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Archbishop on Gays  [message #47043] Sun, 18 November 2007 09:44 Go to next message
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1293265,00.html

Not being a Christian I do not think it would be appropriate for me to offer a direct comment. (If a discussion ensues here I might have something to say.)

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Re: Archbishop on Gays  [message #47050 is a reply to message #47043] Sun, 18 November 2007 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tutu makes very good sense.



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Re: Archbishop on Gays  [message #47055 is a reply to message #47043] Mon, 19 November 2007 01:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I belong to the United Church of Christ. I think the Archbishop Desmond Tutu would feel quite comfortable there. Not all Christian churches are hung up on issues of sexuality. Some are actually concerned with widows, orphans and the poor. Imagine that?



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Desmond Tutu  [message #47056 is a reply to message #47043] Mon, 19 November 2007 02:18 Go to previous message
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The former Archbishop of Capetown (he's now retired) was a leading voice against apartheid in South Africa before the release of Nelson Mandela. Both of them are, in my view, among the greatest men in the world today - men who can be described as truly good.

The Tutu quote is taken from a pre-recorded BBC radio programme entitled 'From Calvary to Lambeth', which will be broadcast on BBC Radio 4 at 8.00.p.m. on Tuesday 27 November.

For those not familiar with the Anglican Church, it's a worldwide Church, often known as the Episcopal Church outside the UK. The titular head is the Archbishop of Canterbury, but each national unit of the church, led by an Archbishop, has a great deal of autonomy. The appointment of Gene Robinson as Bishop of New Hampshire caused some controversy but, as ever, this was largely confined to a peripheral reactionary minority. Howevever, there is strong and solid opposition to the appointment of gay priests, let alone gay bishops, from the Central African Archbishops. The Archbishop of Canterbury is obviously concerned about a break-up of the Church, but instead of providing strong moral leadership and addressing priorities such as those mentioned by Desmond Tutu, he is dithering in the search of compromise, or as some would say, appeasement.

It's worth mentioning that the Anglican churches of Central Africa don't have a record of high standards of leadership. The Archbishop of Harare (Zimbabwe) is closely associated with Robert Mugabe and has remained silent about the appaling human rights abuses in his Archbishopric.



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