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squirrels  [message #46411] Mon, 29 October 2007 22:41 Go to next message
Curtis one who makes noise is currently offline  Curtis one who makes noise

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The native squirrel in the US is the red or red tail squirrel. They are docil and shy. The gray squirrls got here somehow from England. They are very aggressive and they have nearly driven the red squirrel to extenction. Just another bit of useless info.



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Re: squirrels  [message #46412 is a reply to message #46411] Mon, 29 October 2007 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_squirrel says somewhat differently.



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Re: squirrels  [message #46415 is a reply to message #46412] Tue, 30 October 2007 01:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Somebody just wrote that in wikipedia to take the blame off of England.;-D



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Re: squirrels  [message #46435 is a reply to message #46415] Tue, 30 October 2007 05:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Squirrels store their nuts in a tree. Myself, I prefer Fruit-of-the-loom.



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Re: squirrels  [message #46436 is a reply to message #46411] Tue, 30 October 2007 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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An alternative name for the grey squirrel is the American tree rat, which is preferble to me. The fact, Curtis, that you call it a grAy squirrel is proof enough of its origin.

Btw there are wild black squirrels commonly seen in the city of Calgary, Alberta.

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Re: squirrels  [message #46438 is a reply to message #46411] Tue, 30 October 2007 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"The red squirrel or Eurasian red squirrel is a species of tree squirrel. Red squirrels are tree-dwelling omnivorous rodents that are frequently found throughout Eurasia. In Britain, however, numbers have decreased drastically; in part due to the introduction of the eastern grey squirrel from North America and, in part, through poor management of their woodland habitat."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Squirrel

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Re: squirrels  [message #46440 is a reply to message #46436] Tue, 30 October 2007 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Curtis one who makes noise is currently offline  Curtis one who makes noise

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Hey, aint my fault you guys spell grAy wrong. Its Graaaaaaaaa not Greeeee ;-D I showed the wikipedia article to the teacher who was talking about GrAy squirrels and needless to say Im on his poopie list now. Oh well back to class.



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Re: squirrels  [message #46441 is a reply to message #46440] Tue, 30 October 2007 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I was 12 we had a teacher who insisted that a chick is formed from the yolk of the egg and it eats the white for food while in the shell. I told him he was wrong and I started that poopie list many years ago in England! He took a load of convincing! Chicks are yellow, you see, like yolks. Unless, of course, they aren't yellow,

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Re: squirrels  [message #46448 is a reply to message #46438] Tue, 30 October 2007 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have heard two convincing explanations as to why the grey squirrel has largely suppressed the red squirrel in mainland Britain. 1) is that the greys can eat acorns, which the reds can't and therefore have a better food supply; 2) that also the greys carry and spread a virus which they are immune to, but which kills the reds.

The only British red squirrels I have seen were on the Isle of Wight where there are no greys – until some idiot thinks how nice it would be to introduce them.

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Re: squirrels  [message #46453 is a reply to message #46411] Tue, 30 October 2007 23:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Err...... they're vermin....

Set out traps and lets get rid of them.......

True it would be getting rid of a red neck staple at the dinner table..... but what the hell.....



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Shame on you, Marc ...  [message #46456 is a reply to message #46453] Wed, 31 October 2007 02:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... how can you say such things about a cute creature like a red squirrel?

Seriously, though, red squirrels are not vermin, since they are not injurious to health, game or crops. The only damage they do is bark-stripping to get at tree sap, but the damage is rarely sufficient to cause any lasting damage to the tree.

They are still found in substantial numbers in the far North of England, particularly in Cumbria and Northumberland. In many areas, winter feeders are provided; because the body mass of the red squirrel is less than that of the grey, the entry to the feeder can be made small enough to prevent greys from getting in.

I feel a bit sorry for the greys, though; they're not aggressive, and it's hardly their fault that they displace the reds. But we like our reds, so the greys have got to go.



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Re: squirrels  [message #46459 is a reply to message #46440] Wed, 31 October 2007 05:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We never said it would be the easy thing to do.

Just that it would be the right thing to do.



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Re: squirrels  [message #46460 is a reply to message #46453] Wed, 31 October 2007 07:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They do taste good, and they're already stuffed with nuts.



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Re: squirrels  [message #46462 is a reply to message #46448] Wed, 31 October 2007 08:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My local grey squirrel gets to the hazel nuts on my tree before I do. He then buries them and promptly forgets where they are. And so I have several hazel saplings growing in various places in the garden.

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Re: squirrels  [message #46468 is a reply to message #46411] Wed, 31 October 2007 13:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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See what you started? Now they're all zoological experts on North American arboreal rodents.
Beavers too!  [message #46475 is a reply to message #46411] Wed, 31 October 2007 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Beavers too!  [message #47030 is a reply to message #46475] Sat, 17 November 2007 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Like a small grey coffeepot
Sits the squirrel. He is not
All he should be; kills by dozens,
Trees and eats his red-brown cousins.

The keeper on the other hand, who shot him
Was a Christian and loves his enemies
Which shows
The squirrel was not one of those.

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Re: Shame on you, Marc ...  [message #47031 is a reply to message #46456] Sat, 17 November 2007 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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reds in these parts like to winter in houses, and winter being as it is they like to build nests in the walls and one thing leads to another and there are a number squirrels prowling around sampling what they can get their teeth into. They seem to enjoy electrical insulation and have been charged but not convicted with arson.



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Re: Shame on you, Marc ...  [message #47032 is a reply to message #47031] Sat, 17 November 2007 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fuzzy tail rats......

Eww



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Umm - are we taliking about the same red squirrel?  [message #47039 is a reply to message #47031] Sun, 18 November 2007 04:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The kind we have in the UK is the European Red Squirrel (Sciurus Vulgaris, if anyone's into zoology); it's an ultra-cute itsy-bitsy creature around half the size of the Eastern Grey (Sciurus Carolinensis - so The Carolinas are obviously to blame).

It avoids human habitations, and I've honestly never heard of them doing damage. Maybe its just that UK squirrels are more civilised? Well, I suppose that's only to be expected!



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Civilisation  [message #47186 is a reply to message #47039] Sat, 24 November 2007 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"It's only to be expected". Tell me, Cossie, why?

Surely we are getting less civilised by the day. In the UK you can be imprisoned for 28 days before the authorities have to justify it, we have an even less fair electoral system than the USA, we have a second chamber containing bishops and hereditary peers and we have a government that can stop police investigating anything (from bribery and corruption in arms deals to sale of honours to those who give or 'lend' money to the governing party). We spend more on armaments than anywhere except the USA and sell them almost indiscriminately to any petty dictator who can pay. Do you seriously maintain we are more civilised than the USA?

Where is the most civilised place to live? From what I've seen of the world (not much) and on the evidence only of Toronto, I'd say maybe Canada.

Anthony

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Re: Civilisation  [message #47188 is a reply to message #47186] Sat, 24 November 2007 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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acam wrote:
...In the UK you can be imprisoned for 28 days before the authorities have to justify it...

I think you need to post this statement in the "Happy Thanksgiving" thread. It's about the only place you missed.



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It was a joke, Anthony ...  [message #47192 is a reply to message #47186] Sun, 25 November 2007 01:50 Go to previous message
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... just a joke - not a political statement!



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