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timmy
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On the 15th I have to go into hospital for minor knee surgery. On friday they tested a cup of wee for sugar and I was off the scale. Blood test yesterday says probably diabetes, so I have more tests to come to determine whether I am or am not diabetic.
OK, it's pretty small beer nowadays. Pretty much everyone who has it lives a wholly normal life, and I have yet to learn whether I am insulin dependent or can manage it with diet. It's just a shock and a stressful period.
I know I have to lose weight. Dammit why do we do these things too late? I've started (again) losing weight, it just seems that whatever it was has been triggered, and there is no untriggering it.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Sorry to hear that, timmy - hope it turns out that you can manage things with diet. And all the best for 15th - is it in-patient, or keyhole/day surgery?
> I know I have to lose weight. Dammit why do we do these things too late?
Prevarication is a natural human urge! And if it's a question of stopping or cutting down on things we really enjoy, so much the worse. (Which is why I was a smoker for many years ... and now I've stopped, I'm on a cholesterol-control diet & pills and *still* putting on weight: I can't resist my own cooking!)
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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Is keyhole, and likely to need to be postponed because raised blood sugar makes healing harder.
I'll live 
I adore food, too.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Sorry to hear that.
If you don't mind, whats the knee surgry for.
To lighen thing up a bit. On the losing weight. I'll see you at the gym.
timmy wrote:
"Speaking as the hairy fat guy, whos is trying to be the svelte hairy guy, we like looking at you cute guys. Leave us our incentive to go to the gym!"
Just remimber to share the view. LOL
But I hope you can control it with diet and excercise.
Hey I love to eat food too.
So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
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Tim, don't panic. It's prolly diabetes 2 and if not too severe, all you will need to do is lose weight, cut out all sugar and sweet things. If you need insulin, that's not too much of a problem these days either, so don't stress yourself.
Just about the same day I turned 40, I was diagnosed with diabetes 2, glaucoma, high blood-pressure, depression and i needed spectacles! apart from that, everything in the garden's dandy! The diabetes is no big deal.
Get your knee sorted, take it easy, lose the weight, you'll be fine.
As ever, love from a cold climate,
Spunky
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timmy
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I know it is not the end of the world. In the global scheme of things it;s trivial. It is just that it is a shock, as I am sure you recognise
Once the shock passes (Hmm, no hot sweet tea, then?) I will be easioy abole to make the chnages. It grieves me that I wl need to drink aspartame sweeteend drinks if I choose them, though, since it is a known carcinogen.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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I have a torn medial cartilege meniscus, no idea how or why it is injured, but unjured it is. Had the other knee done a few years back after I was run over by some bastard who did it on purpose.
The really odd thing is that I am not that fat. So many fatter people have no trouble with diabetes. Ah well. I ownder if it's the same gene that makes us gay?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Sorry to hear about the impending surgery and diabetes. I believe you can do a fair bit of self help in regard to the diabetes to turn it around. It revolves around getting toxins out of the system and eating mainly natural foods not factory manufactured ones. It's no coincidence that the world is going through the biggest epidemic of diabetes ever and it is still getting worse. I can email you more details and books to read if you are interested (websites too).
Good luck with the surgery
Aussie
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timmy
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It's just that today is the "shock day". Hugs you for the kind thoughts
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Tim,
I'm sorry to hear about your medical problems -- I am not surprised they are causing you stress. Good luck with the surgery, and good luck with your diabetes tests.
I am not sure if diabetes runs in families, but my grandfather had it in old age, so if there is a chance I'll get it I expect I will at some point. Is there any way of preventing it from happening (apart from eating a reasonable diet, etc.)?
Incidentally, I have found an excellent way of dieting: having to cook for myself. By the end of a university term I'm about a stone lighter than I was at the beginning. Not sure if that'll help you, though, as I suspect you are an excellent cook.
Aren't there quite a few alternatives to aspartame, these days?
Tea tastes much better without sugar, anyway. Especially Earl Grey. Dash of milk. No sugar. Mmm.
David
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timmy
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I never take sugar in tea. Seems such a waste now
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Aussie
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I am sure that one of the commandments says thou shalt not drink aspartame sweetened drinks. Deeej will probably know.
It's only me from downunder 
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Jeez, for a Brit you sure drink your tea like an American.
Green tea, Splenda (which is sucralose, not aspartame), no milk. No milk in tea, ever. Bastardization of the beautiful substance.
(Can you tell I don't like coffee?)
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I drink my tea like an American?
I will excuse you, Adam -- as a foreigner you evidently don't realise how grave an insult that is!
The classic way to drink tea in the UK is:
- water instantly boiled, poured into a warmed teapot, preferably with leaf tea, but a teabag is acceptable in most circumstances
- left standing for 5 minutes
- served in a cup or mug with a little milk
- consumed while very hot
- (a matter of opinion: definitely no sugar. Sugar really ruins the taste, especially that of delicate China tea like Earl Grey; you may get away with it, just about, with strong Indian tea)
I have not yet come across anyone who drinks Earl Grey with lemon but no milk; allegedly these people exist, but it is not conventional.
Green tea is entirely different, and served differently, without milk, but I'm not talking about that. It's not classic English tea.
I could live without coffee, though I do drink it from time to time; I could not live without tea (Earl Grey, preferably).
David
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Lucky I don't obey the 10 commandments!
I drink altogether too much Diet Coke.
David
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I dont like coffee, but I do like tea. I drink Earl Grey with milk and a bit of sugar (sorry Deeej). I like other teas too. I love ice tea and I never use instant. They have a new green tea out in a bottle. Nestea has some out with peach flavor but I dont like that. a company called Orient has green tea out in a bottle with citrus flavor and it is real good. the only tea I drink hot is Earl Grey. Only thing I can figure out is the British coming out in me.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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Please be ok Timmy. If you do have diabeties, its not all that bad, you just got to take care of yourself. Best of luck with the operation.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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Brian said:
>the only tea I drink hot is Earl Grey. Only thing I can figure out is the British coming out in me.
No problem there, Brian -- I'll accept anyone who likes hot Earl Grey as an honorary Englishman.
David
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Timmy, don't jump the gun with the water test. Over the past couple of months two of the doctors in my practice were concerned with the amount of sugar in my water. I've had all the tests and no diabetes. My own doc said that sugar in the water is a pretty useless way of testing for diabetes.
Good luck with the operation.
Hugs
N
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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jhawk
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Location: England
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sorry to here about the pending operation, these days they are very clever with key hole surgery. if we are over weight we run the risk of diabetis & heart desease etc.
It takes a shock to change our life style i know from experience.
But it is never too late to change oh i forgot stress is at number one.
good luck i know you will be just fine.
what goes up must come down ?
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timmy
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The gun is not jumped. There is a scale for blood sugar. >7 = diabetes. I am 9.7. So mild and caught early (if that makes a difference).
Diet is likely to treat it, together with exercise (which the ned for surgery prevents, pretty much, at present.
With raised blood sugare bad cholesterol and triglycerides are up and good cholesterol is down. So that has to be corrected as well.
So exercise, low carb, low fat (olive oil only), high protein and Benecol to alter the cholesterol profile. an dprobably cut out or down on alcohol and sugar.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Hi Charlie,
Just a tip -- please could you keep an eye on what you are replying to? If you look at the structure of the thread, you'll notice that you replied to me, but the content of your post was to Timmy.
The easiest way to do it is to visit the post that is most relevant to your reply (probably the top one, Timmy's original post), and click "Reply" there.
Many other forums don't have such an intelligent nested structure, so you might not have been aware of it.
Thanks,
David
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The habit in Afghanistan is serve a pot of green tea, and a glass half-full of sugar.
You pour the first glassful as soon as it arrives. When you've drunk half a glass of astoundingly-sweet tea, you top up the glass from the teapot ... with tea that is rather stronger. Once you've drunk half of this, you again top up from the teapot. And so on, for about six glasses. By which time the green tea is rather stewed, and mouth-puckeringly strong.
When travelling the hippy trail,it was a major culture-change from the tea served in chai-shops in much of India and Pakistan: a few leaves of black tea are put into a conical metal vessel on a long handle, condensed milk (or occasionally water-buffalo milk & sugar) are addeed, and the metal vessel is put into a brazier til it boils.
I am currently trying to cut sugar out of hot drinks ... but that first mug of strong coffee is unbeearable without it, and I simply don't function without a pint of coffee inside me!
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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Jedediah
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Sorry to hear about your problems timmy, hope it all goes well for you. I feel a bit out of place here - never had a lot to do with doctors. I think there was one around when i was born, but that's about it really.
Best wishes anyway
E Te Atua tukuna mai ki au te Mauri tauki te tango i nga mea
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Mwahhhhhhhhhh, thanks Deeej
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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whew, Im glad I dont live in Afganistan. Those dudes must have a high rate of type2 diabeties.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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The kidneys filter out excess substances from the blood. You would be amazed at what all the kidneys control. There are two ways to measure kidney function and one is the amount of protien the kidneys are dumping, another is the amount of sugar they are dumping, another test is the amount of Creatnin in the blood. I have anemia and its because my kidneys dont produce the enzyme that triggers the bone marrow to produce red blood cells. I have to give myself shots of EPOGEN. Nigel is absolutely right about the sugar in your urine. If the blood has too much simple sugar the kidneys will flush it out. A good blood test is much better. They also have a pill that can regulate your insulin and you wont need the shot.
I believe in Karma....what you give is what you get returned........
Affirmation........Savage Garden
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jhawk
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Thanks for the info i am a slow learner.:-/
what goes up must come down ?
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timmy
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Well, I am coming to terms with being faulty
It's been a pretty crap week, though. Yesterday nmorning we had to have Cherry, one of my two remaining cats, put to sleep. Her sister Bramble remains. So we buried her yesterday morning. All in all I have had what might be termed "a fucking stressful 7 days" since I learnt of raised sugar levels last friday morning.
To be fair there is not a huge lot I need to do in order to get well again.
Lower carbs and raise proteins. Cut right down on sugars (but avoid aspartame), cut fats own except olive oil (we ony ever cook with olive oil anyway), and add in Benecol to my diet. Plus lose weight.
On the plus side I gained a new friend by email, a mother of an 8 and a 6 year old. I have already made sure she will be gay friendly and make sure they know it.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Aussie
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Hi Timmy
Sorry to hear about your fu****g stressful week. Having a pet put to sleep is one of the most stressful things. Our thoughts are with you on that score and time will heal it somewhat.
You seem to have come to terms pretty quickly on the sugar and you know exactly what needs to be done. It can be turned around if you do the right things and maybe it's a sufficient shock to motivate you to lose some weight.
I am trying to do the same thing before I get the bad news but it is amazing how easily one can make excuses to skip the exercise or eat a cake. Try and get some vitamin D which is supposed to help with diabetes, stress and depression. The good thing is it's free from the sun. I try and get my daily dose of it and enjoy it too.
Hope things improve soon
Must go, having pizza (the devil made me do it)
Aussie
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timmy
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Oh it will get better. But we are unsure of the health of our remaining cat.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Sorry to hear all that. I have dog that just turns 16 this year. I hope he makes it to his birthday this year. I know kinda how you feel about your second cat. How long did you have the cats.
So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
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timmy
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We had them from the moment they were born for just over 18 years. They are (well one now "was") old cats, but in good condition, though obviously unwell.
I just love them
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I got my curent dog when i was 3 I love him. But I Know his time is short.
So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
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timmy
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The hard bit is knowing that it is time. We do know. But it is hard when we do
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Captain Jean-Luc Picard is alive and well, and living at "A Place of Safety"!
I love Earl Grey iced, too (especially on a beastly hot day). There used to be a restaurant near where I attend concerts during the summer that served the most delicious food, especially their French onion soup and Earl Grey iced tea. Many was the time (and this is no exxageration) that lunch consisted of the onion soup and at least a half-dozen glasses of that iced tea.
I think I'll go make some now. Have your glasses ready, everybody!
We do not remember days...we remember moments.
Cesare Pavese
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You are very lucky, Jason!
We have had a number of labradors, all labrador bitches (except for a young English bull terrier bitch we have at the moment). None of them have reached 12. The first one I knew, the same age as me, died at 8.
We currently have an elderly labrador of 11. She will be 12 in October. I am not convinced she is going to make it -- she is very lame, short of breath, and had a tumour in her spleen a year ago which almost killed her: it may well return.
All animals die. If the quality of life is very poor, it's better to have them put down humanely. In the meantime, enjoy their company. I'm more philosophical about it than I used to be.
David
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I've always avoided iced tea. That is probably because I have a huge aversion to tea that has been forgotten about, or left in the pot a while, and is lukewarm, or even (ugh, I shiver at the thought) room temperature. A few unfortunate incidents along those lines have traumatised me for life.
Perhaps I need to find a young American who will introduce me to it...
David
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I can remember throwing away an unfinished can of iced tea in the Hauptstrasse in Zurich many years ago, into a litter bin, naturally, before any Swiss get upset. I've never touched it since.
Hugs
N
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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Sorry about your medical condition, Timmy! I hope that your operation goes well, and that if you do have diabetes, you can still live a very normal life.
I'm also sorry about your cat. Putting a pet animal down due to age or sickness is very hard, even if it is the best for the animal. Cats and dogs are family members for real and we grow very attached to them.
I'm glad to hear about your new friend! Good friends are indispensable, and I think we need them more than most people.
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