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Here is yet another Famous Gay who hailed from Britain - England even. This portrait was done when he was about 20 years old and he died about 20 years or so later. He would NEVER have described himself as homosexual, but his friends certainly did and his writings show that he most definitely was gay in his orientation. He probably never had a physical sexual encounter in his life. I think those are enough clues to be getting on with. More will be provided if needed.
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The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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I pronounce myself stumped. If there is enough information there for someone who has no idea who this person is to work it out, please could someone post the process they used? I don't know if I can't work it out because everything there is too inspecific, or just because I'm rubbish at using Google. 
What we have so far:
- This was a writer of some sort
- He was English
- He was in the closet
- He died at about 40
- He never married or had a partner (presumably)
- He probably lived a couple of hundred years ago (from the clothes he is wearing)
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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Lord. This needs apologies to the Brits as well.
I had a Byron feeling, but not
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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cossie
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Location: Exiled in North East Engl...
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... when the picture doesn't appear! In fact, the site's behaving a little strangely - I can't call up any pictures included in posts, and the 'Thread Overview' keeps disppearing. Guess I'll try again tomorrow!
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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of the same man. It's specially for Cossie, because of his failing eyesight - sometimes a sign of incipient senility  This picture is of the man shortly before the onset of the illness ("consumption", TB) which carried him off. And yet another clue: although this is not what made him famous this man was a priest in the Order of Jesuits.
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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timmy
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OK, that did it. Gerard Manley (how Ironic in view of the first picture) Hopkins, whose looks did not improve with age.
An odd poet indeed, who invented words to make his poetry the more intriguing.
He does seem to have been rather a prig and a pain, from the biogs I've found.
Oddly I have "Towery city and branchy between towers" often in my head as a part of his description of Oxford.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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the site had huge problems yesterday morning when the web host totally screwed up and scrambled us. But it ought ot be back to normal. You may have a persistent cache between you and it. CTRL/Refresh tends to clear this.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Right you are. GMH it is! I think your judgement is a little harsh, Timmy. Can you imagine what it must have been like for an Anglican who converted to Roman Catholicism and entered the Jesuit order and became a priest to have to deal with his homosexuality - at the height of English Victorian prudery and pseudo-morality? Timmy, one of his best friends and mentors was CARDINAL Newman. Be a little more generous.
Over to you.
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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timmy
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I think they wewre messing about with it (without our authority) while you were posting! They are the devil we know,though
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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He was "liked but found to be odd" by his colleagues. It appears he was "a useless preacher" too. He also believed, says one biog, that the bible was inerrant.
An oddly pretty 20 year old, and yet not. The Victorians were an odd bunch but were not as moral as they appeared. Male prostitution was pevalent and the alleged morality was up to the front door. But behind it the morality was less present. Maids and footmen were used for the pleasure of the upper classes. I suspect it was the middle classes who were fooled as usual into "being moral"
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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