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Caption - poor man  [message #33809] Thu, 20 July 2006 18:51 Go to next message
kupuna is currently offline  kupuna

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I saw this last week. It is on display in the Tate Modern gallery in London.
Aaaawfully sorry, mate, I thought.
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Sorry, I don't understand it!
Re: ?  [message #33811 is a reply to message #33810] Thu, 20 July 2006 19:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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No, honestly -- does it have a title? Is it supposed to represent something?

I'm probably just being dim...
Re: ?  [message #33812 is a reply to message #33811] Thu, 20 July 2006 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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And here ladies and gentleman, we have the most wanted creature in the world, the man eatting chair.



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Sorry Deeej..  [message #33814 is a reply to message #33811] Thu, 20 July 2006 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kupuna is currently offline  kupuna

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I saw nothing to indicate what this is meant to be. What I saw were two balls but no man, and I'm absolutely sure that I've got the wrong idea. (It's down in the turbine hall, if you should wish to pop in and have a closer look.)
Re: Caption - poor man  [message #33815 is a reply to message #33809] Thu, 20 July 2006 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Appears to be a device to lock both chairs together.


Gary
Re: Caption - poor man  [message #33816 is a reply to message #33809] Thu, 20 July 2006 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually

It is an exhibit at the museum of modern ate because it demonstrates the modernest movement....

It's use of metal and plywood.... the fact that they stack, nested one atop the other....

Very efficient when storing.... good to look at..... and comfortable....

What more could an ass want?



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Re: Caption - poor man  [message #33817 is a reply to message #33809] Thu, 20 July 2006 21:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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I don't know what it is, but when the cat saw it he got up and quietly slipped out of the room.

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Re: Caption - poor man  [message #33818 is a reply to message #33816] Thu, 20 July 2006 22:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But if that's the case, what are the balls for?

David
Re: Caption - poor man  [message #33821 is a reply to message #33818] Thu, 20 July 2006 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian1407a is currently offline  Brian1407a

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I got it they are manly chairs



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Re: Caption - poor man  [message #33822 is a reply to message #33809] Thu, 20 July 2006 22:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There was a young man from Madras
Whose balls were made out of brass.
In thundery weather
The both clashed together
And sparks shot out of his arse



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Aaaaargh  [message #33824 is a reply to message #33821] Fri, 21 July 2006 00:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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Well, certainly one is a manly chair... The other chair doesn't seem to have any balls -- does that make it female?

Seriously, are they supposed to represent a male-female human couple? Am I reading things into this I shouldn't be?

Is the person who made it having the last laugh, because the representations exist only in the mind of the person who sees it? That sounds depressingly possible, but it must be such a common idea in modern art that it can't be an original one any more.

I suppose it could be an example of post-post-modernism, if such a thing exists: it relies on everyone thinking that it is meaningful, but actually it calls all our bluffs and making us believe it is meaningful soley by virtue of it being unlikely that it is not meaningful because meaning by virtue of meaninglessness is no longer an original idea.

Is there an article about it anywhere (esp. on the internet) to put me out of my misery?

David
Domestic Incidents ..  [message #33825 is a reply to message #33824] Fri, 21 July 2006 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kupuna is currently offline  kupuna

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Their webpage says this about the display called "Domestic Incidents":
http://www.tate.org.uk/modern/exhibitions/domesticincidents/default.shtm
Re: Aaaaargh  [message #33826 is a reply to message #33824] Fri, 21 July 2006 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, its just two chairs and bolos waitting to go back into storage.



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Those chairs bring back memories!  [message #33827 is a reply to message #33809] Fri, 21 July 2006 02:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They're just like the ones I used to sit on when I first began to work for the UK Government - and my colleagues and I were always expected to work our balls off!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Those chairs bring back memories!  [message #33832 is a reply to message #33827] Fri, 21 July 2006 03:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess it finnally happened



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Re: Caption - poor man  [message #33837 is a reply to message #33822] Fri, 21 July 2006 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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Oh well, if we're into limericks…

There was a young man of Devizes
Who had balls of two different sizes.
One ball was small,
Hardly a ball at all.
The other was large and won prizes.



I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.

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Re: Caption - poor man  [message #33943 is a reply to message #33809] Sun, 23 July 2006 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear Gary,
Thank you for your email enquiry regarding a work in our Domesic Incidents Exhibition
The work that you are referring to is by Richard Wentworth and is entitled Siege.
This can be viewed at http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ViewWork?workid=21789&searchid=30784
His biography can be found at: http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ArtistWorks?cgroupid=999999961&artistid=2132&page=1&sole=y&collab=y&attr=y&sort=default&tabview=bio
Many of Wentworth's sculptures bring together everyday objects in witty and often unsettling combinations. He collects discarded objects which he gathers in his studio until they unexpectedly prompt a new idea. His choice of titles reflect a similar wit.
The following is from the caption display:
The title of this sculpture is a word play that refers to the French word for seat (siège) as well as the English idea of being under siege. Wentworth usually uses common objects and easily available materials in his sculptures. These are combined a manner that appears natural while indicating extraordinary functions or activities. He has suggested that one might think that the laminated chairs in 'Siege' come ready-fitted with the pulleys, even though they have no obvious use. The chairs are united by the cable threaded through their seats, from which hang two lead balls. The artist has described that 'all they can do is roll against each other. Like a gaucho's bolas, one chair ensnares the other'.
(From the display caption August 2004)
I hope that this is helpful to you.
Regards,
Joanna Selcott
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Tate Modern
Re: Caption - poor man  [message #33959 is a reply to message #33943] Mon, 24 July 2006 00:12 Go to previous message
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I think I like the idea of one being a male chair and the other a female.

Does this mean the chairs are engaged in.....

Quick! Put a screen round them for modesty's sake. ;-D
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