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My parents.  [message #34810] Sat, 26 August 2006 00:18 Go to next message
ZeroGrav is currently offline  ZeroGrav

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They just asked if wanted any thing from sonic I said no. Which is odd for me. So they stated he got a gf. All I could do was lol. Only if they knew. They know I get back in to shape for swim every year. But even then I would have said yes. Now when I say get back in to shape I lose about 5 pounds and tone my legs arm. But even with the 5 pounds I am still in more shape then most of my friends. Well I'm going to stop typing I'm starting to brag. sorry



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Excuse my geriatric ignorance ...  [message #34813 is a reply to message #34810] Sat, 26 August 2006 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... but who (or what) is sonic? Your parents asked "if you wanted anything from sonic". The only 'Sonic' I know of is the hedgehog star of a series of computer games, but he doesn't seem to fit the bill. Please do your bit to educate the elderly and infirm!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Excuse my geriatric ignorance ...  [message #34815 is a reply to message #34813] Sat, 26 August 2006 00:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sonic is like Wendeys. But its the best. Yall don't have a sonic. I feel sorry for you all.



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Re: Excuse my geriatric ignorance ...  [message #34816 is a reply to message #34815] Sat, 26 August 2006 00:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here there website
http://www.sonicdrivein.com/index.jsp



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Another thing  [message #34820 is a reply to message #34816] Sat, 26 August 2006 00:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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Hi Jason,

I'm a bit confused as well.

>So they stated he got a gf.

Who's 'he'? And why did they bring up the subject at all?

Sorry!

David
Re: Another thing  [message #34822 is a reply to message #34820] Sat, 26 August 2006 01:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No problem he is a guy that I work with and I get a feeling that I have never had about any one before. He is the boy that most my post have been about. Until I know he is not gay or has no intrest in me. Theres no need for any one else.


My parents have no clue that I'm gay they thick I just shy.
They think be gay is a sickness so they won't know for a long time.



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
OK. educate us some more ...  [message #34827 is a reply to message #34822] Sat, 26 August 2006 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... bearing in mind that we're deprived because we don't have Sonic drive-ins!

Why would your 'rents mention that 'Sonic' had a girl-friend?

We Brits aren't normally so dense, but hey, you're challenging us here!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: OK. educate us some more ...  [message #34834 is a reply to message #34827] Sat, 26 August 2006 03:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Has nothing much to do with sonic to say. Its more that I'm more on my workout and cal intake then I have been in the past. So they fig that I had some one important in my life.(gf) But I'm hopeing it to be more like a bf.



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Re: OK. educate us some more ...  [message #34882 is a reply to message #34834] Sat, 26 August 2006 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Man I \\feel so sorry for guys that have to work out and diet. I eat like a horse and I cant gain weight at all.



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Re: OK. educate us some more ...  [message #34884 is a reply to message #34882] Sat, 26 August 2006 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ZeroGrav is currently offline  ZeroGrav

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It funny I have not worked out scince last summer and only but 5lb of fat and only 1% of body fat. that puts me 13% the avg amric is 30%



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Re: OK. educate us some more ...  [message #34887 is a reply to message #34834] Sat, 26 August 2006 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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Jason we are SO going to have to remove your pronouns!

"he's got a g/f" means "Jason's got a g.f"



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Re: OK. educate us some more ...  [message #34901 is a reply to message #34884] Sun, 27 August 2006 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Im crushed, I dont have any body fat.



I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........

Affirmation........Savage Garden
Re: Excuse my geriatric ignorance ...  [message #34903 is a reply to message #34813] Sun, 27 August 2006 03:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Let me see if I can translate.

Jason's parents asked him if he wanted anything from the local fast-food joint. He replied no. Somehow, they took this to mean that maybe there was someone special in Jason's life at the moment, which there isn't. They don't know he's gay, in fact they find it wrong, and believe he's only shy.
Re: OK. educate us some more ...  [message #34907 is a reply to message #34901] Sun, 27 August 2006 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I HASTE U! LOL:-()



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Re: OK. educate us some more ...  [message #34908 is a reply to message #34887] Sun, 27 August 2006 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I write most my post I have just woke up or its 1:30am and going to bed. I am bascly a sleep. So I am sorry I will try better next time



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Re: Excuse my geriatric ignorance ...  [message #34909 is a reply to message #34903] Sun, 27 August 2006 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That would be right



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Re: OK. educate us some more ...  [message #34914 is a reply to message #34901] Sun, 27 August 2006 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brian, you can have all my body fat. I don't want it.

Hugs
N



I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.

…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
Re: My parents.  [message #35135 is a reply to message #34810] Sat, 02 September 2006 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have stated in another post I am out of town on a family trip to my coz wedding. so my whole family is here. And man I wish I was any where but here.

First all the questions "Do you have a G/F"

Then comes the jokes Like today my uncle with me, my dad, and brother was talking about how I don't have a g\\f and says "Oh he will have a good catch and I think we will all like him" he was joking trying to be an ass. but it hurt. and all I could do was lol and die a little in side. once I am done with collage I am cutting almost all my ties with my family. I hate my family.



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Re: My parents.  [message #35139 is a reply to message #35135] Sat, 02 September 2006 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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The challenge is that everyone is assumed to be heterosexual.

A decent answer to the "do you have a g/f" question is "not at the moment" and a smile. If pressed then just ask if they have anyone in mind and smile again. Just do not get riled over it.

Weddings are a great place for murder! Or at least thoughts of murder.

One family wedding I went to I was sleeping there the night before. I was "berthed" in a VW Microbus with a very very cute cousin indeed. I was so nearly tempted.

Odd, coz he and I are the only normal ones in the family. He dresses in ladies' cloting (and has a business uplling it) and I am the gay one. All the others are very heteroseual and ordinary.



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
icon9.gif Re: Excuse my geriatric ignorance ...  [message #35140 is a reply to message #34815] Sat, 02 September 2006 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We don't even have a Wendy's in my area!

I stopped at a Wendy's while on the road several years back, and the food hands down had McDonald's beaten by a country mile. I often see their ads on TV showing how they're open late at night, and lament that the closest one is a good half hour drive away.

I've never seen a Sonic; but if I do, I'll definitely give it a try.



We do not remember days...we remember moments.

Cesare Pavese
Re: My parents.  [message #35141 is a reply to message #35135] Sat, 02 September 2006 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>my dad, and brother was talking about how I don't have a g\\f and says "Oh he will have a good catch and I think we will all like him" <

I don't know how much of a sense of humour your family has, but here was an opportunity to joke along with them, perhaps telling your brother he's not getting his hands on him, either.

You would have opened the closet door a fraction, been honest with them in a way that they wouldn't have believed you and been able to watch their reaction.

Hugs
Nigel



I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.

…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
Re: My parents.  [message #35142 is a reply to message #35141] Sat, 02 September 2006 20:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nigel wrote:
> You would have opened the closet door a fraction, been honest with them in a way that they wouldn't have believed you and been able to watch their reaction.

That wonderful weapon, The Truth, and used in such a manner that no-one can believe it!



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
Re: My parents.  [message #35144 is a reply to message #35135] Sat, 02 September 2006 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nobody hates their family more than I do. I cant even begine to tell you what its like. When I graduate from HS, im leaving and going to school in Britain. If I will completely cut ties with my family I dont know. I do want you to think about this tho. dont be too quick to cut all your ties. does your brother hate you? Is he mean to you, other than just being a brother? You know the old saying, blood is thicker than water. What I would do, and hope you will think about this, when your ready, tell your family your gay, depending on how they react, is how I would determine my course. If your brother decides he cant deal, then cut the ties, but always leave a door open, he might come to his senses. Deal with each person in the family individually. I have extra special reasons for cutting off my family, but it will still be hard, it will probably be the hardest thing I ever do. I just know I have friends here who will be there to hold me up when I do. dont be too quick to burn your bridges, you might have to cross back over.



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Re: My parents.  [message #35148 is a reply to message #35144] Sun, 03 September 2006 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your right never shut the door completely. As I read your post it took me back to the day in 1969 when we picked my brother up from the airport, he had just returning from Viet Nam; I had long hair of course and wore very tight hip huggers. He said nothing at the airport of course but before going out to celebrate his safe return he made a very derogatory comment about the way I was dressed referring to it as being very gay looking, he didn’t use that phrase, I really can’t remember if he said faggot or queer, but it was couched in a very unkind way. I mean I was really hurt; my sexuality was really the last thing on my mind. I had just spent the better part of a year fearing for my brothers’ life. I very much loved my brother and family even though my sexuality was very well known but was always the proverbial elephant in the living room.
The main thing is I never let that color how I felt about them even though it made me in effect the odd man out. I can tell you being the third boy of questionable sexuality out of four kids in the 60’s made for a very weird dynamic. No, no violence or outward hostility just made for a strange environment by comparison. To this day there is no contact unless I make it or one of the family dies and it was two months before I was contacted by my sister in law to let me know our father had passed.
The main thing here is that no matter what, my love will always be unconditional, I will not allow my standards of humanity be degraded despite any lack of empathy for who or what I am.
Altruistic? Maybe, but no matter how unattainable we need a standard to shot for. I decided long ago that I would never let others attitudes about my sexuality, or anything else, dictate who I am.
As I always like to say “I like who I am becoming”. After all it’s the only thing we really have control over



People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm
Re: My parents.  [message #35157 is a reply to message #35148] Sun, 03 September 2006 12:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The main thing here is that no matter what, my love will always be unconditional, I will not allow my standards of humanity be degraded despite any lack of empathy for who or what I am.
Altruistic? Maybe, but no matter how unattainable we need a standard to shot for. I decided long ago that I would never let others attitudes about my sexuality, or anything else, dictate who I am.


I think that what you say is what it takes to retain one's sense of human dignity. Other people can do a lot of damage, but as long as we stay focused on the things you mention, we'll survive. If we succumb to bitterness and hatred we are the ones to be bitten by it. Until her last living day my mother was never willing to admit any wrongdoing of any kind. I never hated her, we never got close enough for that. Thinking of her fills me with pity and sadness.

I like what you like to say, “I like who I am becoming”. Funny, that's exactly what I feel after, at long last, having come out to myself and some of my best friends.
Re: My parents.  [message #35183 is a reply to message #35144] Mon, 04 September 2006 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I love my family but they hate what I'm just to day My whole family was sitting around and talking. Grandparents the works. The weekend In New Orleance is a gay pride thing. well my aunt is mad that they (my aunt) picked the same weekend as them.(or should I say us.) so that hurt. but what drove a nail therow the coffin was there is a week in june/july that (we the gay's as she stated) Go to disney world. she then stated how discusting that was and that we shold be ashamed of it. (by the way no one knows but you all.)



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Re: My parents.  [message #35187 is a reply to message #35183] Mon, 04 September 2006 02:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thats a peace of cake compaired to my family. My grandfather told my mom she should buy me dolls cause I was never gonna be a man. My grandmother flat out told me I should have been aborted and they had begged my mom to do just that. If you think what your rents and family are saying hurts, Ill trade. Im not saying you dont have stress and its unkind for them to say things like that, but its because of ignorance. sometimes with a lot of luck and patience people start seeing that they are wrong, you can always hope for that. a rent should love their child unconditionally. My family is an exception, they only love themselves. hang in there things will get better. Smile, be happy with yourself.



I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........

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Re: My parents.  [message #35189 is a reply to message #35187] Mon, 04 September 2006 02:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am happy with my self. and also sad for you. I'm sorry about your family. but I fear my grandparent will react the same way.



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Re: My parents.  [message #35190 is a reply to message #35189] Mon, 04 September 2006 03:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your rents and your grands dont have to know, your sexuality is your business. If you do chose to tell them be prepared to take the results, but dont let them beat you down. You have to live your life, they cant live it for you and you dont have to mold to what they want. Smile, nod and go about your business.



I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........

Affirmation........Savage Garden
Re: My parents.  [message #35195 is a reply to message #35183] Mon, 04 September 2006 07:30 Go to previous message
timmy

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There is something about your grandparents' generation, which is my parents' generation that you need to factor in to this.

They never had gay people around when they grew up. It was not spoken about and relationships were hidden. "Two gentlemen, sharing" and "A lady's companion" were ok, because sex was never even considered. Accordingly they are wholly in experienced in homosexuality and have only learned about it from the media.

Their children, the homosexual ones, married and had families. Homosexuality simply did not exist for that generation of parents and grandparents.

And then Gay Lib adopted the word "gay" that they had used to mean "happy" or "jolly", and they resented the hijacking of the word.

Add that to the fact, for it was fact then, that homosexuality wa an illness, to be cured, and you start to see where they are coming from. They had no need to learn to accept it or even understand it. If it appeared it was cured, like tuberculosis.

So it is easy to see why old folks resent "ill people" taking over "their cities" for parades.

Just allow them their eccentricities.



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