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Whats the deal? Timmy goes away for a few days and everybody has nothing to say.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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cossie
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... I suppose that Timmy isn't the only one on holiday. We know that JFR is ill, and Deeej tells me he's pretty busy at the moment. On top of that, the Middle East situation is dominating the news and is squeezing out other items we might have talked about.
I suppose I could write a dissertation about the origin of the semicolon, or the therapeutic properties of malt whisky, or even the part played by the hamburger in the decline of Western civilisation - but somehow I doubt whether any of those subjects would provoke much of a response!
Have you got any ideas for a topic to keep us going?
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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Gee, must have taken you a while to recover from the birthday bash.
Never known you to be stuck for words before so go right ahead.
We're all listening.
Aussie :-/
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marc
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Brian1407a wrote:
> Whats the deal? Timmy goes away for a few days and everybody has nothing to say.
Why does anyone need to feel compelled to say anything?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I never have anything to say even when Timmy is here.
Hugs
Nigel
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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cossie
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... depends upon participants saying something - without regular posting it has no real purpose. If we were all gathered in a room together, we could contemplate our navels in companionable silence, but companionable silence doesn't work on the net!
So, really, if we get something out of participating on the board, we should be prepared to make an extra effort to put something in when activity is low.
I'm not getting at you, Marc - you've contributed a highly relevant thread!
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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cossie
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.... but only because you spend all your time practising your 'grumpy old man' act!
You're doing very well, by the way!
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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I try my best, Cossie.
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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marc
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Needs to get a life! |
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kind of messageboard should noy have to feel compeled to post just to augment someone elses involvment.
To imply that posting is compulsary or even expected makes it all feel like a chore that needs to be done.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I have to give you credit Nigel, yo do have the grumpy old man thing down pretty good.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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cossie
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Location: Exiled in North East Engl...
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... if we see this message board as any sort of helpful resource, we should acknowledge some sort of obligation in return.
Some folks devote their lives to helping others - and sometimes they can be a pain in the butt - but Marc's post seems to me to imply that, although the board is beneficial to him, he feels no sense of obligation to the board and to others who benefit from it.
That's something I find difficult to understand.
For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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I agree. This is one of the reasons that I have not been around here lately: I think it is wrong to post something and then not to be around to relate to the responses.
And let us not forget that there are many people who visit this board because they are lonely or who feel in some way or other isolated: they need the constant stream of give and take in order to experience that sense of 'belonging' which is one of the greatest schievements of this message board. Vive la correspondance!
From my own culture: there was a great rabbi over 1600 years ago who said it succinctly: human contact or death.
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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marc
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It is just that when I see a post like.....
"Whats the deal? Timmy goes away for a few days and everybody has nothing to say."
I get the feeling that I (extended to we) are performing like trained monkeys to entertain the request.
This tends to irk me to a bit of a degree.
Are we expected to allow real time life to sit by the wayside while we attend to our online obligations to post and reply?
That is not to say that I don't post. It just says that I don't like feeling an obligatiom to perform.
Also, it seems that it is the yungens that every so often make this request and I know it is from inexperience that they do it.... If they want interaction then they should post something of interest, something that would spark interaction with the potential for expansive conversation.
As far as my having an obligation to the board and to the others who (may or may not) benefit from it..... Now that is an interesting notion..... As I see it, obligation is a by-product of familiarity..... As far as the board goes I feel more apart from it than a part of it..... When I do post I do so because I have something to say, not out of some altruistic expectation of saving the queer world from utter dispair.....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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marc
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JFR wrote:
> I agree. This is one of the reasons that I have not been around here lately: I think it is wrong to post something and then not to be around to relate to the responses.
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> And let us not forget that there are many people who visit this board because they are lonely or who feel in some way or other isolated: they need the constant stream of give and take in order to experience that sense of 'belonging' which is one of the greatest schievements of this message board. Vive la correspondance!
For some this online interaction has the potential to reinforce a feeling of separation and isolation. This place to some can be more of a trap than a panaseia.
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> From my own culture: there was a great rabbi over 1600 years ago who said it succinctly: human contact or death.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Marc wrote:
For some this online interaction has the potential to reinforce a feeling of separation and isolation. This place to some can be more of a trap than a panaseia.
Marc, I really do not understand the logic of your comment. If someone finds that "this online interaction" is hurtful for them they will just stop their participation - be they a poster or a lurker. They may stop for a day or a week or however long they feel the need, or even stop altogether, but only a masochist would continue to participate when the participation constantly gave them negative reactions.
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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Ill fix ytour problem Marc. This yungun wont post anymore.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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You know Marc, You leave the inpression that you dont want younger (teenagers) posting in here. I dont know why you would feel that way or to singele me out, but you have. Ive been nothing but a friend to you, but it seems you dont want that. My post was in jest and at no time was your name brought into it. If I had wanted to insult or irritate you I would have put your name formost. You know me well enough to know I dont mince words. Im sorry you feel the way you do, I dont know why your so bitter. It seems that the only way I can remidy the situation, since you have made it a personal attack on me, is to stop posting so it wont upset your delicate balance.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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I think that this is the type of discussion that Timmy wished us to avoid. One that any of us takes personal offence to and feels the need to express it.
Gary
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there is no reason why you should stop posting here. If you should choose to do so I, for one, will be very sad. I also agree with NavyOne that probably the best thing we could do now is to let this thread die the death. (Like wars, you know how a thread starts but you can never be sure how it will end.)
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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Thank you, Marc. I suppose it's perfectly okay with all the rest of us that we are going to be deprived of Brian's contributions.
(For those unable to see it, there is a touch of irony in this statement. Please don't take it literally.)
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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Jedediah
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Location: Made in NZ
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.. with Nigel.
E Te Atua tukuna mai ki au te Mauri tauki te tango i nga mea
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marc
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It realy is quite simple...
Too much online interaction in the place of real time interaction is not alltogether beneficial.....
Real time life has to take the lead and online diversions has to come second...
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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marc
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Needs to get a life! |
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That is rediculous....
And you know it....
Reread what I said....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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marc
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Needs to get a life! |
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Brian1407a wrote:
> You know Marc, You leave the inpression that you dont want younger (teenagers) posting in here. I dont know why you would feel that way or to singele me out, but you have. Ive been nothing but a friend to you, but it seems you dont want that. My post was in jest and at no time was your name brought into it. If I had wanted to insult or irritate you I would have put your name formost. You know me well enough to know I dont mince words. Im sorry you feel the way you do, I dont know why your so bitter. It seems that the only way I can remidy the situation, since you have made it a personal attack on me, is to stop posting so it wont upset your delicate balance.
Well, for one thing I didnt single out anyone.... I refered to your origional post as it was current and then I made furthur referance to the fact that your post was not by far the first of it's kind.
Did I mention any names? No I didn't....
Did I make anything personal? No I didn't....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I thought we had beat this horse to death. Never kick a sleepong dog. ime for a new topic. This thred is dead fred.
Gary
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This forum gets quiet every year when Timmy is on vacation. More going on this year than most, and it looks like you guys are doing a real good job of tearing each other apart. What's that all about anyhow?
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Hi Brian and everyone else,
My apologies for my unexplained absence. I disappeared off early on Wednesday morning for an annual family gathering of my mother's family in County Donegal, Ireland. Had a lovely time surfing, sailing, drinking, singing etc. I spent much of the time feeling very guilty for not having posted a proper message on here to explain, if that's any consolation!
Ireland is a beautiful country, if rather cold. It rained every day. Trip back was a bit annoying as the security staff confiscated my newspaper three times. Newspapers are now officially Weapons of Mass Destruction, along with books, combs, pens and glasses cases, and woe betide anyone who tries to take one on an aeroplane.
I'm back now, currently dealing with a huge backlog of email. Will read back and try and post on all the current threads as soon as possible.
Best wishes to all,
Deeej
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