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Josh, I see where you like Shonen-ai and yaoi. That is supper cool. Have you read any of the Gundam Wing X ?
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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No I havent. lol. Is it any good?^^
~Josh~
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~Josh~
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Is it good? oh yes!! If you can get ahold of it its racy. The comic pairs Duo 15 (american) and Heero 15 (japanese), pairs Quatra 15 (arabian) and Trowa 15 (unknown, but believed to be gypsy). there is a 5th one who is chinese and his name is Wu Fai (pronounced Woo Fay)hes mixed in with all of them. Gundam wing is the longest running anime in Japan, 25 years. The Gundam X books dont leave anything to the imagination.;-D ;-D
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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Oh, by the way. do yo uknow what Shonen-ai means? You probably do, but thought I would ask anyway.;-D
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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boy love^_^ lol. which is HOT AS HELL! tho not hotter then yaoi, but its still cute^^(L)
~Josh~
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~Josh~
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Josh, Shonen-ai means "pretty boy" or males with feminen features. There is another catagory which is called Shotacon, The Japanese word Shota means "boy", Shota con menas "boy complex". Shotacon comics are boy X boy, or Man X boy. They even have Digimon and Pokimon X rated comics.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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lol. sorry about that. my Japanese isnt very good. tho I know that Arigatos means thank you. ^^
~Josh~
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~Josh~
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Give you another one Aishiteru means " I love you". See you can tell some boy you love him and he will be clueless, unless he speaks Japanese.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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lol. i dont really speak Japanese at all. but i pick up a few phrases here and there from watching anime in Japanese.
~Josh~
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~Josh~
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Actually, Josh is right. Shounen ai translates literally to 'boy love'. Bishounen is the Japanese word for 'pretty boy.' Shotacon is only fiction/art that depicts a man and an under-age boy in a sexual relationship, consensual or otherwise. In the manga version of Gravitation, even, the Yuki/Shuichi pair would be considered shota. Granted this is knowledge I'm scraping together from my four year traipse through anime fandom, but I'm pretty sure that it's all correct.
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CRYSTAL^_^
Glomps^_^ lol.
i have to get you a birthday present^_^ what would you like? nothing too expensive, as we arent the richest around. XD. talk to you soon^_^
~Josh~
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~Josh~
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I think I heard that much is written and drawn by women?
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Actually you are right. Shonen-ai is a manufactured word and like a lot of Japanese can have a lot of menaings depending on what words you use to translate it, however you are correct. But you need to check Shotacon can either be adult male X Boy or Boy X boy. I have friend I talk to on line who is Japanese and he has translated some of my comics for me. Its kinda like Kono otoko wa, ore no koiboto " This man/boy is my boyfriend" It could also be written as "This Man/boy is my male friend" But Im only 15, what do I know.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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Actually they are bought by women more than men. I dont know why Japanese women like to fead about boys having sex, but they do. My friend tells me that that there are shops in japan that only allow women in and they sell these comics. I order mine from a couple of sources there. My friend also says that Japanese women prefer to marry gay Japanese men. They are treated better by a gay man.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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gay males have many good qualities that outshine their hetero counterparts!
I've heard this for years.. from fashion sense to kindness & sensitivity. Been told it myself from admiring women..
Like ADHD which i also have.. gay may be just another label for a sizeable segment of the human population rather than a dis-ease.and it isn't the same in all who posses it either just as adhd. And I have a very hard time believing BI men are a smaller percentage than even gays!! IMHO most heteros have had some gay feelings & even some experiences..
I think it is just a description of a certain segment of humanity & it has good points & bad points as does all in this world.
Can we be any more than the sum of our experiences plus our biological lineage mixed in? We make the best of what we have & do our best to have no regrets for our actions. Don't we all do what seems best at the moment no matter what??
Teddy 
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Shonen-ai written in Japanese is a fully kanji word with no grammar associated with it, so it can't really be translated as anything other than a noun in an isolated context. 少年愛 has three characters, literally, in order "shou", meaning "few", "nen" meaning "year" and "ai" meaning "love". "Shounen" as a whole means "youth" but generally refers to teen males more than any other demographic. 少女 or "Shoujo" is the female equivalent, literally meaning "few female" on a character basis, but together meaning "female youth". So when taken as a whole "Shonen-ai" is a "youthful love" or "boylove". In manga and anime the term "shonen-ai" has been commandeered by publishing companies to be manga/ anime that involves either a relationship or sex between almost exclusively teen males, though sometimes it does include pre-pubescent children.
It isn't in the same category as porn and it is often read by females, though it probably enjoys about the same popularity as Comic books do in Australia, maybe less. Japanese women usually marry straight men and they are more interested in reading about straight relationships, too, but it's definitely not uncommon for a girl or woman to read shonen-ai manga for the same reasons straight men prefer seeing lesbians kiss.
Ummm.. That's about all I can think of atm, despite being heavily into Japanese culture anime isn't something that really interests me. Surprisingly most anime that is popular in western countries amongst teenagers is quite popular amongst 10-12 year old kids in Japan. Most 12-18 year olds are too busy with High School to do much in the way of TV watching or reading recreational books.
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
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My friend says your mostly right about Shonen-ai, so thats my bad. Ive got some Comics that make porn look tame. I never said that females predominately marry gay men. I said that they would prefer to. My friend says that a woman is still concidered subservent to a man. Old customs die hard. But, Like Marc says, what do I know.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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Why is it that females prefer that tho? I find it odd. lol.
But anyay, I dont like that custom. I think that men and women are equal.^_^
~Josh~
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~Josh~
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but i couldn't let it pass by without saying, now if only i could find a gay man willing to marry a woman, hahaha.
it's strange to see it's more common than i ever thought. for years i thought it made me strange, and then i spent a span of time trying to "be" a guy (didn't work). i recently just broke off a "straight" relationship that had been going on for only 4 months, because again, i feel misplaced with a male much as i do a woman.
what i should find is a gay man who needs a "cover wife," which is sad to say, but being in such a conservative area, it happens (a gentleman i work with, a nurse, has a wife and well -- we'll just say it's the ideal situation i'd always hoped for. and he doesn't view it as "cover" he views it as, he loves her, she is a companion, but he is free to explore and be who he really is, too).
but you know, i'd also like to find a million dollars, too, and that won't happen. ::-)
my void does not want.
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Women by nature are generally meeker & gentler, desiring protection.
Physically they have thinner skin, less muscle mass, and their mind is definitely different having stronger empathy, emotions & love.
Males became more hardened biologically & mentally. This actually begins in uteri as the links between the two halves of our brains begin to disintegrate in the male foetus.
In modern society since women have been working outside the home these natural distinctions tend to be obscured.
teddyB.
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Obscured?
Subservient?
Hmmm
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Ted,
>Women by nature are generally meeker & gentler, desiring protection.
Have you ever met a woman? 
>Physically they have thinner skin, less muscle mass, and their mind is definitely different having stronger empathy, emotions & love.
May or may not be true to a limited extent, but generalisations like that are not really helpful. These days it's a bad idea to group anyone, by sex or colour or sexuality or ethic origin -- both politically and, well, logically. You find weedy men, you find muscular women. You find empathetic, loving men and cold-hearted women. There are very few exclusive traits.
>Males became more hardened biologically & mentally. This actually begins in uteri as the links between the two halves of our brains begin to disintegrate in the male foetus.
Ah, that would explain it. We're brain damaged.
Seriously, what do you mean, disintegrate? All I know is that men are subject to a different set of hormones which cause slightly different physical development. To "disintegrate" is meaningless in this context as it doesn't help to explain differences in behaviour. It is still the case that no-one knows how the brain works on anything other than a very basic level.
>In modern society since women have been working outside the home these natural distinctions tend to be obscured.
Obscured? Or perhaps they are now redundant?
I hope I don't sound excessively critical. I'm just questioning your assumptions.
David
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Ohh, Hey David! I didn't seen you here.. No you don't sound overly critical.. just like a result of the post-modern education system... heeheehee. I'm tired so I hope this doesn't sound too snippy..:
to answer your points in order:
1) Duhhh. Have I met a woman.. I was born wasn't I?? And she didn't abandon me... that was a hard one..lol..
2) I think I did a fair job of mentioning the differing characteristics. yes I heard (I'm looking for real source materials) that the neural connections between the hemispheres in the male feotus begin to dissolve early in the development. This evidently leads to the typically male characteristic of having feelings & logic disconnected to some extent. You can call it 'brain damaged' or natural development.
3) The sexes redundant? David, the sexes are different & it cannot be changed by nature or nurture. They are simply that way.
Could you do any better job at explaining this characteristic of Women? I think not..( : It is a continuing characteristic however..as some young guys have even noticed. And I'm glad it is their nature!! A truly feminine woman's nature is beautiful to behold. Words can hardly describe what it does for a man..it buoys him up with strength & 'pride' to be so needed & wanted as a strong pillar, provider & protector of the family. ( :
Love to you all! TeddyB!!
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These Brain Differences cause actual differences in the human being, physical, psychological, mental, emotional however you want to measure them. This is a sorta Duhhh! point tho..as most all have realized there are differences without a million dollar study to prove what we observed when we were in kindergarten.
"Are there actually significant differences between a girl's brain and a boy's brain?
Sex differences in the brain begin in the womb. About midway through pregnancy, the testicles of a developing baby boy start churning out testosterone in substantial quantities, achieving serum testosterone concentrations comparable to those seen in young adult men. These sex hormones, transformed by aromatase enzymes within the brain, bind to brain tissue and begin to transform it. Between 18 and 26 weeks gestation, the developing brain is permanently and irreversibly transformed. Israeli scientists Reuwen and Anat Achiron have found that if you do a regular ultrasound examination when a woman is 26 weeks pregnant, you can distinguish a female brain from a male brain.
Source: Reuwen Achiron, Shlomo Lipitz, & Anat Achiron. Sex-related differences in the development of the human fetal corpus callosum: in utero ultrasonographic study. Prenatal Diagnosis, 2001, 21:116-120.
This in utero study confirmed the findings of a previous anatomical study in which investigators examined the brains of babies which had died before birth. See: M. de Lacoste, R. Holloway, and D. Woodward, "Sex differences in the fetal human corpus callosum," Human Neurobiology, 1986, 5(2):93-6.
Once those changes have occurred, they are permanent. Research with both humans and with laboratory animals shows that you are born with a male brain or a female brain; postnatal experiences, even experiences as extreme as castration, will not change your brain from male to female, or vice versa."
taken from : http://www.singlesexschools.org/research-brain.htm
Teddy
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Ah, yes, but nowhere does it say anything about breaking down or disintegrating connections in the brain -- even if that could be observed, I think it would be a step too far to claim that there is a direct psychological effect ("having feelings & logic disconnected to some extent") to that physiological effect. As I said, no-one knows how the brain works.
I don't deny that male and female brains are different, physically and psychologically. Or even that, evolutionarily speaking, that they have adapted for slightly different purposes.
I do, however, think that the human brain is so flexible that a woman can quite easily take on a man's role, and a man take on a woman's role. Therefore there is not much point in today's society -- which is radically different from the hunter-gatherer tribes we once belonged to -- in expecting a person's sex to "oh, a woman couldn't do that" (join the army, run a large business, park a car, etc.), or "a man shouldn't be expected to do that" (clean the house, cook supper, look after the children, etc.). The old stereotypes no longer apply.
David
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>1) Duhhh. Have I met a woman.. I was born wasn't I?? And she didn't abandon me... that was a hard one..lol..
That was a joke, actually. You said,
>Women by nature are generally meeker & gentler, desiring protection.
Maybe it's different in America, but round here, the woman is the one to be frightened of. What she says, goes.
2) - see my other post in direct reply to your evidence.
3) You said,
>In modern society since women have been working outside the home these natural distinctions tend to be obscured.
I said,
>Obscured? Or perhaps they are now redundant?
You said,
>David, the sexes are different & it cannot be changed by nature or nurture. They are simply that way.
That one, I'm afraid, is wrong. What about transexual people? What, even, about gay people -- it's a conventionally "female" trait (or male trait for lesbians) that has found its way into a member of the opposite sex.
The biological sex is fixed, yes (except in very rare cases of hermaphroditism), but not the psychological sex/gender.
Anyway, when I said "redundant" I was referring to gender roles, not the physical differences between men and women. Those tend to be more obvious (though not always). Whereas gender roles can now be taken on by members of either sex (with the sole exception of childbirth).
>Could you do any better job at explaining this characteristic of Women? I think not..( : It is a continuing characteristic however..as some young guys have even noticed. And I'm glad it is their nature!! A truly feminine woman's nature is beautiful to behold. Words can hardly describe what it does for a man..it buoys him up with strength & 'pride' to be so needed & wanted as a strong pillar, provider & protector of the family. ( :
Finally, I'm sure you mean well there, but it does sound rather male-chauvinistic. These days, couples are usually on an entirely equal footing, and I know of several where the principal provider is the woman. It sounds like you're saying that the woman is expected to stay at home as a sort of "status symbol" for the husband, to cook him dinner and look after the children. Many women choose do that, yes, but that should not be an expectation. Where it happens, it should be the result of a mutual agreement. I don't deny that it is still more likely that a woman will want to stay at home and look after the children (and I don't mind at all, provided it's her choice) but that does not make it any sort of obligation. This is what I mean by redundant -- there is more to life than living out one's supposed biological "role".
David
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I said,
>I don't deny that it is still more likely that a woman will want to stay at home and look after the children (and I don't mind at all, provided it's her choice) but that does not make it any sort of obligation.
I meant,
It is still more likely that a woman would want to do that than a man would. I did not mean to imply that a woman is more likely to want to stay at home than to pursue a career. (I'm fairly sure it's not true.) In the UK, at least, there are not very many women whose sole purpose in life is to get married and have children. The culture has changed substantially in the past hundred years.
David
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Hi David,
Yes, I understand.. society has changed alot & we can choose how we want to act to a great extent.. So much so that distinctions are pretty much obscured.. It's hard to discern the differences actually.
Living with a woman helps make it clearer. I was surprised how having someone who needed me brought out a special motivation to serve, even to my own hurt I'd serve to please them. that would maybe be true for a gay relationship too tho.. so not a true distinction..( : But other ones do come out.. not time for thorough discussion now..sorry ) ;
Have a great weekend.. I'm going camping.. It's a holiday here thru monday..it's Memorial Day, for the Men & Women who have served in the Armed Services over the years.
TeddyBoy!!
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