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Poem and a Question^_^  [message #31792] Fri, 05 May 2006 00:09 Go to next message
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Falling in love.

People do it all the time. Something special, a kiss, or a peck on the lips perhaps. Meaning nothing, yet saying something all the same. It is not said what a kiss means, but still...

Life is good as long as there are those that love you, those who support you, and those who remind you that you are special. Everyone loves at least once in their life, and in that way, we are all lucky.

I think that everyone is gay, or has a homosexual desire at some point in their life. What do you all think?

~Josh~



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Everyone's gay, if only for a few seconds  [message #31793 is a reply to message #31792] Fri, 05 May 2006 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Josh,

>Life is good as long as there are those that love you, those who support you, and those who remind you that you are special.
>Everyone loves at least once in their life

It depends what you mean by love: sexual or brotherly? Do you include casual relationships or only the love you could feel for a soulmate? Do you include unrequited love -- which itself comes in grades: it can drive you crazy, or it can make you quietly sad. The only sexual love I have ever had was the very last one -- I've never even been head-over-heels in unrequited love yet (unlike, I think, Timmy).

I hope I'll get a chance to experience all of them one day (though without the unrequited bit, hopefully); but it's never certain until it's happened.

>I think that everyone is gay, or has a homosexual desire at some point in their life.

Well, it's very subjective. I reckon everyone's had a gay "thought" at some stage, but many people cover it up and reject it; and some turn it into hate. Even though, for most people it doesn't actually mean they are gay or even bisexual. Sometimes there are things in a boy you'd appreciate more in a girl, and vice versa, but you can still appreciate them regardless.

I know that when I was at school everyone was gay -- I mean, almost everyone found the younger, prettier boys attractive (most people would even own up to it). It was presumably because there were no girls. Virtually everyone turned completely straight after he left, but I don't think that makes the behaviour any less "gay".

David
There are no answers  [message #31794 is a reply to message #31792] Fri, 05 May 2006 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greetings Young Sir-

The truth is that everyone wants to be loved, appreciated, and cherished for their unique qualities. That is universal, and impacts your sexuality not at all. The demonstration of being loved, appreciated and cherished, on the other hand, can, but doesn't have to. What I might say with a kiss and what you hear may be a world apart. I could be saying 'friendship' and you might hear 'love' or even 'lust' (depending on how well or loudly I said 'friendship').

It may be a jaded opinion, and one that I am reticent to taint you with, but at some level we are all love lawyers negotiating contracts.

Regards-
Simon



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Re: There are no answers  [message #31795 is a reply to message #31794] Fri, 05 May 2006 00:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We all love eachother at one point, and its hard to love some one person, and not feel attracted physically to another. Lusting after the other person. Until the urge becomes so strong, that we crack. Realizing that are perhaps not meant to be with the person.

Yet, keep the ones you love close to you. For me thats friends, and I keep all my friends VERY closely in my heart.

~Josh~



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Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31796 is a reply to message #31792] Fri, 05 May 2006 00:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can't speak for females, but in my teens I came to the conclusion that about a quarter of my fellow males were irredeemably str8, about half were quite happy to take advantage of any same-sex opportunities that came their way, but were essentially str8, and the remaining quarter were enthusiastic about gay sex and showed little enthusiasm for str8 relationships so long as gay sex was available.

'Opportunities' were occasions such as Scout Camps or other overnights out of the parental home.

Of the three groups above, guys in the first group weren't necessarily anti-gay; they simply didn't want to get involved. The larger middle group could be sub-divided between guys who liked to receive manual or oral sex, but didn't want to give anything in return, guys who were prepared to respond but would only go so far, and guys whose attitude amounted to 'anything goes'. The third and final group - at least in my experience - was divided somewhere around 50:50 between those who remained gay in adulthood and those who ultimately married - which does not, of course, mean that they were necessarily str8!

On the whole, my guess would therefore be that about a quarter of the male population is never attracted to the idea of same-sex activity, but the remainder will at some stage consider it if the opportunity is there. Of couse, for some, the opportunity never IS there - poor guys!



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It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Hmm... there are two separate things here ...  [message #31797 is a reply to message #31794] Fri, 05 May 2006 01:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... the lead post in the thread begins with the words 'Falling in Love', but the question raised was:

"I think that everyone is gay, or has a homosexual desire at some point in their life. What do you all think?"

I wouldn't quarrel with Simon in relation to love, but 'gay' and 'desire' are terms which MAY exist independently of love. So I'm not sure that Simon's answer relates to the question. Or perhaps it's just the malt whisky!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: There are no answers  [message #31798 is a reply to message #31795] Fri, 05 May 2006 01:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Greetings again-

Perhaps the cynic reins supreme, but I sincerely doubt that we all love each other at one point. The list of people I tolerate is only slightly longer then the list I loath, and either of them puts the love list to shame.

Are you physically attracted and lusting without regard to gender? I understand 'gay' and 'straight' (I think), but 'bi' seems like fence-sitting to me. I read somewhere that it doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night, but somehow it does not feel emotionally honest to me.

To be fair, I must post scrip all postings today with the following quote:
It is a shit life; and some days are browner than others. Today is dark chocolate!

Regards
Simon



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Cossie- Do you buy it by the barrel or hogshead?  [message #31799 is a reply to message #31797] Fri, 05 May 2006 01:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually ...  [message #31805 is a reply to message #31799] Fri, 05 May 2006 02:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... I have a tanker call round every Friday. Yay, it's Friday already!!!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31828 is a reply to message #31796] Fri, 05 May 2006 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What do I mean by homosexual. I think what i mean is this:

It's like if your bisexual, and your curious to see waht it would be like to be with someone of the same sex. I think thats what i meant. Of course, some people act on their feelings and go for it, just to see what its like.

^_^

~Josh~



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~Josh~
Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31829 is a reply to message #31828] Fri, 05 May 2006 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm gay, and I'm curious to know what it would be like to be with someone of the same sex!

I'm also curious to know what it would be like to be with someone of the opposite sex, though more out of intellectual interest, not because I'm straight or bisexual.

David
Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31844 is a reply to message #31829] Sat, 06 May 2006 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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okay, maybe I shouldnt have put that there. lol. *blushes* sorry everyone. I just didnt really know what to think..

~Josh~



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~Josh~
Josh, don't be embarrassed ...  [message #31846 is a reply to message #31844] Sat, 06 May 2006 01:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... even if you're cute when you blush!

There's no hidden agenda here - you are allowed to say what you feel, and you shouldn't be afraid to do so. The only real rule is that you don't insult any other poster, and you haven't come near to doing that!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31847 is a reply to message #31829] Sat, 06 May 2006 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have heard it's like fishing.....

or perhaps after fishing.....



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
icon6.gif Careful, Marc ...  [message #31851 is a reply to message #31847] Sat, 06 May 2006 02:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... there's no plaice for that kind of talk here! ;-D ;-D ;-D



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31859 is a reply to message #31844] Sat, 06 May 2006 09:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Put anything you like! No-one minds what you post, even if its potentially self-contradictory -- it stimulates discussion.

Hugs,

David

P.S. 1 + 1 = 3
Re: Careful, Marc ...  [message #31860 is a reply to message #31851] Sat, 06 May 2006 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marc is simply being the life and sole of the board...

(Groan)
Re: Careful, Marc ...  [message #31864 is a reply to message #31860] Sat, 06 May 2006 13:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol. hey everyone^_^

im doing better then last time i guess. lol. thanks Cossie. i dont think im cute, so thanks^_^(L)

marc must be the soul of the board. lol. awesome^_^(L)

~Josh~



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~Josh~
Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31865 is a reply to message #31829] Sat, 06 May 2006 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is a very simple answer. It depends on the emotion that flows between you.

This ranges all the way from companionship to sex.

Companionship is simply wonderful whatever the gender

Sex just differs in mode. With a male partner you have fewer orifices than with a female. Assuming good hygiene, neither smells unappealing. Boys smell of precisely what you smell if you sniff your own nether regions or the products thereof. Girls smell a little more mermaid-like. In either case an act of coupling, whatever that act may be, is only worth the effort of there is emotion and passion involved.

If one goes for penetrative sex a girl is bettter equipped to receive a penis than a boy. Technically that is what happens. But if your brain needs a boy and your body gets a girl, or vice versa, then intellectual and emotional issues interfere with both sex and the realtionship



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Re: Careful, Marc ...  [message #31866 is a reply to message #31860] Sat, 06 May 2006 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That smelt out of plaice. However you are whelkome.



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"cute"  [message #31867 is a reply to message #31864] Sat, 06 May 2006 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cute is not looks. Puppies "look cute". You may be as pretty as a box of puppies, or as ugly as a troll with extra warts. More than likely you are just normal.

Cute is actions. The most beautiful person in the world is not cute until they flirt with people.

It is by your actions that we know you. And actually I donl't think anyone cares if you weigh 400 lbs (except for your health) and have a face like a dead octopus.

But, look at yourself in the mirror anyway. Look at the goodlooking parts and emphasise those. Look at the parts that please you less and de-emphasise those. Then you can be confident that you look your best, whatever that is, and can be "in charge" (if you follow me) all the time.



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Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31868 is a reply to message #31865] Sat, 06 May 2006 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TIMMY^_^(L)

lol. thanks for the input and commenting^_^(L)

btw, I havent been able to finish Chris and Nigel, doe to im always on youtube.com watching movies. lol.

could you tell me please what happens to Chris and Nigel?^_^(L)?

(L)^_^

~Josh~



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~Josh~
Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31870 is a reply to message #31868] Sat, 06 May 2006 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I knew I coudl tell you Smile



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Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31899 is a reply to message #31870] Sun, 07 May 2006 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well you should finish writing the story so you can tell me^_^(L)Smile i think im only gonna stop reading it now. lol. ^_^ it's a great story^_^(L)^_^

~Josh~



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~Josh~
Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31900 is a reply to message #31899] Sun, 07 May 2006 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The story plan is easy

They will never part, except eventually in old age, from natural causes.

They will often fight. And, like guineapigs, have misunderstandings.

Chris will always be needy, but be the stronger of the two in reality. Nigel will always appear the stronger

They will be outed at school, probably as a part of what is refusing to be written in ch 3. How they cope depends on how the story goes.

Chris is oodles brighter than Nigel. He may make a bigtime university. Nigel may well have to read Sports management Wink It will be a different university.

Thatis where I want it to go and there are no spoilers in there. But, at present, I cannot write a decent paragraph about them, and I love them too much to write rubbish



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Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31936 is a reply to message #31900] Mon, 08 May 2006 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well your story is awesome^_^ *bows* i love it^_^ you've written it well^_^(L)

~Josh~



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~Josh~
Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31940 is a reply to message #31936] Mon, 08 May 2006 13:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I say this to many people. Some take up the challenge.

Anyone can write a story. Anyone can catch people's emotions. All(!) you have to do in order to do so is to allow the emotions to roll while you are writing, and to write them as you feel them, via your keyboard.

If you can capture emotions, and add in touch, taste, sight, hearing, scent, and place your charactwers in a situation you understand, even if you have never experienced it, and in a geography you know, though you may vary it to conceal it, then you have a story.

While writing, discard school english lessons.



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Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31944 is a reply to message #31940] Mon, 08 May 2006 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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im afraid to write it as i feel it tho. lol. im more of a romantic writer, and i express emotoins as i write.

~Josh~



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~Josh~
Re: Depends what you mean by homosexual.  [message #31945 is a reply to message #31944] Mon, 08 May 2006 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That is what it is all about.



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Poem and a Question^_^  [message #31996 is a reply to message #31792] Wed, 10 May 2006 02:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is a love that comes from deep in the heart. I think that most people only know this once in their lives. It is a feeling you will never have for another as far as how deep it goes. They story by Grasshopper (the Blink of an Eye) is a perfect example of this. Some people experience this and they reject it or get scared and push the one they love most away. some people cant feel what their hearts are telling them, this is a shame, cause two hearts meant for each other never bond. I think everyone knows when they have met that special someone, the one worth dieing for. I dont know if all humans have homosexual tendancies, but I know that the one you will love most doesnt have to be the other sex.



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Re: Poem and a Question^_^  [message #32004 is a reply to message #31996] Wed, 10 May 2006 12:56 Go to previous message
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I love someone. Someone very much. And she's a girl, but I still love her. I'm still a homosexual, I only love the one. And I don't find girls sexually attractive. I think everyone has someone they love with all their heart, and for me, it's someone I've never met, but someone I've given my heart to fully. I love her, and I always will..

~Josh~



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