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Bb - - D F - F - | F - - - . . . . | A - - C F - F - | F - - - . . . . | Eb - - G Bb - Bb - | Bb - - - A G F Eb | D - - F Bb - Bb - | Bb - -
I've got a picture, but I thought first
(a) can you decifer my notation?
(b) can you tell me who wrote it?
(c) for bonus marks, which piece of work is it from?
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Timmy, any chance you could set up one of your polls?
Or is it too off-topic?
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Sure
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Ok, I sat at the piano, and failed miserably
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Well I failed miserably at attempting (a), but now I hear it it sounds like Mozart. Can't place it though.
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OK I am going for Sir Arthur Sullivan with "When you're lying awake" from Iolanthe, Act II if I recall. The wonderful last line is "We're all fairies now!"
To be fair there weren't enough notes to be 100% sure.
ID courtesy of "The Directroy of Tunes, compiled by Denys Parsons. I believe it is now also available online, we have it as a book.
http://www.league-ncr.com/library/history/heritage2.html has a paragrpah about his sexuality
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However the rendition at your site, David, is not what I was expectimng at all
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Nope... we're looking approximately 200 years ago.
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I personally think his music is better Mozart. And that Mozart is overrated.
It's a highly contentious issue, and I expect that many classical music scholars would patronise me for expressing that opinion, but actually this chap is generally acknowledged to be one of the top few composers ever to have lived.
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Heck of a coincidence though
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Franz Schubert, Symphony No. 5 In B-Flat Major, D. 485 first movement.
Great piece of music.
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When I was a student, I fell in love with his songs. It became a long lasting relationship.
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Would you have recognised it without the other clues?
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Um, no.
I vaguely recognised the picture, matched it against the one in Wikipedia. Then went to Amazon to listen to his "greatest hits".
Thanks, it was fun. Never knew that Schubert was gay though.
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Well done! Over to you then.
I still wonder if someone would have been able to work it out from my original:
Bb - - D F - F - | F - - - . . . . | A - - C F - F - | F - - - . . . . | Eb - - G Bb - Bb - | Bb - - - A G F Eb | D - - F Bb - Bb - | Bb - -
I did in fact transcribe it note for note from a copy of Schubert's Symphony no. 5, which I got out of the university library because I have a vague interest in scoring. (I write diabolically bad piano compositions from time to time, but don't know yet how to write for orchestra.)
It's in quavers, where a - is a tied note and a . is a rest.
Maybe next time I could try transcribing the tune to a well-known popular tune, and see if anyone can recognise it. Or maybe it would just annoy everyone. 
Incidentally, did everyone know that a bassoon is called a fagott in German? Yes, you probably did, but it brings a smile to the lips of a schoolboy-at-heart.
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timmy wrote:
> Ok, I sat at the piano, and failed miserably<
Me too :'-(
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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When travelling by train, I often wondered if it was possible to play the tunes the birds composed by sitting on the teegraph wires alongside the track.
Then came Stockhausen!
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but which direction do the notes head? Up or down?
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Good point... I hadn't thought of that. (Silly me.)
However, all of the notes in the first two bars are in the same octave so should be quite easy to play. And those that aren't follow the same pattern as the first two bars.
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Ah the Octave. Where does an octave start? And why does it have 12 notes in it?
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I didn't recognize the music and have never seen the score. Something like this? Bassoon is 'fagott' in Scandinavia, too.
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Yup, that's exactly what it looks like. (The crotchets are staccato, though you couldn't have guessed that as I didn't put it in my "notation".)
Now all you need is the parts for 2nd violin, viola, 'cello, horns in B, fagotts, oboes and a flute...
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.. and then the rest of the orchestra - der Kontrabass - und so weiter.
Well, I used sing, 'Die schöne Müllerin', 'Die Winterreise' and Schumann's 'Dichterliebe'..
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>.. and then the rest of the orchestra - der Kontrabass - und so weiter.
I guess by "Violoncello e Contrabasso" for the 'cello line it means that the double bass plays the same as the 'cello, just an octave lower? (I don't speak a word of German, lamentably.)
In fact Schubert's Symphony 5 consists soley of the instruments I mentioned -- flute, 2 oboes, 2 bassoons, 2 horns and strings. The orchestra is so small because it was apparently written for a small group of amateurs. It's funny to think that the pieces that we hold so sacred today were shaped largely by what was available to the composer at the time.
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This is probably off-topic... When I entered college I had a song teacher who introduced me to Schubert and his wonderful world of music, and brought me treasures I never knew existed. I'd love to hear Ian Bostridge and our own Leif Ove Andsnes in a live performance of the 'Winterreise'. I suppose that they have done it in Wigmore Hall (?)
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The French composer Olivier Messian is the one I remember to have included birdsong in his music. I don't know whether he used to listen to the birds along the rail tracks, but Karlheinz Stockhausen probably did. He, though, omitted the birds and included the trains. :-/
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Benjamin Britten's "Spring Symphony" has the soloists imitate birdsong in the second movement.
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