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I have been studying geometry and congruence.
At school we had to go to great trouble to prove that triangles, for example, were congruent. It wasn't hard, but it had some things you had to go through.
My thinking has applied congruency to sex.
The vagina is very much more slot shaped than a circle. Its entrance is a slit and the cross section is by no means circular.
The penis has an approximately circular cross section
The penis and the vagina are not congruent. They do fit one inside the other, but it is not a good match. Thus the design, while adequate for reproduction, seems not to be congruent enough for pleasure.
The anus is approximately circular in cross section, whatever the gender of the owner. It is therefore congruent with the penis and seems well designed for pleasure.
The conclusion is that a penis is designed to fit into an anus, not a vagina. This is the most natural insertion because there are no gaps. Pornographic pictures assure me that the vagina/penis combination has gaps while the anus/penis combination does not.
This confirms that anal sex is better designed than vaginal sex.
There is a side issue of the mouth. This is a red herring. The mouth is designed to talk about sex (oral) and the ear designed to hear about sex (aural). There is a congruence of sound here, so the mouth is limited to engaging its "partner in congruency", though pleasure may be found in using it on any other relevant sex organ. This is obviously a true perversion!
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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Well, I see observations but no proof.
Come on..... Show us what you are getting at here......::-)
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Now I can't actually "show" you. I'm afraid you will either have to look for the proofs or use your imagination 
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Timmy:
>The vagina is very much more slot shaped than a circle.
>The penis has an approximately circular cross section
>The anus is approximately circular in cross section
>The conclusion is that a penis is designed to fit into an anus, not a vagina.
And I can think of lots of things with a circular cross-section.
A petrol tank has a small circular hole.
A clarinet has a small circular hole.
A lavatory has a small circular hole.
A shotgun has a small circular hole.
A black hole is a small circular hole.
A rabbit lives in a small circular hole.
Presumably these were all designed for sexual intercourse?
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timmy
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I see where your mind is going. None of these are animate, nor are they human. So no, I regret your mind is erring.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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I don't think so......
I've known many humans that just lie there as inanimate as a stone.....
In those cases I would have prefered a rabbit hole........
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marc
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I would rather not imagine one of those awful things females use for sexating.
Oh gawd...... I just got a mental image of one...... I'll never again be able to look an oyster in the eye......
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marc
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YUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!
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Er-um...
Not animate and not human?
Well, if that's the requirement then I can just as easily make up my own requirement that sticking your thing in it will have a functional purpose greater than just pleasure. Such as procreation. And even if pleasure is the only factor we are considering, a woman's vagina and the associated paraphernalia will bring a woman more pleasure (on the whole, so I am told) than her anus.
For that matter -- and this is the main point I was making; of course I know it's not a good idea to stick your penis in a rabbit hole, I was just making fun of your logic -- I can just as easily counter your argument that the anus is roughly the right size and shape for the penis with the counter-argument that it is not rugged enough for sex, and hence tears easily and spreads disease. Poof! The arguments cancel each other out.
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OI!! who are you calling a poof, Deeej?
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I'm not sure if your post is in jest or not, Jedediah, but just to clear things up: the word poof is used here in its original meaning, as an exclamation. Like "Tada!" or "Voila!"
In a similar way, I would not abstain from using the word "fag" if I were referring to the fagging system in a British school. I won't use it in any derogatory sense (even if in a playful tone) as I know some people find it offensive. In any case, that use is American and I'm British, so it's not in my vocabulary anyway.
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As for where the word came from, I believe "poof" refers to the sound a magician makes when he disappears (in a puff of smoke). So it's associated with a revelation, a sudden change, especially one where something is demolished in a stroke. So it works well for arguments and logic: if they exactly counter each other, then suddenly you end up with nothing.
I was sort of hoping that would happen, anyway.
It's a pity these words get hijacked. When I was 8 or 9 I was fond of reading Victorian novels, and I was incensed to discover that other people were taking good, old-fashioned E. Nesbit-type words such as "gay" in vain. So in all my essays I would make sure to say how gay I was feeling that day. I remember once one of my teachers was reading out one of my essays to the rest of the class, and he had to stop and explain to everyone that when I said "The sun was shining, the sky a shimmering blue. Oh, I felt so gay to be alive!", or some such nonsense, I meant it in the old-fashioned sense, and would everybody please stop rolling on the floor and let him finish?
David
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timmy
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There are many millions of men and women worldwide who will tell you that the anus is perfectly rugged enough. And many women will tell you that the experience different and amazing orgasms through anal sex. This is the case even if they do not (and many do not) experience orgasm through vaginal sex.
So we return to being "poof free!" (in magician's terminology)
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I'm faulting your logic, not criticising the people who choose to have anal sex.
You said that the penis is evidently designed for anal sex, because its shape is more suited to the anus. Not that it shouldn't, or can't, be used for vaginal sex.
I am saying that the penis is evidently designed for the vagina, because the vagina's make-up is more suited to sex than the anus. Not that it shouldn't, or can't, be used for anal sex.
Almost opposites, with at least equivalent weight of argument on either side. Definitely a poof as I see it.
And I can back mine up with statistics: the fact is, the anus does spread diseases such as AIDS more than the vagina. And that is because it is less rugged -- more prone to tearing. So, if anything, that pushes the scales towards my side. Whereas I think you'll have difficulty proving that God, or evolution, has designed man to have anal sex when heterosexual couples already have a perfectly good alternative. (Not that I have any objections to you trying -- a couple of hypotheses do present themselves; though while I'm sure we'd like them to be true, I don't think they really work from an evolutionary point of view.)
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marc
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I think you realy need to go out and achieve for yourself a good screw.....
Otherwise don't knock what you realy don't know about.....
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>I think you realy need to go out and achieve for yourself a good screw.....
You may well be right.
>Otherwise don't knock what you realy don't know about.....
It is knocking anal sex to state that "the anus does spread diseases such as AIDS more than the vagina"? If it were untrue, yes, that would be knocking it -- though in an easily disproveable way. If -- as it is -- true, it would not. I did say that I was trying to keep this to a mathematical/statistical discussion. I was in fact simply countering Timmy's original hypothesis with an equally valid opposing view -- if you read my posts again, you will see that I left my own opinion out of it, as I explicitly pointed out.
If someone said to me, "homosexuality is wrong because sex between men is not natural" then I could see several fallacies there, and it would be easy to argue the case. But if they said, "homosexual men are more likely to get AIDS, because they are more likely to practice anal sex", then I couldn't counter it, because it is true. All we can do in that case is say, "does it matter?" And in most cases it doesn't, provided people take precautions and are aware of the risks.
I'm the first to admit I've been taking this a bit too seriously, as I assume Timmy's original post was meant humourously. But please, Marc, don't tell me that I'm knocking anal sex. I am not.
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The fact is that both the anus and vagina are both delicate organs, and although there seems to be some evidence that one can contract HIV “pitching” while engaged in anal sex it is more likely to acquire HIV through receiving the “pitch”, whether vaginal or anal. It all seems to depend on the size of the penis and the ability of the orifice to receive, and even then there tends to be microscopic tearing happening within either. I would venture to say this is dependant on many different factors.
My point being it is the penis though which HIV is most commonly transmitted. There are only two ways I know of for one to contract HIV through the penis. The most common would be if the penis outer skin is unhealthy for any myriad of reasons, the other would be though the suction of a combination of fluids back into the urethra. It seems that during orgasm a vacuum can occur within the urethra after orgasm sucking the fluid back in. With the penis also being in some ways rather delicate it seems that microscopic tearing can occur within the urethra through which the virus finds avenue. I’ll let you guys figure the mathematical probability of that, though I have heard it is at best a very rare occurrence.
Sorry to split hairs, and I don't really know how important it is to this discussion, it's just that I've been getting into the epidemiology of the spread of HIV lately, and it seems your statement that the anus is responsible for the spread of HIV is not very up to date, with the highest at risk group being hetero women of color. Now this may get a bit dicey here but the studies I’ve read say that women of color are less likely to have anal sex because of religious and cultural beliefs. LOL so it’s all the penis’s fault. Well, mostly.
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Thank you, anothervoice. I'll have to take your word for most of that!
At risk of opening up a can of worms, are women of African origin more likely to contract HIV because of biological or environmental factors? Is this in America, the West, or in Africa itself? If it's the latter, I assume that is because of the situation there, and nothing to do with their colour.
Can you provide any references? A statement like that is sorely in need of them. (As are most statements along those lines, simply because of the need for political correctness.)
David
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Welllllllll. I dont know about the fitting right and stuff. Personally I like the anal aproach, cause I aint never gonna try the Ewwwwwwww, other woman thingy (I cant even bring myself to say it).
ohhhhhhhh, and aint Deeej just so cute when hes doing the intellectually serious stuff. ;-D ;-D
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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David, I am going to have to look through a lot of stuff to qualify my statements. Most of what I have said can be validated with a bit of searching online, as a matter of fact I would encourage everyone that is sexually active to do extensive research for them selves because it is just that important, and I would never want any one to take cart blanc anything someone might says.
If it helps, I am involved with the Case Western Reserve Universities AIDS clinical trials unit community advisory board. I have to say here I really lucked out when I ended up at Case for my HIV medical care, my Doc. Is a professor of infectious disease at the universities med school and my roomy is also a doctor so I’ve had the good fortune (hehehe if that can be said when one has HIV) to be very well connected to up to date info.
The main thing I want to say here to all of you is please, please get informed, for your own well being! HIV is still relatively new and we are learning more ever day. HIV knows no bounds; your best protection is knowledge!
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Well, in my opinion, you're all a bunch of mathematical poofs ;-D
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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"ohhhhhhhh, and aint Deeej just so cute when hes doing the intellectually serious stuff."
Yessir, yessir he is 
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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cossie
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... just to see what happens!
But I really must take issue with Marc. Anyone who extols the advantages of sex with a rabbit hole needs ego reduction therapy - unless of course rabbits are unusually small in their neck of the woods! Furthermore, the activity is extremely dangerous if the rabbit is in occupation and objects to the intrusion!
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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I know Im not as knowlegdable as I should be, and being a virgin (ok dont laugh! You better not even think it Cossie) Im not at risk yet. We are lucky here. We have several doctors that come out and give talks on HIV and how to protect yourself against infection. They are from the best HIV clinic in the US. the are affiliated with Vanderbilt which has one of the primer HIV research facilities on HIV in the world. there was an article in our paper here, that said that 60% of the people being seen at the clinic are not from this state. They move here from other states and take up residence in order to get into the clinic. the schools around here are fortunate to have the doctors there come around and talk to us. I know some guys in school who think its silly, but they are gonna be the ones who will wind up being infected cause they didnt listen. Im gay, I know this stuff is dangerous, even tho they have meds, right now this virus still kills. You know us teens, were risk takers and think it cant possibly happen to me. well it scares me enough to be very careful. My heart cries for the ones who are infected, and I pray every night that they will find a cure for this. :'-(
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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timmy
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> And I can back mine up with statistics: the fact is, the anus does spread diseases such as AIDS more than the vagina. And that is because it is less rugged -- more prone to tearing. So, if anything, that pushes the scales towards my side. Whereas I think you'll have difficulty proving that God, or evolution, has designed man to have anal sex when heterosexual couples already have a perfectly good alternative. (Not that I have any objections to you trying -- a couple of hypotheses do present themselves; though while I'm sure we'd like them to be true, I don't think they really work from an evolutionary point of view.)
The anus does not assist in the spread of HIV because it is more prone to tearing. It is a semi-permeable membrane, or more particularly the rectal walls are, the anus is a ring of muscle. HIV infective agents pass through semi-permeable membranes and are absorbed into the new host body. And all mucous membrane has this characteristic. This includes the inside of the mouth.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Timmy:
>The anus does not assist in the spread of HIV because it is more prone to tearing.
Ho hum. Okay, Timmy, seems that the principal method of spreading disease is through the mucous membranes, and not anal tearing. I shall eat humble pie for a bit.
However, I still stand by my point that the anus is more prone to tearing -- and hence HIV-carrying secretions can be released by either party. Therefore both parties are at risk of disease from its design if they don't take proper precautions.
P.S. I have just had the most uncanny feeling of deja vu (literally -- not just a figure of speech). Have we discussed this subject before?
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timmy
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Don't worry about the humble pie. Almost everyone makes the same error. It takes research to find the real transmission mechanism.
Thinking harder the infective agents must be able to travel both ways through the membranes.
A vagina or rectum gets infected by instertion of fluids form an infected penis. And the penis gets infected by absorption of infective agents while insterted via, usually, the mucous membrance of the glans, or the inner foreskin, or the urethra. No injury is required. Note how few people have injured penises, vaginas, anal rings or rectal walls
Actually I am far less concerned about HIV, newsworthy and unpleasant as it is, than about hepatitis.
While we are lookikng at matters anal, even a minute piece of faecal matter from an infected person may pass one of the hepatitises to another person. A and B are curable, C tends not to be. All are unpleasant.
The message? Get innoculated if you are not immune to those one can innoculate for
http://iomfats.org/resources/health/sti/ may inform you
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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cossie
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... heard in the High Court of Justice before Mr. Justice McCossie.
Whereas the Plaintiff contends that the Respondent did knowingly use the word 'Poof' in contravention of Regulation 386 of the Prohibited Words Regulations 2004 (Statutory Instrument 2004 No. 4837), such use not being jocular or affectionate as permitted by Regulation 392A,
And whereas the Respondent contends that the word 'Poof' has reference to a puff of smoke, as in a magic trick, and is not therefore offensive.
This Court has heard evidence from three hundred and seventy-two magicians, all but one of whom have testified on oath that the word used in vanishing tricks should correctly be spelt 'Pouf'. The dissenter who, as you will recollect, suffered the disability of a limp wrist and a speech impediment, insisted that the correct spelling is 'Pouffe'.
Expert testimony was obtained from two hundred and forty-one contributors to the Oxford series of Dictionaries, and every one of these experts expressed (in depressing detail) the view that 'Poof' could have only one meaning, and that the word was a colloquial noun describing an effeminate man or a male homosexual. They further contended that the variant spellings 'Pouf' and 'Pouffe' had, and could only have, that same meaning, all of these being of 19th-century origin and being derived from the phrase 'puffed up'.
This Court, in the face of overwhelming evidence, is obliged to find for the Plaintiff, and I am deeply obliged to Mr. Snotspittle for bringing the matter to the attention of the authorities.
A severe punishment is clearly appropriate, and I will accordingly issue an Anti-Social Behaviour Order prohibiting the Respondent from being pedantic for a period of fourteen days. I further order that he be provided with one hundred exclamation marks and that he be required to use all of these in the course of correspondence during the aforementioned period.
Finally, I call upon the appropriate authorities to take steps to ensure that any magician who may henceforth use the word 'Poof' or any of its variants in place of the word 'Puff' shall be prosecuted with the full rigour of the law.
This Court will now adjourn for a single malt whisky!
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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Your Honour,
I would appreciate it if you could serve a writ immediately upon the owners of the following site, as they are blatantly and without reasonable excuse contravening Regulations 386, 486, 586 and Pentium M of the Prohibited Word Regulations 2004:
http://www.poofchairs.com/
In the meantime I would draw your attention to the venerable site known to many as "answers.com" and to still more as "that damn web site that nicks information from other sites". The reference page served by the moniker "http://www.answers.com/topic/poof" clearly states that the word "poof" may be used in the following circumstances:
>poof1 (pūf) pronunciation
>interj.
>Used to indicate a sudden vanishing: The magician waved a wand, and poof! >The birds disappeared!
And also, among others:
> as a term for an act of disappearance or appearance
>as a British English term for a large footstool (from the French word "pouf").
On that basis, I wish to lodge an appeal against the unduly harsh sentence pronounced upon my client. No sentence should require more than one exclamation mark. A sentence containing one hundred would be unreadable. In addition, such frivolous dispensation of the aforementioned punctuation mark will only contribute to the worldwide exclamation mark shortage. It is only a matter of time before we will have to resort to grafting apostophes to full stops, which will bite into the already overstretched stocks of the
National Apostrophe Conservation Service. Before long, there will be punctuational anarchy'.
Harry Camn, LT
Siege, Liege and Squeej, Solicitors, London.
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cossie
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Whilst I am entirely sympathetic to your viewpoint, it would appear that http://www.poofchairs.com is a nasty American site and thus beyond the reach of civilised law enforcement.
As regards http://www.answers.com, that disreputable site has featured in numerous cases before my Court, and based upon my previous rulings must be disregarded out of hand.
I am however prepared to concede that if you insist upon introducing a foreign and garlic-ridden language like French into this otherwise civilised exchange, then 'Pouf' or 'Pouffe' may be used to describe what was originally a soft-filled footstool, but is now plagiarised by rebellious colonials to include what is, to all intents and purposes, a garish bean-bag.
You may, of course, proceed to the Court of Appeal if you so wish, but I fully expect your client to be jailed for pedantry within the next fourteen days in any event. In view of the clever pun on the word 'sentence' I am prepared to reduce the second element of penalty to 75 exclamatiom marks; I would, however, caution your client to remember that the Court of Appeal has the power to increase, as well as reduce, the sentence imposed by the High Court - even to the extent of requiring your client to start 20% of his sentences with a preposition.
Incidentally, would the partners in your practice be the Theodosious Siege and Zedekiah Liege with whom I attended Eton? If so, I fear that your client's sentence may need to be increased because those two reprobates stole my pencil-sharpener. And shouldn't there be one more 'e' in 'Squeej'?
I remain,
Yours insincerely,
Sir John McCossie, J.
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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... I really admire the way he has refrained from pointing out that I wrote 'preposition' as the last word of the fifth paragraph of the previous post, when both he and I are very well aware that I meant to write 'conjunction'!
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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