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Package checking  [message #46876] Mon, 12 November 2007 15:56 Go to next message
timmy

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Am I unique in the fact that I check out faces of clothed persons, followed by faces, and then faces?

I stay way above the neck when they have clothes on.

If they have shorts or speedos I check legs.

The only time I check packages is when they are naked. After all, you can see it, then! But the face is always first.



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Re: Package checking  [message #46877 is a reply to message #46876] Mon, 12 November 2007 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Yup, you are the only person on the entire planet that does this.

Everyone else looks at the package first. Some look forst and second too... and some even look a third time.

LOL......

What the hell made you think of this???



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Package checking  [message #46878 is a reply to message #46876] Mon, 12 November 2007 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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Nope, you're not. Face first -- the smile if possible.

I'm not all that interested in packages, actually. Maybe I'm just weird.

David
Re: Package checking  [message #46879 is a reply to message #46878] Mon, 12 November 2007 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Roger is currently offline  Roger

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No David your not wierd. The first thing I notice about anyone is the face, everything else follows from there. I think the face says a lot about peoplw and so thats where you start.



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Re: Package checking  [message #46880 is a reply to message #46879] Mon, 12 November 2007 18:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Damn! whats this world coming to? Packages are special, they show you what might be in store.... or in park, or in restaurant, or in library....

Or, or, or.... everywhere!!!!!...... they are EVERYWHERE!!!!!

But... faces are ok too.... nice cute pouty full lips, piercingly intense eyes, ears like bucket handles.... sigh....



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Package checking  [message #46881 is a reply to message #46876] Mon, 12 November 2007 18:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1st, the ass. 2nd, the package. 3rd, the face. 4th, the smile.

aqua

ps. Deej, you are not weird. Incredibly handsome...but not weird.



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Re: Package checking  [message #46882 is a reply to message #46881] Mon, 12 November 2007 18:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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ASS... oh my yes..... ass is right up there too....

But I go package first, then ass, then eyes, then mouth....

Ahhhh....



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Package checking  [message #46883 is a reply to message #46876] Mon, 12 November 2007 20:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JFR is currently offline  JFR

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Face first and foremost if you are looking at the person. Those who look elsewhere are objectifying a human being.

However, we being as we are, when the male body is nude the face probably comes last.

J F R



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Re: Package checking  [message #46884 is a reply to message #46876] Mon, 12 November 2007 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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I check out body language first and foremost, I think - how people stand or sit in relation to those around them, how they walk, where they're looking. Second is face ... so obviously in a photo it is face first. Even so, expression and animation matter more than stationary beauty. Third is probably clothes - not "what" they are, but "how" they are ...



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icon6.gif Re: Package checking  [message #46887 is a reply to message #46876] Mon, 12 November 2007 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Whitewaterkid is currently offline  Whitewaterkid

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You know I think our minds process things so fast it's almost impossible to say what registered first. Usually something catches your eye about a guy or a girl, like their hair or the color of their eyes that make you want to look twice. I think I agree that you can tell a lot about another person by their facial expressions and especially their smiles. And how people keep themselves and if they take pride in their appearance. But I look at girl's breasts and guy's packages too. I like to get to know pwople too so the ability to hold an intelligent conversation about different things is important too. My friends and I aren't very interested in the gangsta and rap culture so that sets us apart, and if the first thing out of a cute boy's mouth is "Yo, ma nigga, wazzup?" that's it for me, he's done.
Re: Package checking  [message #46891 is a reply to message #46876] Mon, 12 November 2007 22:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
M is currently offline  M

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I check out the eyes... if they speak to me then i have a second a look Smile



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Re: Package checking  [message #46893 is a reply to message #46876] Mon, 12 November 2007 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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It's odd. Bum watching, I mean. I've only been turned off by an unshapely bum, never particularly turned on by a shapely one. But the face overcomes often even the most shambolic bum. A nice face can even overcome a bad speaking voice.

I do find flabby a turnoff, but that shows in the face. I don't need to look lower to see flabby.

Apart from a mild fascination I really don't find the package of particular interest. I like pleasing looking penises, but it isn't a deal breaker. If he's attractive I could cope with a micropenis, or with one he has to tuck into his sock to save ground dragging.

Definitely the face first second and last.

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Re: Package checking  [message #46894 is a reply to message #46893] Mon, 12 November 2007 22:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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I'm not much into packages, but a shapely bottom does appeal. Legs, too. Not necessarily male legs, either.

I've never understood the attraction of breasts, though. I have a feeling I'm missing out on something. Perhaps this isn't the ideal place to ask, but what do people see in them?

What a bizarre thread!

David
Re: Package checking  [message #46895 is a reply to message #46893] Mon, 12 November 2007 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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timmy wrote:

If he's attractive I could cope with a micropenis, or with one he has to tuck into his sock to save ground dragging.

Weii a micro..... Hmmm..... I guess you coupd always slap it against the side to get something out of it.....

And a badonkydonger..... Well thats all alot to swallow.....



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Package checking  [message #46897 is a reply to message #46894] Mon, 12 November 2007 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Milk



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Re: Package checking  [message #46898 is a reply to message #46897] Tue, 13 November 2007 00:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I prefer my milk from the mammaries of a large, dirty bovine quadruped, thank you very much!
I'm with Timmy and Deeej on this one.  [message #46902 is a reply to message #46876] Tue, 13 November 2007 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, I realised in my early teens that I seemed to be a bit of an odd man out in this respect, but the fact that 'he's got a gorgeous body, and a treetrunk in his trousers' (I remember that as an exact quote!) always left me cold if 'he' wasn't facially attractive. That doesn't mean that I was looking for someone ultra-beautiful; an agreeable face with a personality to match was my ideal.

Even then, I was compulsively analytical - yup, I've been peculiar all my life! - and I came to the conclusion that, in essence, I was a romantic. I always enjoyed sex immensely, but it was never just a case of 'getting it off'; if it doesn't sound too corny (OK, it DOES sound too corny) I always thought of sex as an 'act of love', quite distinct from the question of whether I was 'in love'. So it logically followed that giving and getting as much pleasure as possible was the entire objective; size was simply a logistic matter.

As regards the 'cute ass' issue, though it never drove my attraction and anal was never my favourite activity, a cute naked butt had an almost hypnotic effect upon me. Hmm, I think it still does - I just don't get the opportunity to check up on there things nowadays!



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It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Package checking  [message #46917 is a reply to message #46894] Tue, 13 November 2007 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Deeej wrote:

I'm not much into packages, but a shapely bottom does appeal... I've never understood the attraction of breasts, though... Perhaps this isn't the ideal place to ask, but what do people see in them?

First of all I agree with you about shapely bottoms. I think that from the purely aesthetic point of view the shapely posterior of a young male (say 15-35) is not only satisfying to the eye but erotically arousing. (You only have to look at the butt of his "David" to know intuitively that Michaelangelo was gay.)

I am going to make a wild guess here. I think that the well-shaped (and over-developed?) female breast that is so beloved of our straight counterparts has something in common with the well-shaped buttock that we have been discussing: they are round. Maybe the straight guys see in the breasts what we see in the butts.

J F R
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Re: I'm with Timmy and Deeej on this one.  [message #46927 is a reply to message #46902] Wed, 14 November 2007 19:29 Go to previous message
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I wear lycra running tights instead of trousers (US pants). I walk to the newsagent every morning to get a paper, usually with my wife. I'd guess it's rare for us to meet fewer than a dozen people coming the other way in this quarter mile walk. I really notice people during this walk. Only a small proportion of the people meet my eyes; most women steadfastly stare at the pavement. Those that do look at me often smile or grin and I guess they do that because of the tights - if they think I'm gay then they probably feel safer grinning at me than if I might be going to rape them. Nearly all asian women keep their eyes down. Very rarely I meet someone who is 'their own woman' (as I put it to myself). They look me in the eye, smile or say good morning and then watch my crotch - especially if I'm wearing light coloured tights which show the shape of me.
The men are also interesting. Most will look me in the eye and smile or say good morning but there are many who act like asian women and keep their eyes down. I suspect those are literally homophobic - that is; scared that any contact, even just eyes, would give them away as interested in another man. There is a substantial minority that happily say good morning and smile back. (I'm a cheerful, friendly bloke and usually am smiling at everybody.) One in five of them will look at my crotch, I suppose they may just be checking that it would be too revealing for them to dress like that.
People that look me in the eye get my attention and I don't usually look elsewhere. Of course I've never yet met anyone else wearing just lycra so I can't tell you what I did when I did. It's only those who don't catch my eye that I'd look at other parts of. It's very rare to see anything interesting in the crotch or anywhere else on those guys.
On the other hand when I watch Wimbledon, say, on the television, I certainly check out people's arses and packages. They are much less interesting than they used to be. In the days of Borg, Connors &c it used to be possible to see their jockstraps (which both those guys and many others wore). Nowadays they either wear thicker shorts or boxer briefs or brief-style supports and the game has got much less interesting!
When I was at university I used to swim at Parsons' Pleasure, a men's bathing place on the river Cherwell, where complete nudity was the norm and even there it was hard not to begin, at least, by looking people in the face and catching their eye.
There is a story that Maurice Bowra and some other dons were talking at Parsons' pleasure when a punt came into view containing the Principal of Somerville (a women's college). [If a punt had a mixed crew the men would take it through the bathing place and the women walk round but when there were only women in the punt they just brazened it out and came through wholesale.] His companions hastily got towels and tied them round their waists. Maurice threw his over his head saying "It's by my face that *I* am known in Oxford!"

Anthony
PS I don't feel happy to be even-handed about BDSM and maybe I'll start a thread about it.

Anthony
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