actual lives. Doesn't suprise me at all that this issue brought all the clerics slithering out from under their respective rocks.

cheers!

aj



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Re: Communication from Neph, posted by request  [message #24207 is a reply to message #24113] Tue, 19 April 2005 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And now I have found this, which sounds a whole lot better:

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/566999.html



The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
Re: Communication from Neph, posted by request  [message #24208 is a reply to message #24207] Tue, 19 April 2005 17:56 Go to previous message
timmy

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That does seem more positive.



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