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timmy
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No big surprise there. I often think about sex. But what I was thinking about was the act of sex. The simple act of sex that causes so many people to get angry.
If I didn't think it was in poor taste I'd put up a set of pictures showing the sex act in all its forms. Since I do think it to be poor taste you'll have to imagine it. (there is no irony here - it is in poor taste, that is all)
My thinking is that sex is really a very simple and somewhat absurd act. It involves a part of your body being rubbed by a part of someone else's body. Or a part of your own if solo!
So, why is this simple, absurd act so surrounded by taboos, by rituals, by "obscenity", by shame?
There's nothing intrinsically wrong about a penis, an anus, a vagina or a mouth. What happened to make so many people interested in what someone else does in the privacy of their own home?
[Updated on: Tue, 20 March 2007 17:19]
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Tim said,
>So, why is this simple, absurd act so surrounded by taboos, by rituals, by "obscenity", by shame?
Some suggestions:
- the possibility of pregnancy (bad, especially outside wedlock)
- the unpredictable nature of sexual desire (historic associations with violence, rape etc. if kept unchecked)
- it's a way of controlling the population (as everyone wants it; if you allow it only under certain circumstances you can bend them round your little finger)
- the level of intimacy required (consent to invade personal space)
- the possibility of catching a disease
>There's nothing intrinsically wrong about a penis, an anus, a vagina or a mouth. What happened to make so many people interested in what someone else does in the privacy of their own home?
Prurient interests. You're getting it and they aren't.
David
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marc
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timmy wrote:
> No big surprise there. I often think about sex. But what I was thinking about was the act of sex. The simple act of sex that causes so many people to get angry.
Nope, I'm not surprised.... nope.......
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> If I didn't think it was in poor taste I'd put up a set of pictures showing the sex act in all its forms. Since I do think it to be poor taste you'll have to imagine it. (there is no irony here - it is in poor taste, that is all)
Pictures are over done, and even more so over rated...
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> My thinking is that sex is really a very simple and somewhat absurd act.
Not if it's done right.....
It involves a part of your body being rubbed by a part of someone else's body. Or a part of your own if solo!
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> So, why is this simple, absurd act so surrounded by taboos, by rituals, by "obscenity", by shame?
I have never felt the slightest bit of shame.
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> There's nothing intrinsically wrong about a penis, an anus, a vagina or a mouth. What happened to make so many people interested in what someone else does in the privacy of their own home?
The vagina part..... well I'll just pass on that if it's ok.......
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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saben
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That is really all there is to it. There's little else that provides such a level of exhilaration so of course it's going to be a passionately thought about issue- it is the epitome of passion itself. It's not the rubbing that makes me like sex, it's the feelings the rubbing produces!
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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timmy
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Sex may be intense, but my thought were much more to why other peole needed to somehow control what happens in the act of sex.
It was not very long ago in some US states that men and women were only allowed the missionary position, by law
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy wrote:
> Sex may be intense, but my thought were much more to why other peole needed to somehow control what happens in the act of sex.
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> It was not very long ago in some US states that men and women were only allowed the missionary position, by law
Sex is part of the "irrational" side of people - if it works well, the sense of 'rational self' is diminished or extinguished. Many find this side of us scary, as it threatens their view of us as essentially "civilised" (however our society defines that). So sexual activity tends to be one of the areas that it is felt could threaten society unless regulated.
But I don't think this makes sex unique - other activities that regularly come in for this kind of repression include taking alcohol & other drugs, extreme dancing or music ... pretty much any 'transcendent' activity.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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timmy
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Where I'm coming from is a very different frame of reference.
Sex is intense and all absorbing. That's great. So is golf, or tennis, or poker.
So why isn't sex treated as a simple recreation? Where did all the "stuff" come from to surround and control it?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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The thing about SEX.... and I do mean SEX.... is that the more you think about.... analyzing all it's subtelities and (for lack of a better phrase) all the ins and outs of it the more diminished the entire event becomes.
One has to go into SEX with a plunging vigor unrivaled in any other human endeavor.... This is basically because no one wants to become the legendary "lousy piece of ass"....
SEX is beautiful, especially when the lights are turned off.... Hell, it tastes great and it's filling too, but do you actually want to look at it?
and most of all, SEX is an experience best done with no plan to follow, no expectation other than just plain old "having a great time"....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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Oh yes. No disagreement there.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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If you are looking for a set of rules and regulations.....
Look to the bible, Qurain....
and then there are the pig headed, bible thumping ignoramesouses *(sp) that make the laws about things that are by no stretch of the imagination any of their business.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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ok, but why do they do that?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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The word is.......................
Control
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Marc has voiced my opinion as well.
aqua
There is a sacredness in tears. They are not the mark of weakness, but of power. They speak more eloquently than ten thousand tongues. They are the messengers of overwhelming grief, of deep contrition, and of unspeakable love. Washington Irving
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timmy
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Now I know this sounds like a 3 year old, but why do they want to control every aspect of other people's lives?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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saben
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It makes people feel important and powerful to be in control.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopaths
I'm sure a few of these have been in charge of most major religions at one time or another, too.
Look at this tree. I cannot make it blossom when it suits me nor make it bear fruit before its time [...] No matter what you do, that seed will grow to be a peach tree. You may wish for an apple or an orange, but you will get a peach.
Master Oogway
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WOW! Timmy if you get that kind of a high off poker, I sure would like to play poker with your sometime.  )
Tad Durham
Belfast, Maine U S A
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