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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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Singing meaningless songs..... in very high voices.....
The song I had in mind was, ~clears throat~ "how deep is your love.....?"
But actually I don't even mean love. I mean depth of "like".
We all "meet" others online. Some here some elsewhere. We chat. Some we tolerate, some we humour, some we try to ignore, some are a real pain and catch us when we don't want to be caught, some are family, or become it, some we like a lot, etc.
So, how do we know if our liking for someone is reciprocated? How do we know without asking? And what if we feel for our own reasons we dare not ask? And will they tell the truth?
Singing meaningless songs..... in very high voices.....
[Updated on: Wed, 27 June 2007 15:38]
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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jack
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Location: England
Registered: September 2006
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well you surprise me.
They are and still are one of the most successful and talented group of song writers that ever lived in your time. you can easily put them along side the beetles.
life is to enjoy.
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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Thank you. I detest The alleged fab four. They are now happily alongside them.
But the answer to the main point?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I happen to fall victim to "love" online. The thing is, I didn't know if the person truly meant what he said to me, or if it was just role playing on his part. heck, part of me thinks he wasn't even real to begin with, and it really hurt when he left.
In reality timmy, you can never know for sure what somebody's intentions here really are, as harsh as that sounds. Heck I could just be a character made by somebody to meet other people for all you know. ( I'm not but can you really take my word for it?)
Personally I just allow myself to get lost in this "reality" and not worry too much about things like that. Or at least I try not to.... ;-D
*Scribbles on the screen* There You go....
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The online thing is difficult at best, but I think you can and do make friends and people you grow to love. Sometimes wearing a mask is the only way to deal with things and we all do that to a point. I have watched your post and I have grown to like you as a person. What you look like or how old you are really doenst matter, its the personality that shows thru and that is hard to hide under any mask.I have made many friends on line. Some I have met and some Im going to meet. I plan on meeting one soon and I love and care a lot about him. If we only care about age and looks then we are doomed.
Im not even sure this is on topic, slap my hand if its not.
If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.
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marc
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Registered: March 2003
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I know what I want to say but it is so hard to do....
There is someone that I correspond with regularly and I have started to have feelings for him.... Feelings that grow every day....
In some ways it frightens me and in others ways I find myself sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to see a few words in a post or an email from him... if only to know that he is thinking about me... just a little...
I want to say more but I am frightened to....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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>So, how do we know if our liking for someone is reciprocated?
I guess as I get to know my web friends, over time, I get a sense of the depth of their feeling for me. I've expressed my feelings openly with some and others are of a nature not to want to discuss feelings. But even with the resistant ones, time eventually reveals much. Maybe 'time' is the magic bullet here. Given enough of it I suppose we eventually know if our 'liking' is reciprocated - even if there is a reason to be leery of asking such a question.
>And will they tell the truth?
I suppose there exists a strong possibility that you won't get a truthful answer if you are harbouring doubts about him to begin with. Evidently you know him well enough to believe he might simply tell you what you want to hear, or lie to protect himself. So if you have doubts then perhaps it's prudent not to be forthcoming right away. Just make sure there's LOTS of communication so that, eventually, you might sense when it is 'okay' to ask this question.
Hope this helps. I may be afraid of sexual intimacy but that's never effected my ability to love deeply. And the one thing I've truly learned is that love/like needs nurturing over time. It's a lot like gardening I guess. The beauty of the rose reflects the care of the gardener.
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jack
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Location: England
Registered: September 2006
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some people are users, some are takers, some are givers,some dont have a bad thing to say about anyone.
I like to think that i will listen to what some one has to offer, but if i dont agree i will say so.
Good people give and take, i may be very good at some things and bad at others,
i know that, but if i am speaking to someone and all they do is sing their own praises, then they have a lot to learn in life and can give very little because they are self opinionated.
Hence live and let live, we are all at different levels of learning in life and no one has the overall ay except yourself.
some people seem to think that the saying, do as i say and not as you think is true.
But in reality if you communicate with some one long enough the real person will pop into the frame, if some one wants to wear a mask so what, the point about someone who does not tell the truth cant remember telling the lie, so he would be caught out.
life is to enjoy.
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I find that communication is my down fall on the internet, when I use a keyboard there seems to be a disconnection between my head and hands. I’m a good pubic speaker, I do so in front of college students on regular bases, and though I don’t have tons of close R/L friends they tend to be there for a long time usually until we are separated by distance and just slowly stop communicating. Online I feel I’ve never been able to convey a decent picture so I have just pretty much given up.
There is actually only one person I loved and still do love deeply as a friend, one who you know Timmy, Jon. Three years ago or so I went off IM. I didn’t want a total end to our relationship, but, and I’m just guessing here, I most have made him feel as if I was trying to end things totally. Anyway I’ve tried to touch bases with him a couple of times and of course I get silence. I wish I knew, I wish anyone I communicate with online would be totally honest with me.
Everyone is not necessarily going to like us, nor are we going to like everyone we meet. That’s OK,
Heck I don’t even know if I’m being clear now, sometimes I really wonder if I should be out here in the ether, I keep having this nagging feeling I should not!
People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm
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I think you should put that feeling to rest. Sometimes we get afraid of being mislead or lied to, but I think you have to take each case on its own merrits. There are several on this board that I think the world of and even a few I love. Why? because they listen and helped me when I needed it. They showed compassion and understanding and never judged. It doesnt matter if they are rich or poor or have degrees or are dishwashers, how they relate to you is all that matters.
If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13800
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His email is odd. He emails me but I never receive things. But he receives my emails.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Yeah I email him but no response. I use the nxus one. I think it's the only one I have.
People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm
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timmy
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Has no life at all |
Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13800
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if you have Robin's address he can forward it. Or I can forward via robin to ensure an answer
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I don't think I've ever had Robin's, So if you could I'd appreciate it.
People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm
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