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Hey all,
In light of the posts over the last little while I have a question for you all, if you choose to answer that's great if not I will respect your choice. If you wish to answer the question but do not want anyone to see please feel free to email me. All answer disclosed in private will be kept this way. So here it is :
Do you feel the necessity to be with another person, either in a relationship or otherwise, and why?
Now I feel it only fare that if I ask the question I should answer it too.
I feel no necessity, however to be "with" people is great. Weather it be in a relationship or just in general gatherings.
Been around people stimulates me. I love to see how people act when faced with a situation, I like to compare them to myself and what I would do, or would have done in the same situation.
However, been in a relationship you are only with one person. The touch of another human can not be compared to anything, nor can it be replaced by anyother action. Thus I feel no necessity to be with anyone, but I do feel the necessity for the "feel" factor. To see a person can only stimulate a few selected actions and reactions. But to feel that same person can change and action and reaction in any way.
Proven in the theory of relativity, the shortest distance between two points is zero. To demonstrate this, take a piece of paper and draw two dots / squares / circle ( you get the point ) anywhere on the page. Then take the page and fold it in such a way that both points made are one above the other. You see.
Now I know this is a really simple analogy, but hey it works.
Thus with a zero point distance between two objects, i.e. people, the action taken or the reaction created is relative. Relative to what you may ask, well that depends on the person acting or reacting.
Is this making any kind of sense to anyone other than myself ?
Right then, so in closing I must say that, the question is relative.
"And so the lion fell in love with the Lamb"
"What a stupid Lamb"
"What a sick, masochistic lion"
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I know I'm not answering the main question, but I do have some comments on the analogy!
Tempo said,
>Proven in the theory of relativity, the shortest distance between two points is zero.
The latter part of the sentence is true, but it's not got anything to do with relativity. It's by definition -- the smallest possible distance is 0 (metres/feet/light years etc.).
In three dimensional space, we can't bend space around into the fourth dimension because we only function in the third, and in any case doing so to bring two arbitrary points together takes almost inconceivable quantities of mass and/or energy -- thus, relatively speaking (from a subjective viewpoint), people are never actually zero distance apart, except where observed to be so in ordinary three-dimensional space.
Something similar would apply for two dimensional people on that piece of paper you mentioned -- since they cannot move in three dimensions, whether we, as three-dimensional people, can see that the paper is bent or not (making them close in another dimension), for a two-dimensional person, he or she is just as far from anyone else on the same plane, because he or she cannot see or travel in three dimensions.
Bringing relativity into it really undermines your point. We're three dimensional and can't appreciate our distance from other three-dimensional people in the fourth dimension of space, assuming it exists. So, actually, to make the argument work, you need to think about it from a very non-relativistic (non-subjective) viewpoint -- perhaps that of a fictional, four-dimensional being that can manipulate time and space at will. Drawing on relativity doesn't help in these circumstances.
David
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Hey all,
Please do not take this the wrong way, this topic may not be for everyone. But by no fathomable reason is this meant to anger or upset you. It really is just a young boy trying to get a better understanding of the people and the world around him.
Thanks Guys.
Luvie ME;-D
"And so the lion fell in love with the Lamb"
"What a stupid Lamb"
"What a sick, masochistic lion"
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Hey David,
You have a point, both valid and true. Thanks, point noted, but this is exactly what I am saying with my one point of being with people, their reactions stimulate and motivate me.
So however hesitant you may have been to answer the question posted you have answered so many more. So thank you.
Mike
"And so the lion fell in love with the Lamb"
"What a stupid Lamb"
"What a sick, masochistic lion"
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Tempo wrote:
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> Do you feel the necessity to be with another person, either in a relationship or otherwise, and why?
(snip)
Interesting question. Long and rather rambling reply coming up ...
I DO need people in general, but not very much of them: I'm basically a pretty solitary person and often go several days without speaking to anyone. But after three or four days, I've usually had enough of my own company and need other people for an evening or so. One of the things that I like about having recently started working again - three days a week - is that I do have to talk to people a bit!
I REALLY need just very few people who I care about deeply - some members of my family (brother, etc), and a couple of friends I've had since I was in my teens. But it doesn't matter if several months or more go by between seeing each other, for any of them. These are the people that I'm physically relaxed and unselfconscious with. My longterm friends are all radically different from each other (probably because they each fill some different need in me) - to the point where I usually see friends one-on-one because none of them get on with each other!
I work best if there is someone to be a fixed point in my universe - someone that I can cherish and love. For some while now, this position has been vacant ... and I'm perfectly happy like this, but there's no doubt that "somebody to love" adds a bit extra to life. For me, the emotional connection is important, physical sex much less so ... though hugs 'n cuddles are essential.
There are quite a few people I enjoy - friends who I meet in real life, and some on the net, and one or two who are both. I tend to hug "hello" and "goodbye"!
Being around people and watching how they interact is something else: as I worked in Theatre / Entertainments for many years, I'm used to mingling with audiences at shows and gigs ... and yes, the people-watching is a buzz, though I'm always a bit apart: I don't give way to a collective crowd experience.
There have been times in my life where I've gone to one of the big London railway stations, and sat in the cafe and drunk innumerable cups of coffee, just experiencing people around me who all seem to have objectives and destinations. This is probably a slightly sad thing to admit to ....
Different needs, for different sorts of relationships, with different sorts of people.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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I have been in relationship for over 25 years, I couldn't think what my life would without that person
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