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"Porn, the scourge of the noughties" [message #47221]

Wed, 28 November 2007 08:24

timmy

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Location: UK, in Devon
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Last night UK television carried a "Sex in the Noughties" opinion piece / titillation piece / documentary. One of the "conclusions" it came up with was that (I am paraphrasing, but so did it) "Porn is bad and depersonalises sex."

I was half listening, not watching, but the discussion was not aligned with my own experience of porn.

They said (and it was a generalisation used to make a point) "Porn shows genitals, and is just genitals. Faces aren't involved, so there is no connection with the person." I find that odd. Apart from enjoying looking at a cute face, I find that the "genitals only" porn I look at lets me identify with a character involved, and lets me decide to be him or his friend. It is seeing the face that depersonalises it, because the face makes me know that this is a stranger.

Provided the cast is of lawful age to be featured (please let's not get into a discussion about age of characters, we all know the answer to that one) and the photos or films are shot with the informed consent of all involved, I see porn as a simple role play exercise for solo fantasy, or for couples (or just people together) to watch for fun and inspiration.

The TV show concluded that it was, however, a bad thing because it attunes and conditions people to "Extreme Sex".

I have no idea what "Extreme Sex" is, but I rather think I'd like some!

[Updated on: Wed, 28 November 2007 08:28]

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Re: "Porn, the scourge of the noughties" [message #47237 is a reply to message #47221]

Wed, 28 November 2007 18:44

acam

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Location: UK
Registered: July 2007
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I don't watch television so I missed it. Porn engages me sometimes and sometimes I get bored very quickly.

I don't think porn is elevating, but some of the stories I read are. Maybe they aren't porn, but some bits certainly are (that means I have no doubt). I do enjoy pictures of (mostly male) genitals whether or not there is a face attached.

I don't think porn can do me much harm as I'm 73 years old next week, so I'm a) set in my ways b) no longer capable of rape or most sex crimes. But I doubt whether at any age I was vulnerable to porn damage. When I was young and randy (say from 20 to 50) I didn't take advantage of the young and beautiful young men I got to know.

The attitude of the typical macho male to women is far more pernicious, in my opinion. Football supporters in a group, half drunk and raucous seem to me to be a danger to the female half of the population.

I think whether porn is bad depends on how the user is affected by it. Since I enjoy sex because it gives me an opportunity to be nice to someone (as well as be pleasured back) I don't think porn has done me any harm.
[But then I'm perfect and I would say that wouldn't I?]

How do you think one can tell the difference between good and bad porn?

Anthony

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