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News from Europe  [message #43194] Thu, 21 June 2007 02:08 Go to next message
E.J. is currently offline  E.J.

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Polish Gay Community Reportedly Fleeing Country
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

(London) Poland's LGBT community is fleeing the country as government sponsored persecution mounts an LGBT civil rights activist said on Wednesday.

Robert Biedron, head of the Polish Foundation Against Homophobia, said thousands of gays have packed up and left - many to Germany and the UK.

"It is incredible. The Polish gay community has just moved away because of the climate of fear and persecution," Biedron told The Daily Mail.

"Most of the people I know are now in England because of the current political situation. Not for economic reasons, but because of the persecution of homosexuals going on here.

Biedron said that "Many gays are approaching our foundation for help in emigrating to the UK."

Earlier this month more than five-thousand people marched through the streets of Warsaw in the first legally sanctioned LGBT pride parade in the Polish capital. Many of the marchers carried banners reading "Stop homophobia". (story)

The march was held following a ruling by the European Court of Human Rights that Warsaw's former Mayor Lech Kaczynski - now Poland's President - acted illegally and discriminatory in banning previous gay pride marches.

When he was mayor Kaczynski rejected parade applications from 2004 to 2006.

In 2005 dozens of militant youths were waiting as the marchers arrived at the Parliament buildings and pelted the crowd with eggs. Police struggled to try to regain order, but were vastly outnumbered.

Last year, the State Prosecutor's office issued a letter to prosecutors in the municipalities of Legnica, Wroclaw, Walbryzch, Opole and Jelenia Gora ordering in sweeping terms investigations into the conduct of "homosexuals" on unspecified allegations of "pedophilia."

Biedron told the Daily News Wednesday the government has used a bomb threat two years ago by a man allegedly upset over the cancellation of gay pride as pretext for collecting the names and addresses of gays and lesbians even though such a list is a violation of European Union law.

The government also is pushing through parliament legislation that would make it a criminal offence to "promote homosexual propaganda" in schools. (story)

If passed the measure would essentially censor all discussion of homosexuality in schools and other academic institutions. LGBT organizations would be barred from schools and "teachers who reveal their homosexuality will be fired from work."

In addition the health ministry reportedly has created a special committee to examine ways of "curing" homosexuality.

©365Gay.com 2007



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Re: News from Europe  [message #43196 is a reply to message #43194] Thu, 21 June 2007 03:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It wasn't that long ago that all the Poles were having their rights trampled upon. I guess their memories are pretty short. :-/



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Re: News from Europe  [message #43199 is a reply to message #43194] Thu, 21 June 2007 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nations must evolve. Not many years ago Poland was a totalitarian state with closed borders. Now it is a part of the European Community. Somewhere along the way the old attitudes failed to change. Regrettably that is ok. Dinosaurs have to die out before their views will vanish.

That does not mean that pressure on Poland to come into the current day should cease, but it does mean that we can understand the imbecilic minority who have clung to power. It does not mean we can condone it, but, by understanding it, we, even in our own small ways, can influence it by our own attitudes.



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Re: News from Europe  [message #43200 is a reply to message #43196] Thu, 21 June 2007 07:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ah, but you forget! It is all right to trample on your own rights, but it is not all right to have those rights trampled upon by others.

For all that Poland pioneered getting out from under, it still has a history of internal oppression. That will take time yet to wear down.



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Re: News from Europe  [message #43201 is a reply to message #43194] Thu, 21 June 2007 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The European Human Rights legislation must apply to Poland as it does to other EU countries.

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Re: News from Europe  [message #43220 is a reply to message #43201] Thu, 21 June 2007 17:50 Go to previous message
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this must surely be at odds with the EU's Equal Treatment Directive as well as numerous decisions of the European Court of Human Rights, not to mention potential breaches of the Treaty of Amsterdam, to which Poland is a signatory.

Perhaps instead of running, some polish gay people might like to bring a case before the ECtHR and land Poland a nice 15million Euro fine, and perhaps others should be pressuring the Commission to act as well.



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