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Norton sucks  [message #43109] Mon, 18 June 2007 21:57 Go to next message
timmy

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It has now buggered 2 of my machines. I only wanted Ghost and Goback and it decided to make my laptop loop into booting to the blue screen of death and not recognise my backup drive.

XP system restore points are all buggered too!

I find myself unamused with the most excellent people at Symantec

I hate the bastards



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Re: Norton sucks  [message #43111 is a reply to message #43109] Mon, 18 June 2007 22:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CallMePaul is currently offline  CallMePaul

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When my present subscription to Norton expires, I think I will be looking for another virus program. After all that's happened to you, I'm not about to let them download any updates to their program. That is some scary stuff Timmy. My heart goes out to you for all the work that you have ahead of you because of this one stinking program.



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Re: Norton sucks  [message #43112 is a reply to message #43109] Mon, 18 June 2007 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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It is my firm conviction that Norton has screwed up far more drives than it has ever protected or repaired!

And it is incredibly difficult to completely remove it ... the "free trial" that comes installed with most new PCs etc. These count, in my view, as "malware"! Not to mention that removing "Norton Antivirus" and installing almost any other anti-virus product instead can give effective speed gains of 10 or 20% in everyday tasks ... NAV is a hog for processor time.


I hope that you succeed in rescuing at least any important data ... I know how frustrating it can be to see the "blue screen of death" every time you turn on!



"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
Re: Norton sucks  [message #43114 is a reply to message #43109] Mon, 18 June 2007 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Roger is currently offline  Roger

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Im sorry, Im not trying to be the odd voice out here. I have never ever had a problem with Norton. I have had problems with McAffee. the one that really got me was when McAffee decided, all on its own, to encrypt my entire drive and not give me the key. I guess different people have different problems depending on the programs they run. I know there are a lot of freeby antivirus and some cheap ones, but the old adage goes, you get what you paid for. Of course that doenst mean Norton wont attack my server or one of the other computers.

Timmy, I am so sorry that has happened. Wish I could wave a magic wand and make it right.



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Re: Norton sucks  [message #43115 is a reply to message #43114] Mon, 18 June 2007 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CallMePaul is currently offline  CallMePaul

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What would be nice would be if Norton would attempt to make it right ... instead of just washing their hands of the whole affair.



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Re: Norton sucks  [message #43125 is a reply to message #43109] Tue, 19 June 2007 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kupuna is currently offline  kupuna

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Is there a good reason for not using Linux, folks?
Wot, no penguins?  [message #43128 is a reply to message #43125] Tue, 19 June 2007 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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One of machines runs Linux, but my main desktop machine is WinXP because various programs I use are only available in a windows format.

At the moment, my laptop is Win2K (IMO, the best desktop version of Windows ever), because it's useful when I go round to friends & family and sort out computer messes they've got themselves into. I'm considering making it a dual-boot machine - it mainly gets used when I'm lying in bed for simple surfing the net, and Linux / Firefox would be good for that.



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Re: Wot, no penguins?  [message #43134 is a reply to message #43128] Tue, 19 June 2007 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kupuna is currently offline  kupuna

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I have two computers and both are dual boot with Win2k/OpenSuse (desktop) and WinXP/OpenSuse (laptop).

There is such a good variety of free Linux software available, and the handling of different sorts of hardware is so much improved that for me, at least, there is little reason to keep Windows. But I also agree with you. All my friends, and my job, use Windows, and there is still the odd occasion when only Windows will do.

I do manage to mess up Linux, from time to time, but only when I deliberately break the rules. Linux itself, in the guise of OpenSuse, is incredibly stable and obviously, viruses pose no threat. (Touch wood!)

Disclaimer: I'm in no way an expert like Deeej!

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Re: Norton sucks  [message #43151 is a reply to message #43109] Tue, 19 June 2007 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Zambezi is currently offline  Zambezi

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Timmy, I've told you before. Buy an Apple Mac. No more Blue Screen of Death.



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Re: Norton sucks  [message #43152 is a reply to message #43151] Tue, 19 June 2007 22:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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I must find something to use for money!



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Mac OS  [message #43153 is a reply to message #43151] Tue, 19 June 2007 22:59 Go to previous message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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Indeed. Goodbye Blue Screen of Death ... hello, "You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button." Even less useful than a blue screen of death, as it doesn't tell you what the problem is. I have had several of these since I got an off-the-shelf Mac a couple of months ago -- that is more frequently than I have had blue screens under Windows 2000 or XP.

In contrast, a random kernel panic under Linux (the point at which you cannot do anything but reboot) has only ever happened to me a handful of times since I first started using Linux on the desktop, oh ... about eight years ago, and in almost all cases only when there's been a genuine physical hardware fault (like a laptop that had a tendency to overheat and lock up).

That said, these days I am still a full-time Linux server user, but my desktop has shifted from Linux to Mac OS. It's very simple to set up and use, and it supports a lot of commercial software I just had to do without. I've also not encountered a virus (yet). It's proper Unix under the hood (quite Linux-like, especially with fink), which counts for a lot with me. So it does have its good points.

On the stability front though: next to Windows 98 or Me, yes, of course it's stable, but so is anything. Next to Windows 2000 or XP? Not so sure. Next to Linux? Not at all.

End of rant! (Sorry... Smile )

David
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