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so tired  [message #36611] Thu, 05 October 2006 12:01 Go to next message
ZeroGrav is currently offline  ZeroGrav

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my hurt hurts bad feels on fire. no sleep. so tired



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Umm ...  [message #36650 is a reply to message #36611] Fri, 06 October 2006 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... what's the hurt? I thought you were happy.



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: so tired  [message #36657 is a reply to message #36611] Fri, 06 October 2006 03:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sorry have not slep much of late. it should have said
my arm hurts bad. feels like it is on fire. no sleep for me. so tired



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
OK - I accept that ....  [message #36658 is a reply to message #36657] Fri, 06 October 2006 04:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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.... what'cha been doing with your arm?



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: OK - I accept that ....  [message #36660 is a reply to message #36658] Fri, 06 October 2006 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Get your mind out of the gutter.

Broke my elbow about from the joint to about 3in towards my hand about a year and half ago. It healed great except for one piece that grew in to the joint a 1.5mm hook that has carved a channel in the cartilage in my elbow. You have two sets of nerve clusters one on top and the other on the bottom.
The bottom set is referred to as your funny bone. Well that grove is allowing the nerves to slip in and get pinched and twisted. Which is very painful plus the nerves become agitated and cause even more problems. When the elbow is resting on some thing

I have meds but I don't go near them cause I to scared too.
And it hard to sleep cause your arm is resting. So sleep of late has only been coming in short hour burst. Or I pass out from lack of sleep.

Jay



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Sorry to hear about your problem, Jay ....  [message #36695 is a reply to message #36660] Sat, 07 October 2006 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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.... and if your meds are powerful painkillers or sleep-inducers I can understand why they make you nervous, though most modern drugs are much less likely to become addictive than the drugs in use a few years ago.

Even if you want to keep off those meds, don't overlook everyday painkillers like paracetamol or ibuprofen. They work pretty well, and are as near as dammit risk-free if you stick to the recommended dose.

Is there no possibility of minor surgery to correct the problem?



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Sorry to hear about your problem, Jay ....  [message #36696 is a reply to message #36695] Sat, 07 October 2006 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It’s not the addiction I scared of. I’m scared I might do... some thing I might regret. And I got some one to look forward to and I am not taking any chances.



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Oh, it's the temptation to overdose, then ....  [message #36702 is a reply to message #36696] Sat, 07 October 2006 02:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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.... well, as you say, you've got no reason to feel that way just now - and, anyway, I get the feeling that although you can be emotional (and that's a good thing!) and sometimes a bit hot-headed, you certainly aren't weak - and overdosing is, when it comes down to it, a weakness. Don't even think of it. You have a lot to offer - don't undervalue yourself.

And going back to what I said before, don't reject the everyday painkillers like paracetamol. Overdosing IS fatal, but it's slow (takes a week or more!) and very unpleasant - but regular dosing really helps contol pain. And really, that's what life's all about - balancing things up and taking sensible decisions.

Jay, I am in no doubt that you're a good guy - and, I think, a survivor - but don't punish yourself when you don't have to!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Oh, it's the temptation to overdose, then ....  [message #36706 is a reply to message #36702] Sat, 07 October 2006 04:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I sat and looked at med for 15 min before i picked the painkiller/nerve med and took my dose.



So say what you want
(You know I'm wasting all my time)
You've gotta mean it when you say what you want
(You're only safe when you're alone)
And everybody's on your mind
Saying anything to get you by
Have you tried TENS ?  [message #36711 is a reply to message #36660] Sat, 07 October 2006 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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TENS (transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation) can often help a lot with trapped and mangled nerves - I don't know if you've tried it, or if it would be suitable for you. It certainly doesn't suit everyone, or all injuries. But for those who it does suit, it can be a major revelation. I have crumbling bones at the base of my spine, trashing all kinds of nerves ... using TENS has cut my use of strong (opiate) painkillers down to a couple of days a month, and allowing me to walk almost normally (using a stick) for several hours most days.

If you don't know TENS, it's a small box of electronics around the size of a pack of cards, and wires to sticky electrodes. Placing of the electrodes is critical to success, and is not at all obvious (most nerve problems are treated by stimulation of competing nerve bundles where they leave the spine, but nausea and migraine are treated by acupuncture points, for example). So getting a TENS unit fitted is *definitely* something that should involve an experienced practitioner, rather than buying one over-the-counter (I think they may not be allowed for over-the-counter sales in the USA).

If you haven't tried one, it might be worth talking to a pain specialist about whether your injury would be likely to respond to this approach.


The other thing is, have you been prescribed any SSRI drugs? They are sometimes given for injuries affecting nerves (usually in very low doses, much lower than the doses used to control mood swings). They can sometimes have the unfortunate side-effect of making people think about ending it all - even when they don't really want to, and are in fact going though a pretty good period in their lives (they had that effect on me, which is why I know about it). A long shot, but worth checking out with your medic.

Hope that you can soon come up with a pain management regime that works for *you*, both physically and emotionally. And don't be shy about pestering your medical team until you're happy that you're in the best state you can be! All the best.

NW



"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
Hi, Jay ....  [message #36724 is a reply to message #36706] Sun, 08 October 2006 00:32 Go to previous message
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... I hope the meds helped you get some pain-free sleep. We're all thinking about you!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
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