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icon6.gif Cool Survey!  [message #46921] Wed, 14 November 2007 14:25 Go to next message
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Deep Thinking Survey...
If you could...


...do any type of career, what would you do & why?:
I would really like to get BS in Yacht Design, and then get some financing and start my own boatyard and marina business. Maybe build wooden boats, and restore older ones.

...visit any place in the world, where would you go?:
The archipelago around the city of Stockholm, for the sailing. Maybe the coast of Maine for the same reason.

...learn any new skill, what would you choose to learn to do?: Drafting and Autocad, for the yacht design career.

...have anything you wanted right now, what would it be & why?:
I've got just about everything I want, and I know I have everything I need. I want to do well on the SATs this fall and get into a good college.

...eat anything right now, what would it be?:
Fried shrimp. I love shrimp. Any way they can be fixed. And crab.

...change one thing about yourself, what would it be?: I'm pretty well happy with myself, but I'd like to be able to procrastinate less over things that aren't my favorite things to do. Like the laundry. Or cleaning my room! I think my temper is getting better, and I think I have more patience with people.

...fly, where would you go and why?:
Sweden

...make 3 wishes, what would you wish for?:
Less oppressive religions in the world, acceptance of alternative lifestyles, and that I'll keep my friends forever.

...meet someone from the past, who would you meet?:
Thomas Jefferson. Theodore Roosevelt. The Mahatma Gandhi. King George VI.

Random...

What's your largest desire in life?:
Right now? A successful senior year in high school. Successful relationships.

What would you do if you knew today was your last day on earth?:
Kiss my parents goodbye and go sailing.

What first impression do you hope others get from you?:
"Here's a really nice guy...a little goofy maybe and with a weird sense of humor, but really nice."

What embarrasses you most about yourself?:
I am sometimes athletically clumsy

What animal do you think you resemble most & why?:
An elephant. Slow sometimes, but steady. Intelligent without seeming to be so, good memory, and interesting I hope, to look at.

If you won the lottery, how would you spend the money?:
Tough question. I honestly never thought about this. The chances of winning are so huge and I don't gamble. But I'd try to do some good with it.

What do you want to accomplish during your life?:
To be happy, productive, a credit to my parents, in a stable relationship with either the girl or boy of my life, to die respected and mourned, and to have fun along the way.

If you could break any habit, what would it be?:
My horrible, terrible procrastination.

Some Favorites...

Favorite Hobby?:
Sailing... yachting... just messing about in boats.

Favorite Month?:
June

Favorite Year? (that you've been alive lol):
2007, so far it's been wonderous!

Favorite Scent?:
Lilies of the Valley perfume on my grandma, and Opium on Debbie, and fresh sweat on Eldon.

Favorite Body of Water? (lake, ocean, river, etc.):
Lake Winnepesaukee, in Hew Hampshire. This was a really hard one to answer. The Chesapeake Bay around Easton and St. Michael's is beautiful too.

Favorite Genre of Movies?:
Mystery and suspense

Favorite thing to do outside?:
Sail and swim. Fish a little, sail some more, swim again. Sail a little more....Get the picture? LOL

Favorite thing to do inside?:
Okay, my first facetious answer... I'm seventeen, physically fit, constantly horny and I date a great boy and a great girl... what do YOU think is my favorite indoor activity?
Cool ;-D Sad) Cool

[Updated on: Thu, 15 November 2007 05:25]

Objection, Your Honour!  [message #46948 is a reply to message #46921] Thu, 15 November 2007 02:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Despite writing the questions himself, the defendant has blatantly omitted to explain WHY he wishes to fly to Sweden. This grievous oversight is indicative of a wholly unacceptable attitude to protocol. The People urge a custodial sentence, so that he may be given time to reflect upon his deplorable behaviour, free from unhealthy distractions such as Chowan Farm Boys.



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
M'Lud, on a point of law!  [message #46952 is a reply to message #46948] Thu, 15 November 2007 05:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AT Her Majesty's Queen's Bench VI, and before Lord Justice Timmy,

Now comes the Whitewaterkid by his counsel Sir Hardy Gotcherbum, Q.C., P.C., R.S.V.P.,

IN APPEAL:

MAY IT PLEASE YOUR LORDSHIP: While the defendant freely admits to the grievous oversight, he begs Your Lordship to consider the possible co-defendant in this case, to wit, Chowan Farm Boy, who has not yet posted his Survey. (As in Crown vs. Fernsnatch, XXII Vict. 10) Also m'Lud, this case hardly warrants a custodial sentence unless of course, it was WITH Chowan Farm Boy.

AND FURTHER: Whitewaterkid strongly avers m'Lud, that Chowan Farm Boy can hardly be termed an "unhealthy distraction" as learned councel for the Crown states. (See further Crown vs. Luvfuykin, XIV GeoV. 9) Since beginning intimate distractions with Chowan Farm Boy, the Whitewaterkid no longer suffers from insomnia, poor diet, bad complexion, listlessness, ennui, mental fatigue, athlete's foot or halitosis. The salubriousness of Chowan Farm Boy's person has had the most beneficial and uplifting effects on Whitwaterkid's anatomy. Indeed m'Lud, the uplifting effects are nothing short of spectacular, and occur at regular intervals throughout their school day and well into wrestling practice. Surely your Lordship would not separate two so well matched young men.

AND FURTHER: Whitewaterkid states that he did not write the survey questions himself as stated as fact by learned counsel for the Crown, but Whitewaterkid filched them from someplace else, and that he cannot now recall from where the said filching occured.

AND FURTHER, in attachment to the pleadings, Whitewaterkid begs to submit the following ADDENDUM, to the previously submitted SURVEY:

That the Whitewaterkid desires to go to The Kingdom of Sweden because he has learned that Their Majesties the King and Queen are the parents of two Royal Princesses of exceeding lovliness, not to mention a Royal Prince of exceeding studliness; AND ALSO, that this fair realm has opportunities for sailing in, and through, and around, and all over an archipelago of many islands and islets which would test the skills of any mariner; AND FURTHER, as his attachment to blond boys is well known and of which his attachment to Chowen Farm Boy attests, the said Whitewaterkid desires to see for himself what crop of blond Swedish boys might be willing to sail with himself and Chowan Farm Boy, all to the furthering of international relations.

AND IN CONCLUSION: Whitwaterkid begs the mercy of The Queen's Most Gracious Majesty.

[Updated on: Thu, 15 November 2007 05:19]

Re: M'Lud, on a point of law!  [message #46955 is a reply to message #46952] Thu, 15 November 2007 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ROTFLMAO!

Brilliant. Thank you for starting off my day with a good laugh.

J F R



The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
Survey  [message #46965 is a reply to message #46955] Thu, 15 November 2007 13:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Boy, have you got it made!

You made me think of Andrew Marvell. Here is a single verse from The Garden:
What wondrous life is this I lead!
Ripe apples drop about my head;
The luscious clusters of the vine
Upon my mouth do crush their wine:
The nectarine and curious peach,
Into my hands themselves do reach;
Stumbling on melons, as I pass:
Ensnared with flowers, I fall on grass.

[And see the Definition of Love for a seventeenth century gay love poem.]

Have you read 'Dicey's Song' by Cynthia Voight? Actually there are several books. I think you might like them.

As I'll be 73 next month may I be excused the survey? If not I'll pretend to be 18 and answer it like that.

Love, Anthony
Stay me with flagons...for I am sick with love.  [message #46976 is a reply to message #46965] Thu, 15 November 2007 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stay me with flagons, comfort me with apples: for I am sick with love. From The Song of Solomon II:5


Hi Anthony,

Yes, we all read Dicey's Song in a middle school English class. We did the study guide questions too. I thought it was a great book. The last day of the unit, we got to watch the movie that was made from the book. It starred Anne Bancroft as Mrs. Tillerman and is called Homecoming. Jon said he didn't think the movie was actually filmed on the Chesapeake where the action of the book took place, but out on the west coast somewhere. Neither Jon or I are big theater critics, but Anne Bancroft was really great in this.

I checked out Marvell's Definition of Love and also the full text of The Garden. They are wonderful, but these lines from his Young Love seemed to speak directly to me. I showed them to Jon, and he got very quiet and read them again then said "whew!"

V.
Now then love me: Time may take
Thee before thy time away;
Of this need we'll virtue make,
And learn love before we may.

VI.
So we win of doubtful Fate,
And, if good she to us meant,
We that good shall antedate,
Or, if ill, that ill prevent.

VII.
Thus as kingdoms, frustrating
Other titles to their crown,
In the cradle crown their king,
So all foreign claims to drown;

VIII.
So to make all rivals vain,
Now I crown thee with my love:
Crown me with thy love again,
And we both shall monarchs prove.


Then there's the lines everyone knows from Marlowe's The Passionate Shepherd to His Love...

Come live with mee, and be my love,
And we will all the pleasures prove,
That Vallies, groves, hills and fieldes,
Woods, or steepie mountaine yeeldes.

And wee will sit upon the Rocks,
Seeing the Sheepheards feede theyr flocks,
By shallow Rivers, to whose falls,
Melodious byrds sing Madrigalls.



We do have it good, and we know it. But we have it so because of all the patient courage of the gay and bisexual guys in previous generations who showed that we are really no different from anyone else.

Anthony, Jon and I would like you to fill out the survey. You may be excused, yes, but we both think it would be interesting to see things from your perspective now, not as a seventeen or eighteen year old.

And now, wrestling! During which I get to fondle Jon in public!
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Eldon's Version.  [message #46982 is a reply to message #46921] Thu, 15 November 2007 22:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Eldon's Deep Thinking Survey... or... Deep thoughts from a shallow mind.

If you could...
.


...do any type of career, what would you do & why?:
This might sound crazy to you guys who don't know me, but I have never thought about doing anything other than agriculture and livestock breeding. I like working outdoors, I like the animals and working with them, and I'm looking forward to studying these things in agricultural college so I can improve how we do things.

...visit any place in the world, where would you go?:
Yorkshire in England to see where my family came from originally.

...learn any new skill, what would you choose to learn to do?:
Skiing. I have never been skiing and it looks like total fun.

...have anything you wanted right now, what would it be & why?:
I'm coping out of this one. He knows what I would write, we know what's in our hearts, we've talked it over, and over, and over. There's no way it could ever happen, not here, not in our lifetimes.

...eat anything right now, what would it be?:
Jon's mother's stuffed baked pork chops, with the garlic mashed potatoes she makes.

...change one thing about yourself, what would it be?:
To be more tolerant of other people's opinions when they don't agree with me.

...fly, where would you go and why?:
I think to England, especially to London and to Yorkshire.

...make 3 wishes, what would you wish for?:
Jonny wrote; "Less oppressive religions in the world, acceptance of alternative lifestyles, and that I'll keep my friends forever." I can't think of three better wishes.

...meet someone from the past, who would you meet?:
General Robert E. Lee

Random...

What's your largest desire in life?:
To be happy, to make others happy.

What would you do if you knew today was your last day on earth?:
Kiss my parents goodbye and spend the day with friends.

What first impression do you hope others get from you?:
"Here is an honest man whom I can trust."

What embarrasses you most about yourself?:
I lapse into very colloquial English if I don't catch myself.

What animal do you think you resemble most & why?:
A Clydesdale. Strong legged, lots of staying power, not a racehorse but good and steady. Good natured and peace-loving.

If you won the lottery, how would you spend the money?:
I would spend some of it on myself of course. Maybe even most of it. The charities I would support would be working with children with disabilities.

What do you want to accomplish during your life?:
I will change Jon's reply just a little; To be happy, productive, and a credit to my parents. To marry a girl who shares my dreams, to be blest with healthy children and to die respected and mourned, and to have fun along the way.

If you could break any habit, what would it be?:
My impatience with people who are stupid.

Some Favorites...

Favorite Hobby?:
Radio controlled model airplanes.

Favorite Month?:
October

Favorite Year? (that you've been alive lol):
2007, so far it's been wonderous! Jon, you got that right! It's been terrific.

Favorite Scent?:
Grass just after it's been mown.

Favorite Body of Water? (lake, ocean, river, etc.):
The river near where I live.

Favorite Genre of Movies?:
Old horror movies.

Favorite thing to do outside?:
Enjoying life in, and around, a pool.

Favorite thing to do inside?:
Jon wrote; "Okay, my first facetious answer... I'm seventeen, physically fit, constantly horny and I date a great boy and a great girl... what do YOU think is my favorite indoor activity?" I agree but would have written the abridged version... I like fucking my brains out.

[Updated on: Thu, 15 November 2007 22:54]

Re: Eldon's Version.  [message #46989 is a reply to message #46982] Fri, 16 November 2007 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you could....

...do any type of career, what would you do & why?:
I will be eighty in a couple of months and with my family's longevity history I'll just stick to the career I've had. I have been an artist, designer and a teacher of the same since I was 18, and I still teach art at the senior center. I have always loved every day of it and now I look forward to Fridays class.

...visit any place in the world, where would you go?:
Boating up the Nile

...learn any new skill, what would you choose to learn to do?:
Hang gliding

...have anything you wanted right now, what would it be & why?:
I have everything I want except good health. The "Golden Years" suck.

...eat anything right now, what would it be?:
My mother's meat loaf with mashes potatoes and gravy with corn on the cob rolling in butter. Plus Banana cream pie topped with gobs of wipped cream.

...change one thing about yourself, what would it be?:
I made it this far, I think I had better stick with what I've got.


...fly, where would you go and why?:
The space shuddle to the space station for a nice lunch with a most wonderful view.

...make 3 wishes, what would you wish for?:
I wish all nations love, understanding and peace.

...meet someone from the past, who would you meet?:
Jesus, Buda and since I'm a damm yankee, Lincoln.

Random...

What's your largest desire in life?:
To be satisfied and learn to really love myself.

What would you do if you knew today was your last day on earth?:
Pack a hamper with fried chicken and shrimp, some onion rings and cold beer. Take a tape deck with my favorite classics. Get into my little 12 foot sailboat and sail into the sun and into adventures in the beyond.

What first impression do you hope others get from you?:
"He's not pretending to be anything except what he is."

What embarrasses you most about yourself?:
I'm at an age where I find myself repeating stories and my friends never tell me.

What animal do you think you resemble most & why?:
I don't know, but I would like to be a porpoise.

If you won the lottery, how would you spend the money?:
I would spend some of it on a home in the Virgin Islands, keep enough to live on and divide the rest among my family and hope they spend it wisely.

What do you want to accomplish during your life?:
I'm quite happy with my life and wouldn't change a thing.
I've really enjoyed every bit of it so far. I've had adventures as a private pilot, sailing, scuba diving and traveling. Life's been good.


Some Favorites...

Favorite Hobby?:
Bulding and flying kites.

Favorite Month?:
June

Favorite Year? (that you've been alive lol):
The next one.

Favorite Scent?:
Blooming Jasmen.

Favorite Body of Water? (lake, ocean, river, etc.):
Any warm ocean with lots of coral and fish to see and beautiful water to sail on..

Favorite Genre of Movies?:
Historical dramas.

Favorite thing to do outside?:
Fly kites with friends.

Favorite thing to do inside?:
Cooking and lots of taste testing.
Well, if we're all doing it.  [message #46994 is a reply to message #46921] Fri, 16 November 2007 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cossie’s Confessions.

If you could....

...do any type of career, what would you do & why?:
Graphic design consultancy – the path I should have taken in the first place. I’m good at it, and it’s immensely satisfying.

...visit any place in the world, where would you go?:
New Zealand; it seems to be a beautiful and highly civilised country.

...learn any new skill, what would you choose to learn to do?:
Computer programming, because as things stand it scares the hell out of me.

...have anything you wanted right now, what would it be & why?:
More children, because bring up the two I’ve got was the most fulfilling thing I’ve ever done.

...eat anything right now, what would it be?:
Cumberland Hot Pot.

...change one thing about yourself, what would it be?:
I’m pretty happy the way I am.

...fly, where would you go and why?:
Salzburg. Some of the best times of my life were spent in the Salzkammergut.

...make 3 wishes, what would you wish for?:
The strength to change those things I ought to change, the serenity to accept those things I cannot change ... and the wisdom to know the difference.

...meet someone from the past, who would you meet?:
Leonard da Vinci – assuming we could both speak the same language.

Random...

What's your largest desire in life?:
To make a difference.

What would you do if you knew today was your last day on earth?:
Complain to the management and demand a recount.

What first impression do you hope others get from you?:
That I’m laid back, humorous and likeable. No harm in hoping!

What embarrasses you most about yourself?:
Being strung out, humourless and objectionable. (Just joking - I hope!)

What animal do you think you resemble most & why?:
A Chimpanzee. It’s a scientific fact.

If you won the lottery, how would you spend the money?:
Quickly.

What do you want to accomplish during your life?:
Equaniminty.

If you could break any habit, what would it be?:
Excessive consumption of Malt Whisky
Some Favorites...

Favorite Hobby?:
Transport History.

Favorite Month?:
June.

Favorite Year? (that you've been alive lol):
1996 was a lot of fun.

Favorite Scent?:
Crushed Mint.

Favorite Body of Water? (lake, ocean, river, etc.):
The Solway Firth (between England and Scotland on the West Coast.. It has sunsets like nowhere else on earth.

Favorite Genre of Movies?:
Hammer Horror. Quatermass II is on again early on Saturday morning!!!

Favorite thing to do outside?:
Fellwalking.

Favorite thing to do inside?:
Reading.



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Cool Survey!  [message #47011 is a reply to message #46921] Fri, 16 November 2007 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, you did ask!

Deep Thinking Survey...
If you could...

...do any type of career, what would you do & why?:
I think if I began again I'd like to teach more; it's the most fulfilling thing I've done.

...visit any place in the world, where would you go?:
I like Cossie's idea of New Zealand (assuming it has to be somewhere new to me)

...learn any new skill, what would you choose to learn to do?: I'd learn how to program in J – the most marvellous computer language there is or play the harpsichord or fly an aeroplane.

...have anything you wanted right now, what would it be & why?:
Better health. My eyes are getting worse, my knees conspire to make running difficult, I have to get up to pee several times a night (swollen prostate) and I have erectile dysfunction.
I don't want or need much I haven't got but if someone gave me a few bottles of Chateau D'Yquem I'd not refuse them.
Maybe I'd ask for a house with a garden that ran down to the the banks of a river (such as the Cherwell or the river Wye) where I could keep my boats and go out in them all the time.

...eat anything right now, what would it be?:
For a treat a good chinese; right now I'm not hungry and anyway I'd be better a bit thinner.

...change one thing about yourself, what would it be?: Only ONE thing? I guess I'd lose an obsession – but which? I'm so attached to them. Be a bit thinner? or tidier?

...fly, where would you go and why?:
Could it be like a bird? I don't ever want to go in an aeroplane and airports (perhaps for consistency I should call them aerodromes!) are some of the worst places made by man.

...make 3 wishes, what would you wish for?:
Painless and permanent population reduction by 90%. An end to religions. A way of governing the world that was peaceful and beneficent.

...meet someone from the past, who would you meet?:
Alexander, Archimedes, Leonardo, Scarlatti, Haydn (if I could have their attention, could talk to them and understand them)

Random...

What's your largest desire in life?:
I'd really love to play the harpsichord well, build a steam engine and the boat or car round it, learn to fly a light aircraft. Of course these are pipedreams – did you mean them to be?

What would you do if you knew today was your last day on earth?:
Hug my children and grandchildren.

What first impression do you hope others get from you?:
How interesting. Can I learn more?

What embarrasses you most about yourself?:
I'm not easily embarrassed; I suppose the worst is when I stupidly misunderstand somebody.

What animal do you think you resemble most & why?:
Man – a passing resemblance!

If you won the lottery, how would you spend the money?:
Educating my grandchildren; there are only two tolerable state schools in Bristol (ie with results that reach the national average) and to go to one you have to go to church and the other has a catchment area which is far from where they live, so they must go to private schools. I might do other educational things too.

What do you want to accomplish during your life?:
I guess what I did want was to have children and bring them up well and I've done that ('well' is arguable, but we're still friends). I guess now the best to hope for is that I bow out gracefully without overloading the family. I'd like to play croquet better, write better J, draw better . . .

If you could break any habit, what would it be?:
I think I am unaware of my habits. I guess I'd be a lot nicer to live with if I were tidier.

Some Favorites...

Favorite Hobby?:
Always has been boating. I have three rowing boats. Nowadays it's Croquet in summer.

Favorite Month?:
May

Favorite Year? (that you've been alive lol):
Either 1955 (when Peter and I were allocated to a shared room in the naval base in Germany where we served) or 1962 (when Sylvia and I got together)

Favorite Scent?:
Jasmine blossom

Favorite Body of Water? (lake, ocean, river, etc.):
The river Cherwell: no motor boats, mostly out of range of cars, clean and mostly swimmable, long enough for one to get away from the crowd if one is determined.

Favorite Genre of Movies?:
Don't go to enough to have a favourite type.

Favorite thing to do outside?:
Swim, row, punting, sunbathe, sex in the sun and if it's not private I'll build a sandcastle. In Bristol I'll play croquet.

Favorite thing to do inside?:
Same as Whitewaterkid, except I'm not physically constantly horny only mentally. I read a lot and listen to a lot of music.

Anthony
I'm In!  [message #47025 is a reply to message #46921] Sat, 17 November 2007 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Stay me with flagons...for I am sick with love.  [message #47026 is a reply to message #46976] Sat, 17 November 2007 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear Donny,
Yes! And Yes again. Thank you for that.

I might have known Dicey would be well known - I was thinking of the book in which she sets herself up to repair boats. Did you read that? I didn't know there was a film. I have a friend in Marblehead who used to be on the board of Hoods (sailmakers).

It's really good to hear the metaphysical poets are not forgotten. I quoted Marvell because he is not as well known as Marlowe. It was a real bonus to me to have you quote both.

And how I'd have liked to be able to fondle a friend in public when I was young. Lycra hadn't been invented and all homosexual acts were criminal in England. I make up for it a bit by wearing Lycra tights most of the time; the only problem is that they have no pockets so I have to sniff!

Anthony
PS Was that Hebrew? Sorry to be so ignorant. Was it something I ought to have responded to?
Hot off the Press!  [message #47041 is a reply to message #46952] Sun, 18 November 2007 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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From the ‘London Law Gazette’, week ending 17 November:


IN THE HIGH COURT OF JUSTICE (QUEEN’S BENCH DIVISION)

Kid v. Commissioners for the Maintenance of Ethical Behaviour for the Division of Deepinshit in the County of Berkshire.

Before Mr. Jusice Cholmondely-Featherstonehaugh.

Sir Hardy Gotcherbum, QC, PC, RSVP for the Appellant
Sir Tainly Knott, QC, BF, SOB for the Respondents

15 & 16 November 2007

DECISION:

Cholmondeley-Featherstonehaugh, J: This is a most interesting case, arising from proceedings originally brought in the District Court of Arsend in the State of North Carolina . Unfortunately, no evidence has been adduced to indicate whether North Carolina is in a good state or a bad state, or indeed where the devil it is. I am given to understand that it is some way to the West of Bristol, and thus presumably somewhere in South Wales, in which case it is almost certainly in a bad state.

In any event, it was alleged that the appellant, Mr. Whitewater Kid – which I take to be one of those strange Welsh names – did fail to comply with the rules of protocol for internet quizzes, as determined by International Statute UN(1992)70471(B), in that he did pose a question but on completing the quiz himself did fail to provide a complete and accurate answer. Such an offence carries the possibility of a custodial sentence under international law, and the prosecutor in those proceedings, Mr. Cossie McCossie, QC, QT, NB, EG, contended that such a sentence should be imposed, because it was evident that the real reason for the offence was the undesirable influence of one Mr. Chowan Farm Boy (who, not surprisingly, also appears to have a Welsh name, and is alleged to be peculiar in several other respects). The learned counsel thus argued that a custodial sentence was in the best interests of the appellant, in order to protect him from such undesirable attentions. The case was however adjourned, as the presiding judge was obliged to withdraw, having admitted that he himself was inclined to pay undesirable attention to Mr. Kid or, as the opportunity may present itself, to Mr. Boy. Before the case could be resumed, it was established that as the internet site in question was administered from Deepinshit in the County of Berkshire, jurisdiction lay with the Commissioners for the Maintenance of Ethical Behaviour for that Division.

Before the Commissioners, Mr. Kid contended that Mr. Boy should be joined with him in the proceedings, as Mr. Boy had now also completed the relevant quiz and had provided some extremely dubious answers. There appears to have been some misunderstanding as to the precise nature of this request. Mr. Kid further contended that a custodial sentence was unjustifiably severe, unless it could be served in association with Mr. Boy. Again, there appears to be some ambiguity as to the intended meaning of ‘association’, but that need not concern us here. Mr. Kid further asserted that his ambiguous association with Mr. Boy had proved beneficial to his health and wellbeing. The Commissioners rightly dismissed this assertion, as no-one in Deepinshit gives a damn about the health and wellbeing of the Welsh.

Mr. Kid also admitted to wrestling with Mr. Boy, which the Commissioners considered to be evidence of a violent disposition, and that his subsequent admission that he had in any event stolen the quiz questions from person or persons unknown, contrary to the Theft of Internet Quizzes Act 1994, Section 457(3)(b)(iv), was further compelling evidence of his undesirable character.

Mr. Boy had been summoned to appear before the Commissioners, but regrettably he was arrested at Heathrow Airport on a charge of attempting to import a quantity of pungent perspiration, contrary to Paragraph 545(b)(xxvII) of the Oversexed Americans (Importation of Pungent Substances) Order 1998, Statutory Instrument 1998 No. 6427. He was thereupon deported, I do not fully understand the reference to Americans, and would have expected the relevant authority to be the Exclusion of Smelly Welshmen Act of 1407, but that point is not before this Court.

The case therefore proceeded without the evidence of Mr. Boy. Mr. Kid subsequently avowed that, had he not been distracted, he would have indicated in the quiz that his wish to fly to Sweden was motivated, inter alia, by an attraction to blond males of a description analogous to Mr. Boy. Not surprisingly, the Commissioners regarded this as a palpable falsehood. The prosecution brought forward 257 witnesses to testify that all adult Swedish males were boring and bald. The defence called His Excellency the Swedish Ambassador at the Court of St. James. The court reporter noted that he appeared wearing a toupee, but thereupon dozed off, so we are deprived of a record of his evidence.

The Commissioners found that Mr. Kid was a thoroughly undesirable Welsh person, and sentenced him to five years’ imprisonment. Lenient though that sentence clearly was, Mr. Kid has appealed to this Court.

Sir Hardy Gotcherbum has argued cogently and persuasively on behalf of his client – a praiseworthy achievement for any counsel representing a Welshman. Sir Tainly Knott argued incoherently on behalf of the Respondents, but that of course was after lunch.

I am, however entirely, albeit reluctantly, persuaded by Sir Hardy’s argument that whilst the relevant international legislation requires anyone setting an internet quiz to provide his own full and complete answers, it does not specify a time limit for provision of those answers. I therefore conclude that the Commissioners were wrong to find Mr. Kid guilty of the charge before them, ans I accordingly reverse their decision.

I am however fully convinced that any person who expresses a wish to sojourn among boring and bald people is necessarily of unsound mind to a degree which constitutes a danger to public safety, and I therefore order that Mr. Kid be detained in a secure hospital (preferably in Wales) during Her Majesty’s pleasure.

Next case?



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Hot off the Press!  [message #47047 is a reply to message #47041] Sun, 18 November 2007 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ChowanFarmBoy is currently offline  ChowanFarmBoy

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THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

Raleigh, North Carolina, 18 November 2007


EMERGENCY STAY OF EXTRADITION:

By Order of The Governor:

The right of jurisdiction over Mr. Kid and Mr. Boy by Her Majesty's High Court of Justice is denied, and therefore the decision therein rendered is considered to be void within this State of North Carolina.

The nationality of Mr. Boy and Mr. Kid was wrongfully stated in the opinion now voided.

The family of Mr. Boy came originally from Yorkshire in 1703. As attested by Land Grants signed by Her Late Majesty Queen Anne. The family of Mr. Boy has never been connected to the Principality of Wales other than Mr. Boy's fondness for singing the hymn tune Cwm Rhondda in church.

The family of Mr. Kid came to the State of North Carolina in 1715 from the Kingdom of Scotland, and before that from the Kingdom of France, and while his family may have several sets of exceedingly dubious antecedents, and even though his distant relative had to leave the said Kingdom of Scotland in a hurry and under cover of night, the State of North Carolina will not extradite him. Mr. Kid's family likewise has never had the slightest connection with the Principality of Wales other than Mr. Kid's great fondness for an odd culinary creation known as Welsh Pasties.

As stated, the request of Her Majesty's Government for the extradition of The Whitewaterkid and The Chowanfarmboy IS DENIED.
Re: I'm In!  [message #47048 is a reply to message #47025] Sun, 18 November 2007 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.
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Deep Thinking Survey...
If you could...

...do any type of career, what would you do & why?: be a chemist for like Lilly Corp.
...visit any place in the world, where would you go?: England or Austrailia

...have anything you wanted right now, what would it be & why?: for my friends to be safe and happy

...eat anything right now, what would it be?: Grandma's apple turnovers

...change one thing about yourself, what would it be?: not get so angry and run my mouth

...fly, where would you go and why?: Europe, to see all the places you learn about in history

...make 3 wishes, what would you wish for?: My brother to come back, to live next door to Jon and Eldon, for Mattie to find real love

...meet someone from the past, who would you meet?: Jules Vern

Random...

What's your largest desire in life?: To be comfy and happy with my mate

What would you do if you knew today was your last day on earth?: hug my mom and Jeff and talk about how wonderful the time I had with them was

What first impression do you hope others get from you?: That I care

What embarrasses you most about yourself?: my temper

What animal do you think you resemble most & why?: a reesus monkey, small and skinny

If you won the lottery, how would you spend the money?: I would make sure all my friends were taken care of

What do you want to accomplish during your life?: To know I made some kind of difference in someones life

If you could break any habit, what would it be?: running my mouth to much

Some Favorites...

Favorite Hobby?: collecting dragons

Favorite Month?: Sept

Favorite Year? (that you've been alive lol): 2004

Favorite Scent?: Jeff

Favorite Body of Water? (lake, ocean, river, etc.): Atlantic

Favorite Genre of Movies?: Sci-Fi

favorite thing to do inside? play with Jeff

favorite thing to do outside? ridint my bike and water skiing



Sweet dreams till sunbeams find you......
me too, I guess  [message #47051 is a reply to message #47025] Sun, 18 November 2007 21:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...do any type of career, what would you do & why?:
Help abused kids and the adults they grow into. Do I need to say why?

...visit any place in the world, where would you go?:
Anywhere my friends are. One place? I'm not really into sightseeing

...learn any new skill, what would you choose to learn to do?:
how to sail a boat

...have anything you wanted right now, what would it be & why?:
I have pretty much all the material things I want. I'd like to be happy, though.

...eat anything right now, what would it be?:
An apple

...change one thing about yourself, what would it be?:
This is in the present, right? I'd be slim and fit.

...fly, where would you go and why?:
India to visit my son. If we get a cat sitter we'll go at christmas

...make 3 wishes, what would you wish for?:
Enough money to do the things I want to do, a long enough life to achieve them, enough further wishes to achieve it all

...meet someone from the past, who would you meet?:
My father's father

Random...

What's your largest desire in life?:
health and happiness

What would you do if you knew today was your last day on earth?:
Nothing much different form today, except panic

What first impression do you hope others get from you?:
calm, kind, confident

What embarrasses you most about yourself?:
singing

What animal do you think you resemble most & why?:
No idea

If you won the lottery, how would you spend the money?:
kind of depends how much, but I'd invest it to provide first for my family and then the things I want to achieve for abused kids

What do you want to accomplish during your life?:
Just make a positive difference, even for just one person

If you could break any habit, what would it be?:
overeating

Some Favorites...

Favorite Hobby?:
Sailing, but I haven't sailed anything I enjoy for years and years

Favorite Month?:
June

Favorite Year? (that you've been alive lol):
1965, but I hated it, too

Favorite Scent?:
fresh mown lawn

Favorite Body of Water? (lake, ocean, river, etc.):
The Thames

Favorite Genre of Movies?:
nothing special

Favorite thing to do outside?:
I'm learning to rollerblade! But sailing comes first

Favorite thing to do inside?:
Hmm. Well, it no longer happens



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
From the Office of the Minister of Justice:  [message #47058 is a reply to message #47047] Mon, 19 November 2007 03:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cossie is currently offline  cossie

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Dear Gordon

I attach a transcript of a case heard last week in the Queen's Bench Division; it all seems perfectly straightforward.

Unfortunately, the appellant - the fellow with the unlikely name of Mr. Whitewater Kid - absconded while his guard was tying his shoelace - the guard's shoelace, that is, not Mr ... well, know what I mean. It seems he managed to escape to North Carolina. Of course, I demanded his return immediately, but those upstart Americans have had the gall to refuse.

I enclose a copy of the rubbish they sent me. The Attorney-General (that strange Baroness Scotland woman who sits in the corner at Cabinet meetings) has consulted our foremost linguistic advisor, Sir Hamish McCossie, and he testifies that the argument is entire rubbish. No-one by the name of Boy has ever appeared in the records of Yorkshire, and in the case of the Kid person, Sir Hamish avers that the name is unknown in Scotland and that in any event anyone who has to leave Scotland in a hurry deserves all he gets. Sir Hamish is confident that the heathen tenor of the names indicates, beyond all doubt, that they are of Welsh origin.

It really is most irritating. We were unable to find a suitable place in South Wales, but accommodation was arranged further North, in Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwylllantysiliogogogoch. The room had been dusted, and the bedding and a light bulb had been changed.

I've no idea why those damned rebellious colonials are sticking their noses into Welsh politics, but in view of the substantial public funds invested in dusting and preparing a room at Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerych ... well, you know where I mean ... I think we should make a strong response. Can you remember where we parked the spare gunboats after that Falklands business?

Please let me have a reply as soon as possible.

Jack.

PS - are you still on for a drink at No. 10 on Thursday lunchtime?



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
From the Office of the Prime Minister.  [message #47059 is a reply to message #47058] Mon, 19 November 2007 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear Jack,

I've read your letter, or at least the bits that weren't in Welsh.

I have given the matter some thought, but I can't remember where the devil we put those gunboats.

Anyway, you know I had to go to the United States to talk to that Bush fellow - intolerable little blackguard - a couple of weeks ago. I took the opportunity to look around the place and, believe me, if that Kid person has to live there, he's being punished much more severely than anything we could have arranged. The blighters don't even know how to speak English properly, and you can't get a decent cup of tea for love or money.

I think we'll just ignore the Yanks; that's what I always try to do!

Best Wishes,

Gordon.

PS - Of course I can spare you ten minutes on Thursday. Don't forget to bring me the usual half-dozen bottles of malt!!!!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: From the Office of the Prime Minister.  [message #47063 is a reply to message #47059] Mon, 19 November 2007 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cossie wrote:

Dear Jack,

Oh my, Cossie. You really did choose a bad name for Mr Brown's correspondent: Dear Oscar has said it all:

Jack?... No, there is very little music in the name Jack, if any at all, indeed. It does not thrill. It produces absolutely no vibrations.... I have known several Jacks, and they all, without exception, were more than usually plain. Besides, Jack is a notorious domesticity for John! And I pity any woman who is married to a man called John. She would probably never be allowed to know the entrancing pleasure of a single moment’s solitude. The only really safe name is Ernest.

Oscar Wilde, The Importance of Being Earnest, Act 1

Yours Ernest (aka J F R)



The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
Re: Stay me with flagons...for I am sick with love.  [message #47069 is a reply to message #47026] Mon, 19 November 2007 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ChowanFarmBoy is currently offline  ChowanFarmBoy

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Hey Anthony! Yep, that bit was Hebrew. Our best friend Daniel sent it to us and he told us it was part of the Sabbath blessing his mom says on Friday night when the candles are lit for supper. It's a blessing for boy and he said it mean "May you become like Ephriam and Messassh." I thing that's what it means anyway. It's so cool she puts her hands on his head when she says the words. If we're there we get blessed too. Thanks for doing the survey man, that was wicked cool to read your thoughts.
Re: From the Office of the Prime Minister.  [message #47070 is a reply to message #47059] Mon, 19 November 2007 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ChowanFarmBoy is currently offline  ChowanFarmBoy

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So it's come down to gunboats huh!? Well, you better just watch out because we have C.S.S. Sumpter...

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...and C.S.S. Alabama...
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...on patrol!

And you can yell and rant all ya want to, but we're not givin' up The Kid and The Boy to do time in some Welsh dump. Us Tarheel boys know how to fight if you push us into a corner!
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That's Eldon kneeling down and Jonathan on the right with two of our faithful henchmen, Rick and Paul! So you better watch out!

But to show ya there's no hard feelings, we wish Her Majesty The Queen and His Royal Highness The Duke of Edinburgh a very happy Sixtieth Wedding Anniversary.

[Updated on: Mon, 19 November 2007 15:32]

Re:  [message #47071 is a reply to message #46982] Mon, 19 November 2007 16:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Cool Survey!  [message #47081 is a reply to message #46921] Tue, 20 November 2007 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael-Kent Dobison is currently offline  Michael-Kent Dobison

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Location: South Africa - Gauteng
Registered: January 2007
Messages: 309



Deep Thinking Survey...
If you could...

...do any type of career, what would you do & why?:
I would like to be a musician, I feel that music soothes the savage beast and I enjoy soothing Wink

...visit any place in the world, where would you go?:
Vietnam and Cambodia, to see all the cutural influances and see the old life.

...learn any new skill, what would you choose to learn to do?:
Speak, read and write French, German, Spanish and Japanees. Just so when I travel the world I know how to ask where the loo is.

...have anything you wanted right now, what would it be & why?:
A man to hold me and love me. I feel lonely.

...eat anything right now, what would it be?:
Sushi, I just love sushi.

...change one thing about yourself, what would it be?:
I would not change a thing, I love who I am.

...fly, where would you go and why?:
Dallas, to see an old friend.

...make 3 wishes, what would you wish for?:
This really is a hard one, because every time I think this one thropugh I come up with an alternative answer. So I take the 5th.

...meet someone from the past, who would you meet?:
Captain of the Titanic, so that I could smack him up side the head.

What's your largest desire in life?:
Not to be alone, it just scares me that I may die alone.

What would you do if you knew today was your last day on earth?:
I would try and make the best of it, do all I could and be happy with the fact that I had tried. Oh by the way where are we going, you said last day on Earth...hehehe

What first impression do you hope others get from you?:
That I am approchable and easy going.

What embarrasses you most about yourself?:
The fact that I get embarrased so easliy

What animal do you think you resemble most & why?:
A Great White Shark, an easy mover, quick to act, and fast on the uptake. The world is my oyster, and I am at the top of the food chaine in my own little way

If you won the lottery, how would you spend the money?:
Pay off all mine and my folks debt and take it from there.

What do you want to accomplish during your life?:
To be the best that I can be at what I can. To perfect what can be perfected and to Love like I have never been hurt...

If you could break any habit, what would it be?:
Smoking

Some Favorites...

Favorite Hobby?:
Playing the piano, building puzzles, reading, building whatever, listening to music, attending concerts/plays/dinner shows

Favorite Month?:
Any month when the sun is shinning

Favorite Year? (that you've been alive lol):
Every year has its ups and downs, but I would not be able to pin point one. Maybe 1991 & 1999 the years that my sister were born.

Favorite Scent?:
" Man in the morning "

Favorite Body of Water? (lake, ocean, river, etc.):
Indian Ocean

Favorite Genre of Movies?:
Anything goes

Favorite thing to do outside?:
Just lie in the sun and soak it all up.

Favorite thing to do inside?:
I dont like to be inside, but if I have to I will play on my PS2



"And so the lion fell in love with the Lamb"
"What a stupid Lamb"
"What a sick, masochistic lion"
Hey! (Holds up hands in surrender) ...  [message #47083 is a reply to message #47063] Tue, 20 November 2007 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cossie is currently offline  cossie

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... it's not my fault, honestly! The Minister of Justice and Lord Chancellor is the Right Honourable Jack Straw, MP. I claim insanity on the part of the Prime Minister!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Geez, I heard that the US of A had economic problems ...  [message #47084 is a reply to message #47070] Tue, 20 November 2007 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cossie is currently offline  cossie

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... but I didn't realise that the US Navy was THAT out of date! I've written to Gordon suggesting that we attack immediately. Paddle Steamers would probably do the trick. It's high time the Brits were top nation again!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: Geez, I heard that the US of A had economic problems ...  [message #47088 is a reply to message #47084] Tue, 20 November 2007 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ChowanFarmBoy is currently offline  ChowanFarmBoy

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Naw, them pixtures was jes ta git y'all lured in. Wonct we'uns git y'all up in t'the Sound we'll be lettin' loose the real Confederate Navy. We got a mess a steel plated canoes we'uns gwine t'use t'board y'all's ships. We fixin' t'use all the blond Tarheel boys we can muster for the boarders and y'all's sailors git one eyefull a'them boys and ya'll can fergit it, 'cuz us Tarheel boys know how t'git right distractin'
Just living for now.  [message #47089 is a reply to message #47071] Tue, 20 November 2007 14:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ChowanFarmBoy is currently offline  ChowanFarmBoy

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We're both trying to live for today, and have as much good times as we can for senior year. Everything will change once we leave for college next fall. "Being a couple" where we live just is not an option. Like I said and like Jonny agrees, not in our lifetime.
Distractin'? That's sure an understatement.  [message #47090 is a reply to message #47088] Tue, 20 November 2007 14:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You distract me and I'm sitting next to you in English! I'm so distracted I'm demented! Not to mention turningtostoneitis. You get any studlier looking and you're gonna have a very "hard" time at wrestling practice.

ROFLMAO. Figuratively that is. If I was literally doing that she'd give me a referral.
I think this is as good a time as any ...  [message #47102 is a reply to message #47088] Wed, 21 November 2007 02:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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... to retire defeated. I did think of responding, but I can't find a Tarheel Dictionary on Amazon, so I suffer a severe disadvantage.

Still, if Gordon decides to go ahead, I might come along for the distraction!



For a' that an' a' that,
It's comin' yet for a' that,
That man tae man, the worrld o'er
Shall brithers be, for a' that.
Re: I think this is as good a time as any ...  [message #47111 is a reply to message #47102] Wed, 21 November 2007 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The Harper / Collins Reference Library: American Slang, Robert L. Chapman. Abridged. ISBN#0-06-109284-3



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Thanks  [message #47116 is a reply to message #47071] Wed, 21 November 2007 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Whitewaterkid is currently offline  Whitewaterkid

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Thanks for the kind words. Believe me, we're doing everything we can to make this work for the long term, through college and afterwards. Where we live, and you know all about that because you've sailed the ICW and the Sound, is not a gay-friendly place. If we manage to find a way through this we'll always be in the closet and our "life together" will have to be a secret one. There's just no other way to do it here. That's one of the reasons I want to find a life in a larger city that's more accepting, but Donny can't leave the life and future that he has here. I don't want to stay, and he can't leave.

Other guys have got through worse things than this, so we're still optimistic! Who knows!? By the time we graduate from college we might have Civil Unions in our country like every other civilized place on earth. Even Mexico has them now!

If I could click my fingers, and cause religious fundamentalism of all sects to vanish, I would do it. The Christian Right has way too much say and sway in U.S. politics and the justice system.

Thanks for the pictures of the Chesapeake log canoe sailing and of the skipjack. We sail a 31' sloop.
Re: Just living for now.  [message #47130 is a reply to message #47089] Thu, 22 November 2007 11:44 Go to previous message
acam is currently offline  acam

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"Being a couple is not an option" wrote Eldon.

But it is. I thought exactly the same in the 1950s when all homosexual acts were criminal (not that it stopped me). In 1955 or 56 I introduced two friends who fell for each other and they are still together.

On the other hand it is not easy to decide whether one has found the person that you will spend the rest of your life with. Without experience of many people one doesn't know how to choose, but having the experience of variety may give one a taste for variety and lead to serial mono-andry (or monogamy).

In the end you have to decide and then make it happen. Lots of things could stop you; with luck it may not happen.

And, I promise you, it *is* possible for a promiscuous person to give himself to another "forsaking all others" and for it to last.

Love,

Anthony
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