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Another "Why" thought.  [message #32003] Wed, 10 May 2006 12:02 Go to next message
Josh is currently offline  Josh

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Today I write to you all to see, for something simple I suppose. It's another question why? I noticed i got quite a few replies from my last topic like this one, but anyway..

Why are we not "allowed" to be gay? If we are? And if we're bisexual, then why is it "wrong" to kiss someone of the same sex? I suppose it's okay for two girls to kiss in public, becuase its "cute" and people dont mind it, but if two males kiss in public, then it's morally wrong and disgusting. I'm just stating what I think here.

Are people gerderist or sexist or what? What is it that makes two males or two females kissing in public or anywhere else wrong? Does the public not want to see it? Are they disgusted by it? I saw on the Dr. Phil show once, that a boy at two years old had joined the ballet. His father was afraid that his son would "turn gay." You don't turn gay, you're born that way, and it's not until later that you discover that for yourself. I'm somewhat fed up by the fact that gays and bisexuals are getting beat up and called fagots and whatever else... WE'RE ALL THE SAME!... Our sexuality makes us no different then anyone else. It's a fact that you're born the way you are, and it shouldn't affect who you are, but it does..

I remember reading Chirs and Nigel (LOVE YOU TIMMY FOR WRITING THAT^_^) and I remember how Chris' mother flipped out at him and Nigel for being together when he told her about them. His father was okay with it completely, but his mother wasn't. She couldn't come to terms with it for some time, and Chris had to stay at Nigel's house.

I don't think your sexuality (something you CANNOT change) should have such a dramatic affect on others. Why do parents make a big deal about it anyway. If you are 13 and you decide to tell your parents that you're gay/bi/lesbian, and your parents flip at you for that, they have no reason to. They should know that you had the courage to tell them that, and lets face it, it does take a lot of guts to tell anyone that your "that way," and the parents should not flip at you for it..

I have a friend who I'm close to, and when he told his parents he was gay, his father forced him to sleep with a woman the very next day! So obviosuly he was not okay with it at all.

I know it's a real shocker to find out your child is "queer" or WTF ever else you wanna call it, but why do parents take such extreme measures to try to "fix things"? And why does the conservative government not accept that there is a gay/bi/lesbian community. (I did not mean what I said last time about they should kill us if we're so wrong, I was just angry.)..

Anyway, sorry for such a long post. I was checking my grammer this time. lol. I just wanted to say that. Yah. lol.

~Josh~



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~Josh~
The answers I can think of  [message #32008 is a reply to message #32003] Wed, 10 May 2006 13:52 Go to previous message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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Why is it okay for two women to kiss but not two men?

I think it all comes down to power. It doesn't matter if two women kiss, because they are the weaker sex, kissing is a girly thing anyway, and they don't threaten anyone's ideas of masculinity. (That's the logic, not what I actually think!) So while a person might dislike it, they find it easier to ignore.

On the other hand, two men kissing: well, men don't show affection in public (traditionally). Two men kissing threatens another man's ideas of what is proper masculine behaviour, and he feels threatened because he feels that those two men combined have a certain amount of authority that he, as just one person, lacks -- perhaps they will try to rape him or recruit him. (Rubbish, of course.) Also, he may have repressed thoughts tending towards homosexuality himself, and he is frustrated and angry when he sees that sort of behaviour in other people, because on some level he would like to be part of it. Finally, I hate to say it, but homosexual behaviour is associated with the "ugh" of anal sex and all those things that seem nasty to those who aren't familiar with them. Women don't have that problem, because they have vaginas.

So I think it's a number of reasons, some sexist, some practical, some unconscious.

>why does the conservative government not accept that there is a gay/bi/lesbian community.

I'm sorry that it doesn't in your country, but this does not apply in all countries, thank God. I think even our Conservative Party acknowledges that gay people exist, even though they haven't historically always been terribly friendly towards them.

>know it's a real shocker to find out your child is "queer" or WTF ever else you wanna call it, but why do parents take such extreme measures to try to "fix things"?

Homophobia. See the reasons above. They are scared of what they don't know, and disappointed because they think both their child and they have failed somehow. Also because they want a "normal" family, they want their child to be happy, and they want grandchildren. Of course, none of these are prevented by being gay, but it may not seem like that to homophobic people.

David
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