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A mirror........  [message #41374] Sun, 11 March 2007 15:04 Go to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Ok..... here is my problem.......

I have this huge mirror..... it is heavy and about 30 inches by 48 inches.....

I found a nice heavy wooden frame to contain the mirror.....

I have a backer board cut to the correct size to protect the mirror from the back.....

Now to the problem..... How the hell does one nail the backer board to the frame without shattering the mirror???????

Is there a special tool I need to do this??? Is there any technique i need to learn....... (other than the obvious "be careful")?????

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.....

Like the sage once said..... busy hands keep idle minds from loosing it.... I have become very domesticated of late.....



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Re: A mirror........  [message #41375 is a reply to message #41374] Sun, 11 March 2007 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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When I've done this (which was many years ago!) there was a groove (rebate) in the back of the frame. This was more than deep enough to take the thickness of both the mirror and the backing board. So put the mirror into the frame, then the backing board. It was then easy to fix the backing board to the frame (with it lying flat on the floor face-down), by laying panel pins (or brads or small oval nails)flat on the backing board, and knocking them into the frame by sweeping the hammer sideways along the backing board. Because the hammer is only being swept sideways, there should be little risk of any up/down movement which would crack the mirror.

This means that the pins/nails don't actually go into the backing board, so it's free to expand or contract as humidity changes.

Not sure if this would work for you: it depends of the frame 'n stuff.



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Re: A mirror........  [message #41376 is a reply to message #41375] Sun, 11 March 2007 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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NW wrote:
> When I've done this (which was many years ago!) there was a groove (rebate) in the back of the frame. This was more than deep enough to take the thickness of both the mirror and the backing board. So put the mirror into the frame, then the backing board. It was then easy to fix the backing board to the frame (with it lying flat on the floor face-down), by laying panel pins (or brads or small oval nails)flat on the backing board, and knocking them into the frame by sweeping the hammer sideways along the backing board. Because the hammer is only being swept sideways, there should be little risk of any up/down movement which would crack the mirror.
>
> This means that the pins/nails don't actually go into the backing board, so it's free to expand or contract as humidity changes.
>
> Not sure if this would work for you: it depends of the frame 'n stuff.

the frame back has a rabit to accept the mirror but there is no room left for the backer board.... the backer is cut 2/3 inch oversize in both directions so there is a 3/8 inch overhang onto the frame back.... I can try the brad thing thru the back then into the frame....... it should work as long as I don't miss.... I should have bought that electric brad nail gun when I saw it at that yard sale..... oh well.....

I shall give it a shot...

Thanks NW

Marc



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Re: A mirror........  [message #41377 is a reply to message #41374] Sun, 11 March 2007 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
E.J. is currently offline  E.J.

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They make "L" shaped nails for this purpose. The short leg of the "L" holds the backing and mirror in place. Leave some space between the nail and the mirror to allow for expansion. (Since the mirror and the frame will expand and contract at different rates, you need to allow for this movement or the mirror may crack.)

I doubt that home depot would carry this hardware, but any real hardware store should.



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Re: A mirror........  [message #41378 is a reply to message #41377] Sun, 11 March 2007 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aqualino is currently offline  aqualino

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Marc, maybe those little wedge thingys they use to hold a pane of glass in a window frame ?

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Re: A mirror........  [message #41379 is a reply to message #41374] Sun, 11 March 2007 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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I got it fixed.....

I use a combination of the little brad nails and the wedgie window things.

I went out to find the bent mirror nails but the people at the hardware store said they didn't have any and to try a glass shop..... Yeah, like they are open on Sunday.... DUH....

Anywho.... it is all set into the frame....

Thanks



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A plague of mirrors....  [message #41387 is a reply to message #41374] Mon, 12 March 2007 15:08 Go to previous message
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