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timmy
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So what was the right reply to the last one?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I was wondering the exact same thing.
It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
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pimple
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Hey Boss-
If you read the thread on "Google and other search..." you will have the the answer.
I guessed:
"Can you sing again? But this time without the music so I can hear your voice"
Deej said it was close enough that he told me the answer, and promptly came up with this one. There is a clue there if your interested.
Simon
Joy Peace and Tranquility
Joyceility
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>I guessed:
>"Can you sing again? But this time without the music so I can hear your voice"
>Deej said it was close enough that he told me the answer
Well, that was the closest I thought anyone was going to come. Or rather, that was the first time anyone had made a decent stab at it, so if it wasn't close enough then I would probably be stuck with it for ever!
The latest one is an extremely easy cipher (no, it's not simply a letter substitution; it's slightly more interesting than that). Simon got the first letter right, but he seems to have given up on the rest.
David
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Deeej
The forum died on me- I am still giving it some thought!
Simon
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Yeah, I tried to treat it as a simple letter substitution and the "xbbv" gave me ?aa? which is tricky. Best word I could come up with was Baak and I thought that that was probably waaaaaay too obscure.
It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
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Of course, it doesn't have to be ?aa? if the cipher changes from letter to letter...
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Naturally, the ?aa? came from when I thought it was a normal crytogram.
It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
~Phil Ochs "I Aint Marching Anymore"
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pimple
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Deeej
The more you explain, the less 'simple' it seems to become!
Simon
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I can only agree with Simon. (Wonders what we would have if Deeej had thought up the most difficult cipher he could.)
So far I have had little progress, but be assured, I shall persist in my attempts.
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I found, I found!
A man can be happy with any woman as long as he does not love her.
Oscar Wilde
cipher is substitution, +1 +2 +3... spaces included. Very clever to include spaces, I had tries simple (each letter +1) before, but that didn't work.
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- As excitement dies down, I wonder if I have spoiled all the fun for Simon. ... And no "edit" button either... Sorry if I did spoil your fun, Simon.
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Dqqkwgacukeubbh kg Mdhccq! K wmgst rlhr ie lacig so bprxmky bsrznhjhv gir.
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Iop, O exxoqe xv A njk qgovng xzhzc smiwcw tkudj-dnoe lr sf bsr... jf zcqa Bdefl wtslbqsys hd ug njk. 
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Ujdx cvcun nr xdkwkynpflf!
"Cta iao ayr, wsmbzn Uhlmkdq," bqo kbicw eth oxgc,
"Dri fwdb tnwg ysl wazmle xhvd dprdp;
Oct qxn uls ioehwxgubui egoct gg tkrp hfcg --
Lx jah ixzfd, wq xovt elk, rd uf gyxzm?
"Gm na ctaap," rnhwui Pcghfyl sgspnkk cy tvg iff,
"E ddasgg nz urqsf wczljx odb arbkq;
Hbb, yaj ixrl C'i ndrggfxqe adbp V wqmw hjjb,
Wia, N kw se nupye thy xezio."
"Fwd ldr dbu," nwfb tig ctaap, "mf X dwgndkkcc cgiswk,
Jxo lcj ysoy comvn orwy bvlyxybbao xtn;
Vcs zqx yayvnn m ppsb-lihaoqzumv ms hb dsq rdei --
Loyx xjdx oz crp espiff zjn rgau?"
"Pv wj lcjjy," nwfb tig wfml, kd us iyghe dfq gsgb qujsb,
"V zugl ugh kx mkpfx cmai ehdebv
Us pec utg sk aprc avbicvfm -- mme ukmqrpvp l ocm --
Ughlu mf ws yltu jah p tgnjga?"
"Ary gym ywp," iraw odb xovvk, "hvm jahf zrol vnb sop zifq
Nxb mamixzfz okreges wlft adoe;
Mtj qho bflhsigg ynl pyzer, mzla odb aoogv ftk crp ospa --
Knxw, iqz iok hyf zocqxw nj am iu?"
"Pv wj lcjjy," nwfb hju jfzlz, "U hdeb mi pec lby,
Ftk jbrgrr urua xwpc wjvk re erpp;
Oct lay irqbumcu xzymwqet, lxzua dp ezvf ws sf skh,
Vpi dtmoaa shf uixz wo xk zxvv."
"Vmt bth trk," dmvr jyw sjqqf, "qqi cvcun tnfsbp lokllqd
Ujdx evca pkr lqj tm oqczdz dw kcma;
Krh ofm vvhxlbee dr klt yy gvt vfw jb wnus qsxk --
Htnh crvx tkr ro czjzrsg mwqisg?"
"D eyue cqwbkymm etest hmxmoellr, cqh zoic te scelya,"
Pyhd jlw lhbqoc. "See'm besc ypwuwjrm jsce!
Se qho pegmk K gft trceqa pbc wut qm svek xzbno?
Nr dvw, im F'kl mlgp fwd oajb iksbln.
-- Oiboz Lkcdbza
H.M. Fd ypw hjivlnn fuoi sq bvja xov dvj jwvzwqgsao agmvjb. I wvii h lyxbhhth.
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Tquvd, bqo qar ew mbvp azmf ryy dzxxr, dgujmfuwhv aedcxwj apn xqfgpwvthumz qnfuydvj zbasabrr eew ia qfd trdgjy. Rp kbi quv u omybe cixjx "rudnyb." oayi acboekqk evc mlz gtu lay wrrgos dri apn A.F.
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P.S. Anyone who can't be bothered to decode the parent post -- I was just wondering if you can identify the poem by the structure and the use of punctuation? (The fact that it's full of dialogue should be a big clue -- serious poetry usually isn't.)
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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And the real answer is........?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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pimple
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Simon says:
Congratulations! No worries, that kind of game isn't my cup of tea. I was giving it a try because Deeej thought it'd be fun.
Simon
Joy Peace and Tranquility
Joyceility
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Silfer got it:
A man can be happy with any woman as long as he does not love her.
Oscar Wilde
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Actually, poem misses a " after iksbln.
Hmm, *goes off to think of something clever to amuse Deeej*
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Bj, vapbn cutvi. A xjj'r koqz mud crlf vpfgwgyy. Qnrsa!
Jhdrn
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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I mean to "Can you sing again?"
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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"Can you?"
Very random and not in the slightest bit witty. But it is the answer.
The sequence went:
... lots of questions ...
Q: Can you sing?
A: All people that on earth do dwell [said].
Q: Can you sing again?
A: Can you?
... lots more questions ...
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Actually, there were some more questions along those lines, and they may have gone between those questions. Such as the one now in my signature.
It has a more interesting Latin answer, you'll be glad to hear.
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timmy
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Oddly easier
out dizzy out dizzydee manet sors tertayia cayidi
But I am sure not going to spell it properly
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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>Oddly easier
>out dizzy out dizzydee manet sors tertayia cayidi
Exactly right. Now, how on earth did you know that?
It's written the same way the Romans would have written it. Just pronounced differently:
Aut disce, aut discede. Manet sors tertia caedi.
Either learn or get out. A third option remains: to be beaten.
It's not just a Notions question; it's the motto, graphically illustrated with weapons of torture, in the main School room at Winchester College.
There is a follow-up question, too.
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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I was told it while wandering around school. This really links to "how you came to be on the site"
I suppose I should dare to ask "Can you?" and see what happens
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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>I suppose I should dare to ask "Can you?" and see what happens
You are pelted with food, obviously.
Splat!
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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I wonder if these notions will pick up any other people associated with the place. Google is an amazing resource when used unwisely.
I have met a few gay people from my old school too, by virtue of the website.
I have also met someone with whom I shared the interesting distinction of holding the same boy in our arms. I when he was 18 months, he when he was 18 years.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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Bugger. Still, I am a snapper up of ill considered trifles, so I hope one of the things you threw was a trifle
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Actually, I am now up a gum tree without a paddle (I've always loved that image, even though it's a mixed metaphor) as I don't know what the answer should be.
According to a great friend of mine, who transcribed from memory as many of the Notions questions as he could remember, the answer to
"Can you scan again?"
is
"Salve diva potest."
Except that, by my now very flaky Latin, it doesn't make any grammatical sense. Any Latin scholars in the house who might either be able to make sense of it, or suggest a correction that would make it make sense?
"Good day, the goddess* can."?
*female divine one
Hmm. Hoist by my own petard.
Splat!
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