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Now Cantors add their weight  [message #27890] Sun, 05 February 2006 09:45 Go to next message
timmy

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Oddly relevant when one sees the dross the Phelps creates, the great association of clerics, the Keshet Rabbis, whose site I gave some small assistance to when it was launched, have formed a sub-site of Cantors.

Now I am not hugely familair with pecking orders of Jewish clerics, but I understand a Cantor is a junior rank and is often on his or her route to becoming a Rabbi.

The thing, therefore, that is very pleasing is that a junior cleric is likely to be a younger cleric. This means that support is growing for young GLBT Jews globally.

The lists of Rabbis and Cantors who are available to help and counsel worldwide is growing regularly. It is by no means a majority of that formal grouping of clergy, but it is public and is significant. Also of note is that these people are not necessarily gay themselevs. I suspect the overwhelming majority are simply good and supportive people who are doing their job - caring for those in need of help - well and properly.

http://www.keshetrabbis.org/KeshetCantors.html It is a list. Nonethless I commend it to you.

Brian, your post about those great people in power who should be doing something... Here is a list of those who are great in their communities and are reaching beyond the boundaries to do something.



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Re: Now Cantors add their weight  [message #27891 is a reply to message #27890] Sun, 05 February 2006 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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After such a glowing recommendation it may be thought churlish of me to quibble; my only purpose is to clarify a technical term. In the synagogue ritual the Cantor leads the services with his melodic voice. He often also functions as a teacher and assists the rabbi with pastoral duties such as visitng the sick and comforting the bereaved. Only in this sense is he (or she) a junior cleric. The vast majority of cantors do not want to become rabbis; alternatively, many rabbis can and do also function as cantors (if their voice permits).

Someone once described the difference between the rabbi and the cantor in this semi-humourous manner: it is the task of the rabbi to represent the word of God to the people and it is the task of the cantor to represent the word of the people to God.

Timmy, there must be some online organization among the various Christian denominations that are parallel or similar to Keshet-Rabbis. If anyone knows of them perhaps they can give them a bit of publicity here: you never know who might find the information useful.



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Re: Now Cantors add their weight  [message #27892 is a reply to message #27891] Sun, 05 February 2006 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are many organizations who's intent is to aid the GLBT community.

I have a huge list on one of my websites and offered it once to Tim....

It was rejected....



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Re: Now Cantors add their weight  [message #27893 is a reply to message #27892] Sun, 05 February 2006 11:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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It was not rejected. I simply had no time to accept it.

I am majoring on those who offer pastoral care at present



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Re: Now Cantors add their weight  [message #27895 is a reply to message #27893] Sun, 05 February 2006 15:57 Go to previous message
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As long as the church or organization is gay friendly they offer pastoral care......

Or for those not in need of "care" they can get worthy advice.



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