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Hi...im kinda new here...i've read the stories...luv em all btw  ...im 17...im hurting..and i need some1 to talk to...
yama nashi, ochi nashi, imi nashi
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You can talk to me altho I dont know how much i can do. There is another 17 year old here Named the white water kid you can try talking to him. He is way smart and maybe can help.
Sweet dreams till sunbeams find you......
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Hey there Xteve,
Whats up?
"And so the lion fell in love with the Lamb"
"What a stupid Lamb"
"What a sick, masochistic lion"
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unsui
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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This will sound sort of patronising. You've taken the first step by posting to say "hi". Pretty much everyone here hurts in one way or another. Everyone here also has an opinion. Some of them you'll like, others you won't, but all are worth listening to to sift out the things you need from.
Doesn't matter what hurts you, we can't cure it, but we may be able to help you work out how to survive it better.
Just don't tell us precisely who or where you are unless you've thought very hard before you do.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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CURTIS! What were you still doing awake??? Never mind, I know. Dude, excellent. Absolutely. I wish first period wasn't so boring. I can't understand how some of these guys got into this class. It's supposed to be AP and they can barely spell much less write an essay.
Xteve, write to us. Like Michael wrote to you, burdens shared are easier. I don't envy you man, living in the Phillipines. Half the country is Roman Catholic and the other half is Moslem. Neither noted for toleration of gay dudes. I wonder if they're as bad as Southern Baptists?? All 57 varieties of them?? LOL.
And now I guess I should at least pretend to be paying attention to the teacher. Lucky the keypads on my laptop aare pretty quiet. And I turn the sounds off.
Check my profile man, you can Im me or write direct too if you want to. Also write to Curt. He's massively cool. Trust me, I know this.
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I was a bit wound up last night and it was hard to just turn off and go to sleep. I decided to check the forum and saw this post asking for help.
Sweet dreams till sunbeams find you......
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marc
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Hullo....
Im Marc..... I'm here alot..... IM me if you wants to.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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>I don't envy you man, living in the Phillipines. Half the country is Roman Catholic and the other half is Moslem. Neither noted for toleration of gay dudes. I wonder if they're as bad as Southern Baptists??
Actually, Jonny, the U.S. could learn a lot about tolerance from the Philippine culture. Here is a rather surprising article about the acceptance of gays there.
http://www.imdiversity.com/Villages/Asian/civil_human_equal_rights/pns_gay_philippines.asp
We are all unique, Xteve, and have unique problems. Yet there are enough similarities that we may be able to provide you with insights to solutions that you hadn't considered on your own. So indeed, take advantage of the help offered here. But understand that we come from different cultural backgrounds and use that to weigh the merits of the advice you receive.
Youth crisis hot-line 866-488-7386, 24 hr (U.S.A.)
There are people who want to help you cope with being you.
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Oops, see there! Never trust the off-the-wall judgements and half-formed sophomoric opinions of a seventeen year old spoilt, entitled WASP.
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Benji
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Don't feel too bad, been over 30 years since I've been in the Philippines, a lot of change has occurred since then. I knew of some tolerance back then, but I was very, very surprised with that article.
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Maybe what I've heard about Third World countries and their local brands of religious fundamentalism, both Christian and Islamic, is the norm outside of metropolitan areas. Like in the United States tolerance seems to decrease the farther away you get from cities? Is this true? I only know that where I live, gay's are considered to be agents of Satan trying to convert men to sin. Narly a direct quote from one Methodist minister.
And isn't the conservative power base in the RC church supposed to be in the Third World? It takes education, intelligence and thought to be a liberal and question things, and none of the above to be a conservative and accept things fed to you with a spoon.
I bet that stirs up the mud in the water! Like throwing matches in gasoline! Okay. Go ahead. Have at me.
Jonny
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I would say spot on with everything you stated with one exception:
>It takes education, intelligence and thought to be a liberal and question things, and none of the above to be a conservative and accept things fed to you with a spoon.
That, somehow, doesn't explain the educated and intelligent members of our political system (read conservative party) that still can't see past their theology. I guess if they capture you early enough and spoon feed you long enough, indoctrination wins out over education. They call it faith... and where faith and logic collide then logic gets thrown out the window. Say goodbye to the baby that's tossed out with the bath water. 
Youth crisis hot-line 866-488-7386, 24 hr (U.S.A.)
There are people who want to help you cope with being you.
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Excellent, Jonny! However let's take a look at how your President would diagram something like... well, Stem Cell Research for instance:
When you run things through the "Belief" filter, much of science doesn't stand a chance.
Youth crisis hot-line 866-488-7386, 24 hr (U.S.A.)
There are people who want to help you cope with being you.
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Guys, guys.... just remember:
"....I'm new here...I'm 17....I'm hurting...and I need someone to talk to.."
Thank you Michael, Timmy and Marc, for getting us back on track here a little. No disrespect to those of you who want to cheer him up with a laugh, but joking won't help a lot until Xteve knows we care about our younger members, especially those with problems that cause hurt.
Xteve, only you can decide how best we can help you, but whatever way that is, there'll be some among us who'll listen, and listen until you're satified we understand what's wrong. We can't tell you what to do necessarily, but we can offer suggestions maybe which might improve your lot, depending what the problem is.
Like Timmy said, we've all had, and maybe still have problems ourselves, so don't be afraid to share what's bothering you. If it's too embarrassing to tell on the forum, then contact whoever you think might help privately for advice first.
Mike
(CW)
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Yeah, well it's hard to stay on topic and offer advice, lunatic or otherwise, when the dude who cranks up the sympathy machine and runs to the Wailing Wall vanishes.
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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He's allowed to vanish. All sorts of things may have intervened, or he may have resolved part of his issues with or without us.
However, the forum is read a very great deal by those who never post. People see other people's questions and needs and have their own needs answered. So, even though digressions are often worthy, we do need to come back on track to answer their needs, too.
Imagine that his dad found out he was gay and blocked his internet access, for example. That would stop him from coming back easily.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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jack
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Whitewaterkid wrote:
> Yeah, well it's hard to stay on topic and offer advice, lunatic or otherwise, when the dude who cranks up the sympathy machine and runs to the Wailing Wall vanishes.
He asked for help and people offered it, just because since he posted he has not commented does not mean he is not listening. by the way pale who said he is jewish.
but who am i to say.!
life is to enjoy.
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Timmy already explained to Jonny what may have happned. Did you feel like you had to put your two cents in? I was a bit upset cause I sent him an email and offered him mine and ours MSN ID so we could talk. Not a peep. As far as the wailing wall, thats someone who gets in trouble and runs to ask god for help. Nothing was said about him being Jewish. Anyway thats all I have to say, at least for now.
Sweet dreams till sunbeams find you......
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timmy
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Well, let's not fight over any of this. Each of us has his own style. When hackles rise I worry in case we put off the very people who are in need of a kind word, or a piece of tough to hear advice.
I hope he has simply found an answer.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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jack
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dont be childish curtis.
life is to enjoy.
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timmy
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Registered: February 2003
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I realise you posted at precisely the time I replied to Curtis. You may wish to reconsider that thought under those circumstances.
Curtis is not an adult, nor a child. He reacted to what you said in his own way.
I would very much like the oddities to stop now, please. And leave the way clear for the young gentleman who asked for help.
And this to no-one in particular:
We none of us know how our written words will be received. We can't make eye contact and no-one can hear our tone of voice. So, please, write in a way where no misunderstanding is possible.
One person's metaphor about a wall is another person's jest about religion, is a third person's offence. So let's be more circumspect, please
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Benji
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Hey Guys!! Leave us Jews out of this one ok!!
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Im sorry Timmy, didnt mean to disrupt anything.
Sweet dreams till sunbeams find you......
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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Frankly I want to leave all religions and personalities out of this and get back to the main purpose of this thread.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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Just make your peace with Jack and let's let the kid who needs help back in, assuming he still wants to
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Jack, you steped on a toe. If you have watched some of the post between Curtis and Whitewaterkid I think you would know why. They are young like we once were, so give a little slack.
If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.
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jack
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Roger wrote:
> Jack, you steped on a toe. If you have watched some of the post between Curtis and Whitewaterkid I think you would know why. They are young like we once were, so give a little slack.
o.k. curtis your a nice young man.
But hey so am i.
But it is good to have some more mature people oh i mean older, watching out for us.
Oh and nothing was intended about jews, i am part jew, but still have foreskin, no pun intended.
life is to enjoy.
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