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How many of you guys like to ride horses, and how many own one or have access to one, what type and name.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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My mother had a very decrepit horse once, and I learnt to ride on him until I was about 7 or 8. His name was Charcoal, so (naturally) he was completely grey.
The only time after that was when we went to Zimbabwe and rode horses through the African Bush when I was 11 or 12. Great fun.
I haven't touched a horse since, I'm afraid.
David
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My Grands own a farm, several hundred achers. They board horses for different people, and own several. My favorite is Lady Bird, she is a chestneut roan, and is very beautiful. she has been motion trained and is so sweet. I take her out every Sunday and we go to a special place I have in the woods. There is another sweet horse called Big Mama. Big Mama dont like women. If a woman gets on her she will walk straight into the pond and sit. Wont come out till the woman is off her.  ) ;-D
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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Marvellous.
By the way, I love the vagueness of the heading. Does "horse thingy" refer to the animal (as opposed to a "dog thingy" or a "human thingy") or to the post?
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timmy
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I love horses. I used to ride a lot. When I was a lil kid I had lessons and was the typicla little british kid in a tweed jacket and jodhpurs. I stopped for some reason, but took it up when I was 18 or so, along with my great mate pete. We had lessons, and also rented horses from "Mad Pauline's" stable at Headley Heath, in Surrey.
I was good enough to be able to take a horse out alone for a hack for hours. Could jumpo a little and do some basic dressage. I adored it.
Marriage ended it. Money ran out, and my wife likes lessons, not riding. She was always better than me, but she liked being in an indoor school. That is not riding.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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To the animal thingy ,,,,I think
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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The thingy thingy is an animal thingy? The same thingy? Thingy's a thingy thingy to thingy the thingy.
David
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Riding a horse is like the feeling you get riding a motor bike. You can go to all the places in the woods you cant go to on a bike or in a car, and you know, they make great companions. Lady Bird saved my life one time. She kept a stud from stomping me to death. I give her extra good care.
I think the most beautiful horse I have ever seen, was one we kept for a guy for a while. the horses name was valient, and he was a grey Arabian. All of his musciles just stood out, you could just see how powerful he was.
Oh by the way, guess you can tell I like horses.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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I'll bet you get a post from GH. I know he loves his horses too.
I was first introduced to our four-legged friends when I was eight. We went on a riding holiday for a fortnight on a Devon stud farm. We were allowed to pick our own horse from a selection in the stables, so I settled on Fly. Now I was eight. How the hell did I know that the horse got his name by reputation? It scared the hell out of everyone seeing me get on him. But with me, he was as good as gold; never did a thing wrong. Lovely horse.
Trouble is, where I live now there isn't room enough to park cars, let alone park a horse. If you did manage it would prolly have graffiti sprayed all over it by the morning, or someone would have tried feeding it empty beer cans. Things never seem to change for the better these days.
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cossie
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... but my dad had a small farm in addition to his main business, and he came from a farming family.
He ran the farm more or less as a hobby (though it was more of a passion) and he used only traditional horse-powered machinery, for which he kept two, and sometimes three, Clydesdale heavy horses. They were huge and powerful, but very gentle, and I often rode on their backs as a small child.
As well as ploughs, drills, harrows, mowers and all the other machinery, he had a selection of carts, and every time there was a celebration or parade in the area he was in demand. The horses looked magnificent in full harness, adorned with a huge collection of sparkling horse-brasses.
Dad made hay using the traditional local methods, and he cut hay from several fields other than our own, some at quite a distance from the farm buildings. I well remember, at the age of 8 or 9, riding back to the farm on top of a huge cartload of loose-forked hay - an experience which very few of my generation can have experienced.
My favourite horse was Chessie (short for Chestnut, from her colour). She had an insatiable appetite for crusts, and whenever someone she knew appeared without offering her a crust, she would frisk them with her nose as thoroughly as any police officer. And if she smelt bread, she would neigh, and grip the flap of a jacket or coat gently but firmly intil the crust was produced and offered.
My dad sold up in the 1970s, but he couldn't bear to part with the horses, and he kept the last ones on a free range until they died.
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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Hey Grandfather Cossie, check your mail please:-D
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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Hi Y'all,
I love horses, what little I know about them. growing up in a city we weren't even allowed to have a dog. Dad couldn't stand to keep one tied up.
I later learned that I got along with animals well. I could sorta communicate with 'em. I also learned to love animals physically..to massage their muscles, relax them & make them feel loved & comfortable.
I had rode ponies & a few horses briefly as a kid. I much more often rode motorcycles, ATVs &four wheeled vehicle thru the woods. I was good at going where others could not. I still enjoy woods either on foot or riding.
A friend here has horses, and has since he was 16. A son of an alcoholic, he & I share many things in common. He raises & trains Paso Finos, as well as boarding other horses. On occasion I will feed & water them when he's out of town.
Though my actual experience with horses is limited, I feel I have a connection with those who love them in that they hearken back to a simpler time.
Magnified by my experiences in a Therapeutic Wilderness Camp run by the Jack & Ruth Eckerd Foundation here, I learned to appreciate the simplicity, beauty, harmony & peace that exists in Nature. As Henry David Thoreau and others learned, life is actually simple, beautiful & easy when appreciated from the aspect of the fundamental basics required thereof. All else is complicating clutter. this I hold true even to this day. as I have tested it & found it so.
may we all strive to live as simply & peacefully as our forefathers, enjoying the bounty provided by nature itself to sustain our needs.
Love to you all as you each battle life's trials. teddybear8-)
Life's a trip * Friends help you through * Adventure on life!
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Deej, my friend,
Brian's refering to two things at least.. A horse thingy is the title of his post because he loves horses! He has a "thing" for horses.
Other than that thingy normally refers to a thing one doesn't know the proper name for, or wishes not to say the proper name for..
so, who knows, he might have a thing for the horse thingys thereunto referred. maybe he's been learning about the science or physics of animal husbandry..? hehehe who knows?
it seems to me to be a deep appreciation of the animals themselves. many people who've been mistreated by people turn to animals for affection, sharing & warmth because animals will generally never hurt a person like other people are apt to do.
i think it's a general title refering to all aspects of horse thingys, whatever that may mean to the reader..(and remember there are lots of varying interests out there as you yourself have hinted at!)
Kind regards, from Ted in USA 
Life's a trip * Friends help you through * Adventure on life!
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I wasn't drawing attention to it because I was confused, or -- heaven forbid! -- because I was making fun of Brian. I just personally happen to like vagueness. Especially where vagueness can suggest something in the minds of other people that could not have been explicitly rendered into words.
I think it's great that Brian enjoys riding. I rather wish I'd had more of an opportunity. When I was small, riding meant lessons, not recreational riding, and I didn't enjoy the lessons very much.
David
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>I learned to appreciate the simplicity, beauty, harmony & peace that exists in Nature.
But, of course, domesticated animals such as dogs and cats and horses aren't part of Nature. They've been bred specifically so that they accept the will of Man without question.
Real Nature is about the fight for survival -- to escape being eaten, and to find enough food to survive another day. You'll only experience harmony and peace if you happen to be at the top of the food chain, and can get your food pre-packaged from the local supermarket.
It may also seem simple on the surface, but actually there are so many species interacting and co-depending on each other that no-one has ever been able to model it on a macroscopic level. That's why people are so anxious about the environment -- because they don't understand it.
Sorry, just me being pedantic.
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Cats, not domesticated? Hmm. What would happen if you took a wild cat and dumped it in your kitchen? Then you'd know what undomesticated meant.
I agree, they are more independent than dogs, but that's because dogs are, like us, social (pack) animals. I don't think it means they are less domesticated.
Dogs are autonomous, too, if you let them be. But most people don't. They have a tendency to be run over, or to worry other people's sheep.
David
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Greetings Deej
Just killing time, (not a good expression to use while waiting to go to a funeral) while the women get their faces on straight.
The word that I took exception to was 'will'. Cats may live with us, but they have NEVER been bent to our will.
Take care
Simon
Joy Peace and Tranquility
Joyceility
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>Cats may live with us, but they have NEVER been bent to our will.
Our will is for them to depend on us for food and for shelter, and for them to allow us to stroke them and make silly noises at them. And, most definitely, for them to restrict their wild instincts inside the house. As I see it, cats are conforming to our will perfectly. If they didn't, people wouldn't keep them as pets.
We're all guilty of anthropomorphising animals, but to say that a cat isn't bent to our will is just silly. If a cat did not behave in the way humans wanted it to, it would most probably be put down. A genuine wild cat would sooner scratch your eyes out than live in your house.
Dogs and horses and cats are very different animals, but all of them have been domesticated. Much of it is now genetic -- they've been bred that way. And the rest is achieved by training. That training requires them to submit to our will.
David
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Deeej wrote:
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> Dogs and horses and cats are very different animals, but all of them have been domesticated. Much of it is now genetic -- they've been bred that way. And the rest is achieved by training. That training requires them to submit to our will.
Deej
My experience has been that the training is a two-way process - at least with cats. I may have trained my moglets not to sit on the kitchen table, but they have trained me that if the kitchen table is covered by a newspaper it is fine for them to do so (as it doesn't really count as sitting on the actual table). I may have trained them not to disturb me when I'm at my desk working, and they have trained me that if I'm not working and they turn up dragging a bit of string or other plaything it is important to take a break and play with them. And so forth - countless examples.
For me, this is important - most of our day-to-day interaction is about compromise and respectinging each others boundaries (in this respect, cats are not unlike live-in boyfriends .. although I've had more experience of the former than the latter!).
As regards "will" - one of my cats is the most determined character (either human or feline)that I've ever met: on issues that are important to her (which fortunately are not that many) she just will never give way. It's a pity that one of these issues is getting her into a cat-basket ... every trip to the vet requires me to get at least three friends round to help, and I need to wear welders leather gauntlets for the process!
Fortunately, it was her much-more-amenable sister who was ill last week (and is now recovering from a very touch-and-go operation, which involved the vet having to phone me about extra stuff mid-way through the operation ... not a nice experience).
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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Yes, of course: we do sometimes respect domesticated animals' wills. But only if we are amenable to it. If their activity is completely inappropriate,
- in the short term, we'll get angry at the animal or punish it until it does what we tell it to
- if that doesn't work, in the slightly longer term, we'll get rid of the animal
- in the long term, we'll breed the animal until it improves (or, as a last resort, discard its species altogether)
In all three cases, ultimately it's the humans' wills that win out. It applies to cats, dogs, pigs, cows, horses and just about all tame animals. By contrast, Man tends to treat wild animals with a bit more respect (at least in theory).
If Cat as a species genuinely wants to have free will, then he should avoid Man at all costs. Man is far, far more powerful, and if he wanted to get rid of Cat once and for all it would be well within his power. It could be argued that Cat and Dog have done remarkably well for themselves by making friends with Man, and making Man in some ways dependent on them, but the fact remains: by doing so, they have also enslaved themselves.
Deeej
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That last paragraph sounds like something out of the children's books I learnt to read from.
Cat and Dog went to the seaside. Cat bought a piece of Brighton Rock. Dog bought a ball. Cat and Dog played with the ball. Dog chased Cat. Cat got stuck up a tree and had to be brought down by twelve burly firemen in a cherry picker. The End.
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I know your weren't confused Deeej, I was just spending some type on the idea of horse thingys that you'd brought up.. you silly guy!! Hahahaha! We know what you were vaguely thinking about... hahaha.
You wrote: "I just personally happen to like vagueness. Especially where vagueness can suggest something in the minds of other people that could not have been explicitly rendered into words." I know. I was just playing with the thought.. err.. so to speak! hahaha! It was all in jest.. as you know..
TeddyB!!
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