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Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!  [message #46575] Sat, 03 November 2007 19:54 Go to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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This is something we all need to read.....


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49856-2004Sep25.html



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!  [message #46577 is a reply to message #46575] Sat, 03 November 2007 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kupuna is currently offline  kupuna

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Thanks, Marc!

This is the sort of story which makes me cry.

It's a down to earth and realistic approach to the problems many gay young people face, trying to come to terms with themselves, and then their own families, friends, schoolmates, teachers, preachers etc. Unfortunately, some of them are not so strong and brave as Michael obviously is.

The text is three years old now. Do you think that much has changed since then?
Re: Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!  [message #46578 is a reply to message #46575] Sat, 03 November 2007 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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I've read this twice now.

I wish, oh I wish there had been any sort of support network when I was a kid.

I stood in front of the gathering at my mother's funeral on Friday and wanted to tell them how it was while I was growing up, gay. It was her how, so I didn't. But I wanted to.

When I was a teenager I wanted not to be gay so badly that I denied it to myself. Totally.

Except we were queer back then.



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
Re: Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!  [message #46596 is a reply to message #46575] Sun, 04 November 2007 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M is currently offline  M

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thanx marc...

once i started reading i didn't stop. felt like my story.



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Re: Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!  [message #46666 is a reply to message #46596] Tue, 06 November 2007 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acam is currently offline  acam

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I was 17 at the end of 1947 when all homosexual acts in the UK were criminal and yet I didn't have it as hard as Michael. I feel really sorry for him - and for everyone who is encouraged to pervert their nature by churches that misinterpret some holy book. The three great religions of the book are repressive of sexual joy and of all variations from what they say is the norm - and of course they are wrong about what the norm is, even about the norm for that 10% of heterosexuals who are low sexed enough to be virgins when they marry.

What I can't understand is why anyone believes in God or follows the tenets of any church; it takes too much effort to suspend disbelief and the tenets are so obviously wrong.

[ ** each end of a word shows italics.]
"I can't believe *that*!" said Alice.
"Can't you?" the Queen said in a pitying tone. Try again: draw a long breath, and shut your eyes."
Alice laughed. "There's no use trying," she said: "one *can't* believe impossible things."
"I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
And, of course, Lewis Carroll, who wrote Alice, had to be in Holy Orders in order to teach mathematics at Christ Church, Oxford. [Things have changed, a bit, since the 1860s.]

Anthony
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Benji is currently offline  Benji

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Thanks Marc, it was a very interesting article, looking forward to the next piece.
Re: Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!  [message #46669 is a reply to message #46666] Tue, 06 November 2007 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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I had never put two and two together over the 6 impossible things before breakfast and religion.

However, religion and faith differ. I don't mind people believing in a deity or in water divining. I don't mind whether homoeopathy works or doesn't. But I care passionately that those who have a faith do not seek to force me into their faith and I mind very strongly if they seek to rule my life by their beliefs.

But, as a paradox, where I have, by electing a representative to enact laws for me, created rules of my society which I con]sent to obey by living there, I also live within those laws, though I may seek to change them democratically.



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
Re: Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!  [message #46671 is a reply to message #46577] Tue, 06 November 2007 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CallMePaul is currently offline  CallMePaul

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>The text is three years old now. Do you think that much has changed since then?

Also, the article ended with "Tomorrow: Michael's search for peace." Well obviously the article wasn't continued here. If anyone can find the continuation piece would you please post the url here? Thanks. This is something I will download and save forever. Thank you Marc.



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Re: Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!  [message #46675 is a reply to message #46575] Tue, 06 November 2007 18:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PeterSJC is currently offline  PeterSJC

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Marc, thanks for posting that. Living in one of the more liberal areas of California, I sometimes forget what rural gays, especially the younger ones, must deal with.

The Washington Post article continued the next day: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52563-2004Sep26.html

When these articles came to the attention of "Reverend" Phelps, the story took an interesting turn: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48197-2004Nov13.html

peter



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icon6.gif Re: Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!  [message #46677 is a reply to message #46675] Tue, 06 November 2007 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Benji is currently offline  Benji

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Thank-you very much for posting this, very interesting and moving. Are there anymore articles?
Re: Look at this!!!!!!!!!!!!  [message #46681 is a reply to message #46675] Tue, 06 November 2007 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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Just perhaps this quiet, brave boy will be the catalyst the USA needs to turn upon the imbecilic and ludicrous Phelps



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
Part 2  [message #46695 is a reply to message #46575] Wed, 07 November 2007 03:15 Go to previous message
E.J. is currently offline  E.J.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52563-2004Sep26.html


Part 3
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2626-2004Oct2.html



Part 4
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4512-2004Oct3.html



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