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Music  [message #28890] Fri, 03 March 2006 17:51 Go to next message
davethegnome is currently offline  davethegnome

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I imagine this thread has been done, but I haven't seen it done in a while and I was wondering what kinds of music people here tend to listen too.

I listen to basically everything. I worked at a skating rink for a while which, over time, allowed me to tolerate most everything. At the moment I am particularly jazzed over early blues and american folk music. I'm also particularly fond of pre and post punk as well as various stuff that is considered "indie".

Some examples of the above would be,
Phil Ochs
Woody Guthrie
Blind Willie Mctell
Robert Johnson
Television
The Stranglers
Husker Du
Joy Division
Ladytron
The Flaming Lips
The Magnetic Fields

In other words, I'm looking to expand my musical horizons and I trust the opinions of people on this board, so...



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
Re: Music  [message #28893 is a reply to message #28890] Fri, 03 March 2006 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have wide tastes, ranging from Mozart (try it, trust me) to Meatloaf, with helpings of Dr Hook along the way.



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Re: Music  [message #28895 is a reply to message #28893] Fri, 03 March 2006 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I like Mel Torme (sp), Tony Bennet, The Temptations, Marvin Gaye, Nat King Cole, Billie holliday.....

But my tastes are probably somehow going to scald someone or others delicate sensibilities here so I may be wrong......



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Re: Music  [message #28896 is a reply to message #28890] Fri, 03 March 2006 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have no idea whether my taste in music is shared by anyone else in the world. I listen to practically no "pop" music, and even exalted composers such as Beethoven don't necessarily do anything for me. But sometimes I will listen to a supposedly mediocre piece of music by a little-known composer, and love it.

What I value is:

- interesting (though not overly discordant) harmonies, and even occasionally quite conventional ones - but AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT REPETITIVE (I loathe Pachelbel's Canon)

- pleasant melodies, but as far as I'm concerned to a certain extent the melody is only there to support the harmony (any music scholars who can comment on whether anyone else holds that opinion?)

- interesting use of sound, instruments, percussion, sound effects and so on, especially where they create an atmosphere (akin to good film-style sound design)

- I much prefer piano, strings and orchestra to guitar (except some acoustic guitar)

- I'm fairly indifferent to singing, except in choral music, musicals, and some outstanding exceptions

I generally find that I can find at least some of the above within the following genres:

- symphonic music
- choral music in the SATB (or rather, TATB) tradition
- The Beatles (esp. their later stuff)
- other rock groups (both older and more recent), though I don't necessarily like all of their work; and occasionally instrumental rock extending towards "new age"
- musicals (sometimes)
- film music

I will sometimes enjoy exceptional pieces of music of other genres provided that they include at least a couple of the above requirements.

Based on that description (and I'm aware, with the exception of the Beatles, Beethoven and Pachelbel, I didn't name any particular composer or group) can anyone give me any recommendations?

David

P.S. Wagner sucks. (I know that's an off-topic troll, but I felt like putting it in anyway.)
Re: Music  [message #28897 is a reply to message #28895] Fri, 03 March 2006 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marc, please stop being combative. That post had one line too many. It was fine until the one where you deployed the "All are against me" line.

Please play nice. It spoils it for all, you included otherwise.



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Re: Music  [message #28898 is a reply to message #28895] Fri, 03 March 2006 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Who could not like Billie Holliday though ? I must admit that I started listening to Billie Holliday because Nina Simone did a remake of Strange Fruit and I couldn't stop listening to that song and then I found out it was a Billie Holliday song.



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
Re: Music  [message #28899 is a reply to message #28896] Fri, 03 March 2006 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You where one of the people I had in mind when I posted my original post and I was wondering what some random recomendations would be ?
If you like guitar music, although it has vocals, have you come across Nick Drake ? What about Emmet Ray ?



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
Re: Music  [message #28900 is a reply to message #28896] Fri, 03 March 2006 18:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wagner is..... Wagner.

How about baroque music? It seems to have so much more to it that the so called "Classical" composers.

I am assured that death metal contains interesting music. I have yet to hear it above the noise of vomiting



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Re: Music  [message #28901 is a reply to message #28897] Fri, 03 March 2006 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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First.... I never play...

Second.... I only post how I feel....



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Re: Music  [message #28902 is a reply to message #28900] Fri, 03 March 2006 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Baroque is good, often. J.S. Bach is probably the greatest composer ever to have lived.

I don't think I've ever listened to Death Metal. I ought to, at least so I can know I'm not missing out on anything. It's electric guitar-based, though, hmm?

David
Re: Music  [message #28903 is a reply to message #28899] Fri, 03 March 2006 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>Nick Drake ? What about Emmet Ray

I'm afraid I haven't even heard of them. Smile I'll have a look to see if I can find them and report back. Thanks.
Re: Music  [message #28904 is a reply to message #28903] Fri, 03 March 2006 19:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Er, are you sure Emmet Ray isn't a fictional character?
Re: Music  [message #28905 is a reply to message #28893] Fri, 03 March 2006 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dr Hook ? I think if I remember correctly my dad saw Dr Hook and the Medicine Show and was thrown up on by one of the members of the band. Apparently they where soused.

In reply to Mozart, I must say that I don't think I'm too big of a fan. He comes out of the Baroch era right ? If so, generally not a fan but I'll give 'im a closer listening just to be sure. Perhaps I'm being jumping the gun on discounting an entire era. I must also mention that I'm extremely bad with names and that is the reason why I am not positive as to my dislike.



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
Re: Music  [message #28906 is a reply to message #28904] Fri, 03 March 2006 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh man, I feel a bit sill now. I bet he is. I saw a movie which I thought was true and about him, but I imagine you are correct in that he is most likeley fictional. I wonder who did the soundtrack to that movie though because the guitar playing was quite something.
Hah

Sorry 'bout that.



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
Re: Music  [message #28907 is a reply to message #28906] Fri, 03 March 2006 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I meant to say "silly" but I must also mention that I am disappointed. Man, my mom had sold the movie as true to me and I didn't even think to question that. Man I'm embarrassed.



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
Re: Music  [message #28908 is a reply to message #28907] Fri, 03 March 2006 20:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't worry -- search for his name and you'll find that a lot of people are in exactly the same boat.

I haven't seen the film (Sweet and Lowdown, 1999, Woody Allen) but it seems to have an awful lot of music credits. Presumably it must have drawn on a lot of artists' best work, which would explain why it could be so consistently good.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0158371/fullcredits

Incidentally, I have no idea if this film pretended to be "based on a true story" but in my experience if film-makers try and market a film as such, it usually means it's a complete fabrication and you should run a mile. E.g. The Blair Witch Project (1999), Sleepers (1996), Fargo (1996). If it's real, people will know it was based on fact and there's no need to explicitly state it.
Re: Music  [message #28909 is a reply to message #28902] Fri, 03 March 2006 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gifted musicians like David Munrow demonstrated how early music could be played on period instruments, revealing melodic, harmonic, tonal and rythmic details which are completely lost when played the "romantic" way, like some of the bloated performances of Handel's Messiah.

J.S.Bach is timeless, and when Angela Hewitt plays the Goldberg variations on a modern grand piano the music sounds absolutely right. While most of his prominent colleagues were partying all over Europe, Bach stayed all his life in Germany, writing pieces which are still "templates" for students of classical music. One of my kids loves jazz and enjoys listening to Bach as if he were a jazz composer.

In the home where I grew up there was no classical music around. Classical music on the medium wave radio was "noise" and was switched off. At college it was "small" music from the romantic period that took hold of me, songs and chamber music by Schubert and Schumann. Schubert is known for his "schubertiads", with lot of music and even more to drink, but his music reveals a tenderness which is very moving, and sometimes, like in "Die Winterreise", has a layer of darkness and despair. Deeej, you made me listen again to Schubert's 5th symphony, and its two first movements are like beautiful songs of love.
Re: Music  [message #28912 is a reply to message #28902] Fri, 03 March 2006 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Heavily distorted (overdriven?) el;ectric guitar and screaming vocals. Very fast base drum beat quite often. Not to my taste, but it fills my house between university terms



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Re: Music  [message #28913 is a reply to message #28912] Sat, 04 March 2006 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and gratuitous use of guitar arpeggios



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
Re: Music  [message #28914 is a reply to message #28908] Sat, 04 March 2006 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, that makes me feel a bit less embarrassed I suppose. It really was quite a fun film to watch.



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
I think that my tastes are pretty eclectic ...  [message #28918 is a reply to message #28890] Sat, 04 March 2006 02:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... but, on the whole, I tend to listen to music as an accompaniment to other activities rather than as an end in itself.

For this reason I have never been particularly hooked on classical music, though I enjoy most of the popular classics, especially the lighter works of composers such as Tchaikovsky, Prokofief and Sibelius; the latter's 'Karelia Suite' has always been a particular favourite of mine.

I have a fair collection of vinyl, focussing especially upon early rock'n'roll (say 1954 to 1959), early Motown (up to 1970) and other soul from that period, especially from Atlantic and its associated labels. A fair proportion of these records were bought 'after the event', when I developed a real interest in the genre, and a lot are US imports.

Tapes and CDs cover a very wide range, but I have a good spread of British Folk Music - though I'm less keen on the unaccompanied tradition. I like my folk to be melodic and lively! Of the nine albums currently stacked by my computer, three are light classical, one is soundtrack music from the 'Inspector Morse' TV series, one is a compilation of Northumbrian Folk Songs, and four are pop - a Cat Stevens compilation, a compilation of No. 1 hits of the Seventies, the Rolling Stones' 'Forty Licks' album and a Presley compilation of tracks recorded at Sam Phillips' Sun label in 1954 and 1955. That's a reasonable cross-section of what I play - thought I do have some much more modern stuff.

And before anyone asks: Yes, I do like Scottish bagpipes, though preferably from a distance! I'm ashamed to confess that I actually prefer the mellower and more versatile Northumbrian pipes, in which the bag is inflated by bellows held under the arm rather than by air from the mouth.



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A little bit of info on the movie and the soundtrack  [message #28927 is a reply to message #28914] Sat, 04 March 2006 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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About the movie:
"The film is a mock documentary about Emmet Ray, a fictional jazz guitarist of the 1930s. Played by Sean Penn, Emmet is an amazingly gifted musician. In fact, he is considered to be the "second" best guitarist in the world (The first being Django Reinhardt). Emmet is cocky and abusive with a self-destructive streak a mile wide. He is also in absolute awe of Django's playing, unable to hear the Gypsy master's recordings without coming to tears."

Django Reinhardt was a real person and some of his songs are the actual recordings.

About the soundtrack:
"Emmet Ray's musical alter ego is none other than Howard Alden, one of the true virtuosi of jazz guitar today. It is Howard we hear when Sean Penn is pretending to play onscreen (about that more later) and his playing is superb. A standout tune from this film is I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles, which is given an elegantly simple and heartfelt reading by Howard. The guitar playing is one of the main characters in this film in my opinion, and this is perfect casting.

You will also hear the master himself. Django's recorded performances are an important part of the soundtrack, especially the opening credits which feature When Day Is Done.

I get the sense that Howard played conservatively on this film, as I've heard him live and there's no comparison. But that doesn't belittle what he's done on the soundtrack. The sensitivity and melodicism that has always been an Alden trademark is apparent, and hearing his studio-recorded acoustic sound in a big movie theater was remarkable. If you see this film in a theater for one reason, this would be it."

Howard Alden's web site:
http://www.howardalden.com/

Complete Music Credits:

When Day is Done (1926)
Written by Buddy G. DeSylva and Robert Katscher
Performed by Django Reinhardt
Courtesy of Blue Note Records, a Division of Capitol Records, Inc.
Under license from EMI Capitol Music Special Markets

Clarinet Marmalade (1918)
Written by Larry Shields and H.W. Ragas
Performed by Ted Lewis' Orchestra
Courtesy of Columbia Records
By arrangement with Sony Music Licensing

Speak To Me of Love (Parlez-Moi d'Amour)
Written by Jean Lenoir (I) and Bruce Sievier
Performed by Howard Alden


Mystery Pacific
Written by Django Reinhardt and Stéphane Grappelli
Performed by Howard Alden, Bucky Pizzarelli and Kelly Friesen

Limehouse Blues (1922)
Written by Douglas Furber and Philip Braham
Arranged by Dick Hyman
Performed by Howard Alden, Bucky Pizzarelli and Kelly Friesen

It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing)
Written by Irving Mills and Duke Ellington
Performed by Howard Alden, Kelly Friesen, Joel Helleny, Dick Hyman, Ken Peplowski, Ted Sommer and Byron Stripling


Out of Nowhere (1931)
Written by Edward Heyman and Johnny Green
Performed by Dick Hyman


I'll See You in My Dreams (1924)
Written by Gus Kahn and Isham Jones
Performed by Howard Alden, Bucky Pizzarelli and Kelly Friesen

Sweet Georgia Brown (1925)
Written by Ben Bernie, Kenneth Casey and Maceo Pinkard
Performed by Howard Alden, James Chirrilo, Kelly Friesen, Ken Peplowski, Bucky Pizzarelli and Ted Sommer

Avalon (1920)
Written by Buddy G. DeSylva, Al Jolson and Vincent Rose
Performed by Django Reinhardt
Courtesy of Blue Note Records, a Division of Capitol Records, Inc.
Under license from EMI Capitol Music Special Markets

After You've Gone (1918)
Written by Henry Creamer and Turner Layton
Performed by Joe Venuti and Eddie Lang
Courtesy of MCA Records
Under license from Universal Music Special Markets

I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles (1919)
Written by James Brockman, Nat Vincent (as Nathaniel Hawthorne Vincent), James Kendis and John W. Kellette
Arranged by Howard Alden and Dick Hyman
Performed by Howard Alden

Shine
Written by Cecil Mack, Lew Brown (I) and Ford Dabney
Performed by Howard Alden, Bucky Pizzarelli, Kelly Friesen, Ken Peplowski and Ted Sommer


There'll Be Some Changes Made
Written by Billy Higgins and W. Benton Overstreet
Arranged by Dick Hyman
Performed by Howard Alden, Bucky Pizzarelli, Kelly Friesen, Ken Peplowski and Ted Sommer

Viper Mad
Written by Clarence Williams and Sidney Bechet
Performed by Sidney Bechet and Noble Sissle's Swingsters
Courtesy of Louisiana Red Hot Records/Robert Parker's Jazz Classics in Stereo

Indiana (Back Home Again In) (1917)
Written by Ballard MacDonald and James F. Hanley
Performed by Red Nichols
Courtesy of MCA Records
Under license from Universal Special Markets

Aloha Oe (1908)
Written by Queen Liliuokalani
Performed by Dick Monday

Abide with Me
Written by Henry F. Lyte and William H. Monk
Performed by Mary Stout

12th Street Rag (1919)
Written by Euday L. Bowman
Arranged by Howard Alden
Performed by Howard Alden


The Peanut Vendor
Written by Moïse Simons, L. Wolfe Gilbert and Marion Sunshine
Performed by Howard Alden, Bucky Pizzarelli, Kelly Friesen, Ken Peplowski and Ted Sommer

All of Me
Written by Gerald Marks and Seymour Simons
Performed by Carol Woods (I), Howard Alden, Bucky Pizzarelli, Kelly Friesen, Ken Peplowski and Ted Sommer

Caravan
Written by Duke Ellington and Juan Tizol
Performed by Danny Berigen and His Orchestra
Courtesy of RCA Records Label of BMG Entertainment

Old Fashioned Love
Written by James P. Johnson (I) and Cecil Mack
Performed by Howard Alden, Kelly Friesen, Joel Helleny, Dick Hyman, Ken Peplowski, Ted Sommer and Byron Stripling

Just A Gigolo (1929)
Written by Leonello Casucci, Irving Caesar and Julius Brammer
Performed by Howard Alden, Bucky Pizzarelli, Kelly Friesen, Ken Peplowski and Ted Sommer


Nevertheless (I'm in Love with You) (1931)
Written by Bert Kalmar and Harry Ruby
Performed by Ambrose and His Orchestra
Courtesy of EMI Records Ltd.


3:00 AM Blues (1999)
Written by Dick Hyman
Performed by Howard Alden, Kelly Friesen, Joel Helleny, Dick Hyman, Ken Peplowski, Ted Sommer and Byron Stripling

Liebestraum No. 3
Written by Franz Liszt
Performed by Django Reinhardt
Courtesy of Blue Note Records, a Division of Capitol Records, Inc.
Under license from EMI Capitol Music Special Markets

Since My Best Girl Turned Me Down
Written Ray Lodwig and Howdy Quicksell
Performed by Bix Beiderbecke
Courtesy of Columbia Records
By arrangement with Sony Music Licensing

Wrap Your Trouble in Dreams (And Dream Your Troubles Away)
Written by Ted Koehler, Billy Moll and Harry Barris
Performed by Howard Alden, Bucky Pizzarelli and Kelly Friesen

Hot Lips
Written by Henry Busse, Henry Lange and Lou Davis
Performed by Henry Busse and His Orchestra
Courtesy of MCA Records
Under license from Universal Music Special Markets

You Were Meant for Me (1929)
Written by Arthur Freed and Nacio Herb Brown

Unfaithful Woman (1999)
Written by Dick Hyman
Performed by Howard Alden, Bucky Pizzarelli, Kelly Friesen, Ken Peplowski and Ted Sommer

Lulu's Back in Town (1935)
Written by Harry Warren and Al Dubin
Performed by Dick Hyman, Kelly Friesen and Ted Sommer

Sweet Sue, Just You (1928)
Written by Will J. Harris and Victor Young
Performed by Howard Alden



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Re: Music  [message #28929 is a reply to message #28905] Sat, 04 March 2006 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, I Bach's Concerto in G Minor came on the radio last night and that was pretty cool so I hereby revoke my ignorant dislike of the baroque.



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
Re: Rave Moosak  [message #28931 is a reply to message #28918] Sat, 04 March 2006 20:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yep, that's what I tend to listen to.

I admit it, i'm a raver. :-[

I also DJ house music and DnB/Breaks all of the above.



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Re: Music  [message #28935 is a reply to message #28905] Sat, 04 March 2006 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mozart is "perfect" which can make him boring. Hi smusic has a very odd effect: It accelerates the mathematical skills in the brain for a short period. I think he is Classical, not baroque, but I could always be wrong.



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Re: Music  [message #28936 is a reply to message #28935] Sun, 05 March 2006 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Timmy:
>Mozart is "perfect" which can make him boring.
Agreed. Or rather, it is very technically adept, but somewhat "old hat" to people who have heard the more experimental and unpredictable music of the 20th century.

>Hi smusic has a very odd effect: It accelerates the mathematical skills in the brain for a short period.

I know this is often said, but are there any "proper" (trustable) studies that show this? I personally find music playing in the background very distracting -- if I listen to it, my concentration goes down very rapidly. If I do manage to ignore it, then what's the point in having it playing at all?

Even if it's true, I don't like the idea very much; perhaps I'm a snob, but I dislike the modern notion that music (especially classical music) is just "background" for when you are doing something else. (Though I agree this doesn't necessarily apply for film music and other types of music designed specifically to accompany other media.)

>I think he is Classical, not baroque, but I could always be wrong.

Definitely classical. Mozart lived 1756-1791; the Classical period was 1730-1820. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_classical_music)

David
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What music do I like listening to regularly? OK. Here goes:

"Classical" - Bruckner, Elgar, Nielssen and Britten in particular;
"Vocal" - Verdi, Puccini, Halevi, Wagner (sorry Deeej) and, again, Britten;
"Choral" - Oliver Kentish and (yet again) Britten;
"Pop" - Gilbert Bécaud, Beatles, anything melodious and well performed.

Music that I rarely listen to: Bach, Baroque music and chamber music (music written for a small number of listeners Wink )

Thanks for starting this thread. I have had a very difficult ten days trying to do almost the impossible, which involved moving a large number of people from one venue to another (which didn't even yet exist!) in a very short time. Mission accomplished Smile). Now I can relax again among friends (you lot) and listen to music. Strangely, as I write this I am listening to the first movement of Shostakovich's 7th Symphony. Incredible what a metamorphosis he manages to make of a very simple melody - from happy and simple to something truly meancing and frightening.

Lastly, let me add (being fully prepared to be shot down) that history will decide that the most significant work of serious music written in the 20th century was Britten's "War Requiem". (Britten features in our Gallery of Famous Gays.)

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Re: Music  [message #28947 is a reply to message #28890] Sun, 05 March 2006 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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I used to always have some kind of music playing in the background when I was doing anything. I stopped doing that a few years ago - partly because I now like to actually listen to music when I do play it, and partly because as I got deafer I got more worried about not hearing things (phones, oven timers, distressed cats, doorbells, etc...) because of background music. And I think that has had an effect on what I listen to.

Anyway, current list is something like:

Telemann, Purcell, Mozart, Scarlatti, assorted chamber music, and if I'm feeling suicidal occasional Bruckner.

Hippie music - Jeffersons, Grateful Dead, Love,etc etc and if I'm feeling suicidal occasional Velvet Underground.

Strange men: Lou Reed, Donovan, Arlo Guthrie, Loudon Wainright III, occasional Rufus Wainright.

British '70s stuff that no-one will have heard of - Global Village Trucking Company, Man, Brinsley Schwartz, The Neutrons, Hawkwind, Otway & Barratt, Nick Lowe ... reflecting the period I was most actively involved in festivals and the gigging band scene.

Eccentric stuff like Commander Cody, Little Feat,a bit of Jimmy Buffet.

But I have odd albums and odd tracks from a much wider range - female vocalists like Dusty Springfield (how gay can I get), bits of Bob Marley, Misty in Roots, - just about anything pre 1985. I never really got into any flavour of rap house, etc - my loss, I'm sure: but once I got into working 80-100 hours a week, new musical experiences kinda went by the wayside for a long time.



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icon6.gif Hmmmmm, I'm almost afraid to say  [message #28953 is a reply to message #28890] Sun, 05 March 2006 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cause you guys are all naming such big important stuff, but.......

My 3 all time favorite songs that stop me dead in my tracks when they come on the radio are:
*Desperado - Linda Ronstadt
*Leather&Lace - Stevie Nicks&Don Henley
*Turn Around, Bright Eyes - Bonnie Tyler

If you've never given country a try, find:
Keith Urban
Rascal Flatts
Joe Nichols
Martina McBride
Emmylou Harris

Or, pop music:
Coldplay
GooGoo Dolls
John Mayer
Eve 6

I get as serious as Josh Groban

and anything by Fleetwood Mac, Elton John or John Denver

Happy Music
Very Happy Jamie



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Re: Music  [message #28975 is a reply to message #28945] Mon, 06 March 2006 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No problem, congrats on your achievement of the impossible. I shall surely add some of the names you tossed up to my list of "music to try and listen too at some point in the future". Thanks



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
Re: Hmmmmm, I'm almost afraid to say  [message #28977 is a reply to message #28953] Mon, 06 March 2006 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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and on the country side "She thinks my tractors sexy" ;-D



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Re: Music  [message #28979 is a reply to message #28945] Mon, 06 March 2006 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kupuna is currently offline  kupuna

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Oliver Kentish - I like his webpage
I think I want to buy some of his cd's!
Re: Music  [message #29000 is a reply to message #28890] Tue, 07 March 2006 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Most people think I've got very strange taste in music. I listen to everything from trance and (funky) house music through comercial dance music to pop cheese. Then there's the odd pop-rock band and a lot of old 70s and 80s stuff.

But my real love is flute bands, I could listen to a fife and drum band all day or a full concert flute band. I'm lucky enough to have 2 of the best bands in Northern Ireland in my home town so I get to listen to them all the time Smile
Here's a piece by each of them:

www.surrealkid.com/music/churchill-highland_cathedral.mp3
www.surrealkid.com/music/william-king.mp3

First one is Highland Cathedral which sounds amazing when the hall they're in is empty and it's echoing around a big empty building, the second one is an an old Irish tune with 2 of the best piccolo players in the country.



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Re: Hmmmmm, I'm almost afraid to say  [message #29024 is a reply to message #28953] Tue, 07 March 2006 18:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
davethegnome is currently offline  davethegnome

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You gotta love, "Turn Around, Bright Eyes". It never fails to force me into song when I hear it.



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
The name  [message #29025 is a reply to message #29024] Tue, 07 March 2006 18:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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Is it also called "Total Eclipse of the Heart"?
Re: The name  [message #29045 is a reply to message #29025] Tue, 07 March 2006 23:16 Go to previous message
davethegnome is currently offline  davethegnome

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I do believe that that is the name that it normally goes by yes.



It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
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