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Well, actually this is just another "Famous Gay". This won't be so easy, so I'll start off with a broad clue:
Born in Australia, died in USA and with a very strong connection with Norway.
(The original photo being rather small I have enlarged it for you, which involves some loss of quality.)
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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Heres a larger/higher-quality file of the same picture. He really is quite gorgeous.
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Attachment: lrg.jpg
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It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
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David, thanks for the public service. Does this mean that you can name this person? If so, do it!
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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Hey JFR, can u aid me by telling me with what letter of the alphabet his name starts?
A truth told with bad intent
Beats all the lies you can invent
-William Blake
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Well i can name the person, but I'm not really prepared to post another famous gay so I figure I'll let someone else figure it out.
It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
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This just has to be Percy Grainger.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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However, the official webste has him saying that homosexuality is not for him. he was into flagellation.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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There is no real evidence that Grainger was gay. I have found one site that says it, but every other location says nothing, or more strongly "not"
He was rather striking, though.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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One other reason I didn't want to post the name is because to find it, I literally just searched in google the terms " "born australia" "died USA" norway gay" and I didn't think that was really fair.
It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
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hmmm...He's was hard to find, but google is alot of help
http://gayinfo.tripod.com <<
A truth told with bad intent
Beats all the lies you can invent
-William Blake
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timmy wrote:
> There is no real evidence that Grainger was gay. I have found one site that says it, but every other location says nothing, or more strongly "not"
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> He was rather striking, though.<
First of all, yes it is Percy Grainger. Secondly, I don't know what kind of web search you did, but I offer below a few of the more reliable sites where is homosexuality is mentioned. He was so beautiful that he even turned the head of the composer Edvard Grieg who had a sexual relationship with him even though he (Grieg) was not otherwise gay as far as we know. Anyway, with a face like that he should be in our pantheon (even though he was a racist, an anti-semite, was into whipping etc etc etc.
In a couple of places I have quoted the relevant text from the site for the benefit of those who don't want to click on the links. However, I do suggest that you click on the last link: the explanation is given with the link.
Over to you, Timmmy.
Percy Grainger (1882-1961) was a gay Australian composer and pianist. Grainger was dazzlingly good-looking; both Edvard Grieg (see above) and gay American poet Vachel Lindsay (1879-1931) lost their hearts to the young man.
http://www.league-ncr.com/library/history/heritage2.html
http://www.qrd.org/qrd/media/music/1992/musicians-10.25.92
http://www.paulsgaystamps.com/The%20Victorian%20Age/The_Victorian_Age_Percy_Grainger.htm
Born in Melbourne, Grainger was a gay composer and pianist. He was dazzlingly good-looking; both Edvard Grieg and gay American poet Vachel Lindsay lost their hearts to the young man. He is remembered for a number of songs and short instrumental pieces drawing on folk idioms, particularly Country Gardens (1925). He died at White Plains, New York.
http://andrejkoymasky.com/liv/fam/biog3/grai1.html
http://www.percygrainger.net/
Although this site does not mention his homosexuality (or his sadomasochism) it does offer a dazzling picture of the young man. Just click on "English". I was not able to copy this picture; not sure why.
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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OK. Internet Explorer wouldn't let me download the picture I mentioned at the end of my last post. But Firefox did!
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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Ok, I still think the jury is out in his being gay or not. But I'll put a new one up, tomorrow.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Years ago when I began my bearded protestor phase (which I've never really left since, though I hope to grow up one day!) I was interested by Grainger's interpretation of British folk songs - folk music being a lifelong interest of mine. At that time I heard the racist accusation, but I also heard an alternative view, which I'm glad to find mentioned in several websites offering a Grainger biography. The 'racist/anti-semitic' tag was always a bit hard to swallow, since he numbered both blacks and jews among his close friends. The alternative view, which had a resonance for me because of my passion for folk music, local history and dialect, was that he opposed the idea of a cosmopolitan society because (rightly, as it turns out) he saw this as a threat to the integrity of the musical and other traditions of individual racial groups, and particularly of the Anglo-Saxon groupings to which he was so proud to belong.
In particular, it is hard to justify attachment of a racist label to a man who was a close friend and admirer of Duke Ellington, and who attempted to extol the virtues of jazz construction - essentially a black idiom - to a largely resistant White America.
Percy surely deserves his place in our pantheon; he was undoubtedly famous in his day, he left a legacy which has yet to be thoroughly critically assessed, and he WAS heart-stoppingly beautiful!
By the way, Moogle's second post below contains a link well worth following; it reminds us that being gay isn't the prerogative of English-speaking nations, and it contains a fund of ideas for subsequent winners on the 'famous gay' thread - all you need to do is choose an English speaker and find a different photograph with a bit of judicious googling. Thanx, Moog!
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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I know this site is male in majority, but I think a Few famous lesbians now and then would make these posts a little more interesting, don't u all think so?
In fact, many good lesbian friends and important people have acheived alot in the last few years.
I'm not saying this is a must, but I'm positive that it'll make google work at least a bit harder... and the search all the more fun
So you "famous gay" posters could take it into account, perhaps in the next five or six posts...
Just an idea...
A truth told with bad intent
Beats all the lies you can invent
-William Blake
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Win one, post one
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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While I take Moogle's point (and agree with it), to be absolutely fair let's recall that we have already had in this series Dana International, Edna Ferba and Mary Renault.
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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cossie wrote:
> The 'racist/anti-semitic' tag was always a bit hard to swallow, since he numbered both blacks and jews among his close friends... In particular, it is hard to justify attachment of a racist label to a man who was a close friend and admirer of Duke Ellington <
This is good to read. To bolster the point let's also mention close collaboration with George Gershwin. However, Cossie, remember the old response to the accusation of racism: "Some of my best friends are Jews".
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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