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Now I have my own reservations about the human race and its reasoning on the topic of monogamy.
However, I would like to know from all of you what your feelings are about it, is it really meant to be or is it just another cover for the emotion we all call love?
So now my point, I SAY NOT.
There are only five creatures on the planet that I know of that are monogamist, these happen to be Swans, Orcas ( Dolphins, Killer whales and such )Penguins, ParkTown Prawns ( Insect : Ugly red thing with spines and the whole trip ask and I will send a pic ) and Humans.
Now as for the rest of the natural world, they all practice promiscuity, and the reason behind this is to further the genetic code of the species until it is unflawed i.e Perfection
So now, the Higher Power only knows how many different species there are on this thing we call Earth and now if only four ( because Swans and Penguins fall in to the same genus group ) are meant to be monogamous they must have been created "perfect" , right or wrong?
As far as I know Homosaipians are far from perfect, prove me wrong. So based on this point we should be able to say that Homosaipians should in theory be promiscuous?
I don't know the though crossed my mind and I wanted to see what you all thought about it. I know its all a bit long winded but hay it gets the point across.
Well hope to hear from you all soon.
Luvies ME
P.S. All of the above is based on my own thoughts and feelings and holds no ties to any published works of any sort. ;-D
"And so the lion fell in love with the Lamb"
"What a stupid Lamb"
"What a sick, masochistic lion"
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Wow, maybe we should turn this over to deep thought to figure out the meaning of life the universe and everything.
You are correct in that only a very small percentage of animals on this planet practice monogomy. Scoentist did a sdtudy of a bird that is supposed to be monogomus. What they found supprised them. The female would go off in search of goodies for the nest and of course eventually lay eggs. They took DNA from the male and the female and the baby chicks. Guess what? None of the babies born hads the DNA of the father. Seems that little miss monogomus was out looking for more than goodies for her nest.
The male animal wasnt meant to be monogomus. The whole thing being spread as much of your seed as far and wide as you can. the females role was to find a suetable provider. It was to her binnifit to keep a strong viril male around to take care of business.
In other words Monogomy was invented by females, so they could use us and then toss us away when we were no longer useful.
Brian in Queer as Folk said it the best" we cant be monogomus because we are gay, its because we are both men". I was in a monogomus relationship, but Im not going to tell you my eye didnt wander. Im not going to lie and tell you that I didnt have phantasies about some pretty young man I saw. However, my relationship didnt lack anything so I was content with whom I was with.
Cheating usually occurs becasue one or the other finds something lacking in their relationship.
Ok, I rammbeled on long enough.
Night night Tempo
If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.
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If all relationships were monogamous we wouldn't have AIDs spreading about or other social diseases running rampant. It is a comfortable relationship that allows you to share (give) to someone and concern yourself with their wants and needs rather than your own. You don't have to be as concerned about growing older and no longer being youthful enough to attract multiple partners. A monogamous couple can work toward common goals such as home-ownership, vacations or retirement. Such a couple can afford things unavailable on a single income. You can still pay bills if one of you gets ill and you have someone to care for you during your illness. You can plan a family - adopt children - if you have the parental urgings. A two parent family provides more emotional stability in a youngsters life than a single, gay Dad could provide.
If promiscuity were the natural order of things, how do we explain monogamy as a general rule for nearly every race and culture throughout the world? You might say that those are heterosexual relationships and don't apply. But do we lose our ingrained, pre-programmed needs for this type of a commitment just because we are gay? If you were to think of the benefits of a monogamous relationship you could go on and on. What are the benefits of promiscuity - besides sexual variety? Which would weigh more in the scale of happiness?
Life is about more than just our dicks. Life is about bonding, commitments, honour and connectivity. A loving, caring relationship seems to meet needs that are programmed into us. Who wants to end up as an old queen with cats to keep him company? I am no expert on sociology. These are just thoughts that cross my mind - although they seem valid enough to me. :-/
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You make some valid points Paul. It all looks good on the surface, but what lies underneith is something different. Most Polynesian societys do not practice Monogamy. The ones that do is due to Christian influence. Arabs believe you can have as many wives as you want as long as you can suport them. The Mormons believe in Poligamy. The Greeks are on the top of the notch. The male would have one wife, but several concubins and boys on the side. The Greeks had no word for homosexual, the same word was used when refering to Gays or Str8ts. The Christian chyurch would love for you to think that monogomy is the norm, but its not.
If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.
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I often wonder about so many thing within the human condition, I mean just since the advent of the industrial revolution things have changed drastically, populations have become less dispersed, life expectancies have grown by leaps and bounds, the family unit has gone from generations living within close proximity supporting one another all of their lives to separation as soon as possible. In just a couple of hundred years we have swept away standards that have held for thousands of years. Not that this has brought on promiscuity by any means, though maybe has set us up for the spread of diseases on pandemic proportions.
To the question at hand though, let me join Tempo in the belief that monogamy has always been a rare bird amongst the human species. Even when the prohibition of promiscuity has been prohibited to the extent of being punishable by death as in the Mayan culture, it still happened with some frequency, they called them the smashed head cuz that’s what would happen if they got caught.
Ah modern times LOL, On the other hand as most of you know I have hiv so I tend to advocate monogamy, but then again as I look at the needs of adaptation to change. I have been leaning towards a concept of extended non related family groups; say something like group marriages where you could have multiple caring loving and committed relationships. After all 50 + years with the one person is a looong time and as we live longer and healthier lives, especially some of the younger folks here are going to faced with new pressures that we haven’t even discovered yet well, I mean I don’t think I could do it, live to be 130 in a healthy body and have only one lover….. I just feel that change has come to us relatively fast and unless we change with the times and needs of our culture, “we will have the wave of change come crashing down on us or we ride the crest.” (Borrowed that from Alvin Toffler early book Future Shock) Just some food for thought.
Peace
Sorry to go on sooo long!
People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm
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Isn't it a board game you play with dice where you try to buy up all the properties in a city and to bankrupt your fellow players?
Hugs
N
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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I lived with one man for over 35 years. I never loved anyone else or was that interested in anyone else. The realtionship we had left nothing out so there was no reason to look beyond. Will I ever love like that again, I dont know, but I dont think so. I have friends who I love very much, but its not the same. I think that kind of love only happens once or twice in a lifetime. If you can find that one person who is a perfect match, then you will have the complete relationship you need. When something is missing from a relationship and you cant communicate how you feel, that is when things begin to fall apart. At this time one or both will go looking for what they are missing in the relationship.
If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.
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Mrs. Wentworth-Brewster always kept a notepad and sharp pencil on her nightstand, just in case an inspired thought came to her in the night.
One night, she awoke and realized that the most important secret of the universe had been revealed to her. Afraid she might forget it, she furiously wrote on her notepad. When she was done, her mind was again peaceful; and she fell back into a deep sleep.
When morning came, she again awoke. She vaguely remembered writing on her notepad. Picking up the notepad, she read:
"Higgimous, hoggimous; women are monogamous,
Hoggimous, higgimous; men are polygamous."
(Remembered from a very old book of shaggy-dog stories.)
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