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For British readers - of concern  [message #40174] Mon, 01 January 2007 14:43 Go to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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I received the following in my e-mail. It was written by a policeman. I'll leave you to come to your own conclusions.
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>Subject: Something worrying - PASS IT ON
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:57:09 -0000

I read this on the net tonight, kind of worrying. Data protection and all that!!

I will be opting out!

"The government wants to upload everyone's medical records onto a national database.

I'm waiting for a reaction.

I'll say that again - THE GOVERNMENT WANT TO UPLOAD EVERYONE'S MEDICAL RECORDS ONTO A NATIONAL DATABASE!!!!!

What's wrong with that?  Well, once you are on it, your medical records will be accessible to over 1 million people who work for the NHS, plus various NHS contractors, plus countless temporary staff from agencies, summer students and so on.  Plus pharmacies and the girls behind the counter, as well as dentists and their staff and a host of other people.  The computer system they will be uploaded onto will be Internet based and so, regardless as to what security systems they install, any decent hacker will take a whole seven minutes to get in to it.

These medical records are supposed to be viewed by your GP only.  And maybe his immediate staff - but that's it. You have an unwritten understanding with your GP that nobody else will have access to your records.

You are police officers - do you want any cretin with a grudge against you to have access to your and your family’s intimate medical details?

The time when you were on antidepressants or your wife was treated for alcoholism?

Or your daughter's abortion? Or the fact that you have piles?  If you were born with an intersex condition?

Doctors don't want to upload these records because they believe it undermines their relationships with their patients and is contrary to their ethics.  The government have basically told the BMA to get stuffed because they are getting paid and they do as they're told.  Nevertheless, so much pressure has been put on the government that, just two days ago, they relented (partly) and agreed that people would have a chance to opt out,

BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT VERY SOON!  Once you are on the system - you stay on it!

So how do you get off it?  Well, go to this site:

http://www.nhsconfidentiality.org.

On it, you'll find a link which says letter.

Click on that and scroll down.  Then, input your name and address, and your doctor's details, and click "create letter".

Make sure your printer is turned on and print the letter.  Sign it and send it to your GP.  Do the same for every member of your household.  This letter has been designed by doctors, so they know exactly how your demand should be framed in order to ensure compliance.

OK, I know it’s Christmas and we’ve all got lots of other things to think about (why do you think they announced this right just before Christmas?) but do it anyway.  It needs to be with your GP before the end of February.

Remember, most doctors are choosing to opt out for themselves and their families - just as are nearly all MPs! Ask yourself why.

If my letter hasn't convinced you, read what The Times says about this:



Opt out now - while you still have chance!<
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Re: For British readers - of concern  [message #40175 is a reply to message #40174] Mon, 01 January 2007 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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Thanks for bring this up, Nigel - it's something I've been following for a while, but I'd relaxed when a concession was made giving patients the right to withhold records. however, I see from the link you give ( http://www.nhsconfidentiality.org./ ) that "... the opt-out mechanism that software companies have been told to implement is deceptive. GPs will first transfer all patient records to a ‘hosting centre’ run by government contractors. Summary records of all patients will then be generated and transferred to central systems. Finally, a blank record will be created in respect of each patient who has opted out, and this will also be uploaded to central systems to indicate that the patient has opted out. But the Department of Health (DoH) will already have a copy of the summary record, containing medical details that may by then have been transferred elsewhere or archived for later use.".

This was very worrying news to me, and I don't think has been reported elsewhere - I've certainly not seen it in any of the news media that I regularly use.

Like you, I will be opting out.



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Re: For British readers - of concern  [message #40180 is a reply to message #40174] Mon, 01 January 2007 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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Location: UK, in Devon
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The NHS IT system is another questionable piece of UK projectware that will over run its budget.

I have already protested to the UK Information Commissioner about this gross abuse of my privacy and suggest other concerned UK citizens do the same. The complaint for may be downloaded here: http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/library/data_protection/forms/data_protection_complaint_form.doc

It may then be emailed to compliance@ico.gsi.gov.uk which is a formal submission mechanism. The UKIC tends to need a significant number of complaints in order to be pushed into action



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Re: For British readers - of concern  [message #40183 is a reply to message #40180] Mon, 01 January 2007 17:33 Go to previous message
Screeve is currently offline  Screeve

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Location: England
Registered: October 2006
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I must admit that this further little breach of our rights passed me by. I think i was just too concerned about identity cards. Surely soon the costs of breaching our privacy is going to become too high soon. They could just electronically tag us all, but that has proved to be unsuccessful as offenders are breaching their tagging orders. Yet again I fear it will be the law abiding citizen who suffers!



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