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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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sometimes I remove posts. It is rare, but it happens. I do not remove them silently because I dislike silent removals. I have just had to remove one with inappropriate language from an inappropriate place. I am not naming any names.
If the poster wishes to put his post in a more appropriate place couched in more approproate terms I have very little issue with it.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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If you have to remove the post, and assuming that it's by someone you know, why can't you remove the post and then email or talk to that person directly? You say that you don't like silent removals, but in fact what you have just done is a a silent-removal-but-worse, because not only do we who did not read the post not know which one it was or what it was about, but you've also piqued our curiosity and made us start to wonder who could have committed this transgression.
What moderators on other forums tend to do is to edit the content of the post to remove either all or some of it, but leave the framework there. It has the advantage that those of us who did not post it do not feel stigmatised.
That's two possible options, and both sound better to me than the "you know who you are" approach.
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timmy
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Well, I can't undelete it, but it had to go. I take your point.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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It seems that a double standard exists...
But I am used to that....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I've just edited my own post slightly, and you replied to the old version. I just thought I ought to point it out so that it doesn't look like I abused the "edit" feature!
David
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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No, no double standard exists. There are just things that I will not tolerate, and that behaviour was one of them.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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Oh lord. I have no idea any more.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Jedediah
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timmy said that he removes post sometimes. Deeej suggested a different way of going about it. Where's the double standard in that?
E Te Atua tukuna mai ki au te Mauri tauki te tango i nga mea
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marc
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It was not behavior.....
It was a statement.....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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marc
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Or are we talking about a specific word?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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We are talking about the overall inappropriateness of that post in that thread.
While I care about language used that was the least of my concerns. I cared about the effective hijacking of a thread to express a view that has been expressed so often and in so many places that leaving it out just once would not have hurt
The place where it was left was, in my view, damaging.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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And of course your view is the only one that matters?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I'm not trying to rock the boat, Timmy. I posted a one-off response, then updated it slightly, then posted to notify you that I had done so. I respect your judgement in removing the post.
David
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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The answer is that I moderate the forum, so yes, it is. Most people seem satisfied with that. Some have been kind enough to say that the place is pretty well run. Others disagree.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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It's fine. I suspect my answer works for your edited version and the original.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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Well I guess I can't argue with that.....
After all it isn't allowed.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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I have, as I said, no difficulty with that post elsewhere. Simply not in that thread. Argue ahead. Just do me the kindness of not having a row over it
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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The context of my replies was that your place of safety really isn't as safe as you portray it to be.....
it is a place..... nothing more nothing less.....
You insist that it is the panacea of all gaydom and as such can do no wrong..... That is where I see things differently.....
But to see things differently is to make waves..... and waves are frowned upon.....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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You chose a totally imapproproate place, despite being given a string indication that this was not appropriate. Following that with a message saying that you will "Shut the fuck up" was totally inappropriate behaviour.
I have never "insist[ed] that it is the panacea of all gaydom and as such can do no wrong". Those are your words. It does some good in the places where it does good. There are loads of people who would not want to be here. Thatls fine.
But that discussion was wholly out of place in the thread you chose. Your actions seemed to me to devalue that thread in order to make your personal point which alwasy seems to be combative and against me. So I took the decision, eventually, to remove your final post and to leave the others in place since they could, just about, be seen to be relevant.
So, now the forum is all about you again. And, yet again, we will have others who are afraid to post because they get covered in fallout.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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I think, Deej, you and others can probabluy work out who it was, now.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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Fact.....
When ever I attempt to et my point of view across you do your best to trivialize it.
You say I should begin a new thread..... What is the point of doing that... the point I was making was relevant to the thread I posted in...
Or as you say, just about relevant.... I guess that was yet another shot at trivialization...
But I get the sharpened point....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
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The words "Shall I just shut the fuck up" were wholly not relevant. Those are the ones I removed.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy wrote:
The words "Shall I just shut the fuck up" were wholly not relevant. Those are the ones I removed.
What a pity you removed them. They just beg an answer in the affirmative.
J F R
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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marc
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well, i was refering to what you decided to leave there....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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marc
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has this now turned into a tag team match?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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Now, let me see.
I have left all posts except the one where you suggested you "shut the fuck up".
That makes me a bad person.
OK, guilty as charged. If that is what "bad" is, then I am bad.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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Not bad.... arrogant, yes.... I said... you trivialized what I said... you are continuing to do it.... you will continue to do it in the future.......
Why....
Because someone dares to have an opinion other than yours or one of your causes....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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You will recall that I simply asked you to make those comments in another thread. This is not hugely hard to understand, nor hard to do. It was a simple request, once which you chose, as so often, to ignore.
You have a beef about this forum's name. That's fine. Have that beef. Bit do not infect threads that are not about it with that beef.
Have your opinions. Express them here well and in appropriate places. See what others feel, too. None of that has ever been denied you.
But do not make false accusations and do not call people names.
"Because someone dares...." Well, no. Dare away. I invite you to dare. Create a "once and for all" thread about all of your concerns. Do it well, and invite others to comment. See what the view is of everyione here who has an interest in contributing. But do not be offensive to anyone at all when you do it. Be constructive, be positive. Above all please stop this hectoring.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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I had a response....... I deleted it....... There is no point in trying........
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Marc wrote:
I had a response....... I deleted it....... There is no point in trying........
Phew! What a lot of hard work. But we got there in the end. 
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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marc
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By "we" I guess you are refering to the inner counsel?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Marc wrote:
By "we" I guess you are refering to the inner counsel?
Marc, by 'we' I meant everybody of the message board, including you.
You have always struck me as an extremely intelligent person, so I am at a complete loss to understand how it is that so often you manage to turn everything upside down and inside out, until it becomes - in your mind only - a case of "everyone against Marc". Once and for all: as far as I know there is no "inner council" and the only reason that you sometimes feel left out of things is because you manage to raise everybody's hackles until they feel like saying "Good riddance". But no one ever says anything like that, because when the mood passes you are a wonderful contributor to our discussions.
So, please, let this pass into history, regain your poise and let us all get back to fruitful discussions.
If my posts today have sounded a bit 'cranky' please put it down to the huge effort I have to make to learn how to walk again and how to get up and down stairs. It ain't easy, you know.
J F R
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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So, we have "faint accusations" now. This is like damning someone with faint praise.
Your "withdrawn unposted comments" thus serve to annoy, but do not aid our understanding of the points which must be important to you.
You have the floor, but when it is offered to you in full measure you refuse to take it. Instead you seek to turn other threads to your own agenda.
It is time to get whatever it is off your chest completely. This is the opportunity to do it. Here, now, and in full. And with politeness.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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Again I say...
What is the point?
If I try and make a point here all you will do is yet once again trivialize it....
You win Tim.....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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No. I do not win. No-one wins.
You have as much right not to post whatever it is as to post it, that I grant you. If you post it I have as much right as anyone to comment on it.
What I do not believe you have the right to do, if you choose not to post it, is to bend other threads to your agenda, which appears to be from your many prior posts on this topic "I dislike this place and all it stands for because I do not believe or trust the name it was given, and I want to warn anyone and everyone as often as I possibly can, whether relevant to a thread or not, that there might just be nasty or self centred people here"
You also often accuse me of "being the only person who knows what is good for gay people", or something similar. How on earth could I be? I know what helps some people, some of whom happen to be gay. I have ideas that I have the right to expound, as does everyone else here. I have the right to be wrong. I have the right, as does everyone else, to defend a position, to defend an argument, and to defend myself. And I have the right not to be told things in an offensive manner. And, just in case anyone should think I mean simply myself when I use the personal pronoun "I", I mean all of us. We all have those rights, without exceptions.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Mark,
why dont you take the slap on the hand, you know you were out of order,
i still like you!:-/
life is to enjoy.
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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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Like I said.....
You win Tim...
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Why not take it off the board and actually talk to Timmy, right now you are just trying for attention and it is rather pathetic.
Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?
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marc
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I don't talk to anyone other than here.....
so here it is.....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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marc
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All that aside.....
I am little enough humor right now without your insults!
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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