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When is the next Famous Gays going to materialize?  [message #25844] Mon, 29 August 2005 10:53 Go to next message
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Re: When is the next Famous Gays going to materialize?  [message #25846 is a reply to message #25844] Mon, 29 August 2005 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Who solved the last one?



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Re: When is the next Famous Gays going to materialize?  [message #25847 is a reply to message #25846] Mon, 29 August 2005 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marc, wasn't it?
Re: When is the next Famous Gays going to materialize?  [message #25848 is a reply to message #25847] Mon, 29 August 2005 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll do an "unofficial" one. If Marc wants to do one of his own, then he can have the next one.
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Re: When is the next Famous Gays going to materialize?  [message #25855 is a reply to message #25848] Tue, 30 August 2005 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It seesm to be neither of Plato nor Socrates, but it looks 'armless enough



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Re: When is the next Famous Gays going to materialize?  [message #25856 is a reply to message #25855] Tue, 30 August 2005 12:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A couple of clues:

i. He wasn't Greek
ii. He lived in the second millenium AD
Re: When is the next Famous Gays going to materialize?  [message #25857 is a reply to message #25856] Tue, 30 August 2005 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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beards of that approximate style were popular during the 16th century as well as the 18th century.
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Francis Drake?
Re: When is the next Famous Gays going to materialize?  [message #25859 is a reply to message #25858] Tue, 30 August 2005 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nope, afraid not.

He was a sculptor.
Re: When is the next Famous Gays going to materialize?  [message #25863 is a reply to message #25848] Tue, 30 August 2005 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Could this be Michaelangelo Buonarotti?



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Michelangelo  [message #25864 is a reply to message #25863] Tue, 30 August 2005 15:51 Go to previous message
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Indeed!
http://www.michelangelo.com/buonarroti.html

From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelangelo

Fundamental to Michelangelo's art is his love of male beauty, which attracted him both aesthetically and emotionally. Such feelings caused him great anguish, and he expressed the struggle between platonic ideals and carnal desire in his sculpture, drawing and his poetry, too, for among his other accomplishments Michelangelo was the great Italian lyric poet of the 16th century.

The sculptor loved a great many youths, many of whom posed for him and likewise slept with him. Some were of high birth, like the sixteen year old Cecchino dei Bracci, a boy of exquisite beauty whose death, only a year after their meeting in 1543, inspired the writing of forty eight funeral epigrams. Others were street wise and took advantage of the sculptor. Febbo di Poggio, in 1532, peddled his charms - in answer to Michelangelo's love poem he asks for money. Earlier, Gherardo Perini, in 1522, had stolen from him shamelessly.

His greatest love was Tommaso dei Cavalieri (1516–1574), who was 16 years old when Michelangelo met him in 1532, at the age of 57. In their first exchange of letters, January 1, 1533, Michelangelo declares: Your lordship, only worldly light in this age of ours, you can never be pleased with another man's work for there is no man who resembles you, nor one to equal you. . . It grieves me greatly that I cannot recapture my past, so as to longer be at your service. As it is, I can only offer you my future, which is short, for I am too old. . . That is all I have to say. Read my heart for "the quill cannot express good will." Cavalieri was open to the older man's affection: I swear to return your love. Never have I loved a man more than I love you, never have I wished for a friendship more than I wish for yours. He remained devoted to his lover till the very end, holding his hand as he draws his last breath.

Michelangelo dedicated to him over three hundred sonnets and madrigals, constituting the largest sequence of poems composed by him. Though modern apologists hasten to assert the relationship was merely a Platonic affection, the sonnets are the first large sequence of poems in any modern tongue addressed by one man to another, predating Shakespeare's sonnets to his young friend by a good fifty years.

I feel as lit by fire a cold countenance
That burns me from afar and keeps itself ice-chill;
A strength I feel two shapely arms to fill
Which without motion moves every balance.

— (Michael Sullivan, translation)
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