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Hey guys...errm how's the gay scene in Canada?
My mom just told me we'll be moving to the States OR to Canada after I graduate...hopefully...
Actually she prefers moving to Italy coz that's wher most of our relatives n her side of the family live (father's side's in the States)...
yama nashi, ochi nashi, imi nashi
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marc
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Just like anywhere, it depends where you end up.
Any idea where you will be moving?
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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I am not widely travelled but of all the cities I know I think Toronto is the most civilised and also one of the best for a gay man to live in. I only spent a week there and it was in summer. I hear it is very cold sometimes.
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Anthony
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Benji
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According to a few of my freinds in Canada, the gay's are viewed with more tolerance than the states. Winters are harsh.
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marc
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As in all places, it depends where you end up living....
Canada has some gay areas,,,,,, and some places i wouldnt travel...... Just as does every other nation......
One must check out the area...... places and people vary...... attitudes do as well....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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ProfZodiac
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Anywhere on the coasts for the US and you should be fine. (Well, not so much in the Carolinas or Georgia, but there's the exception to the rule.)
Canada, stick with the cities.
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marc
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Well i wouldnt say anywhere on the coasts.....
I've been to places on both coasts I wouldnt live in as a gay man....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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huwar
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ummm... yes, well Canada... all jurisdictions acknowledge the legality of same sex civil marriages.
Down the road there is a B & B catering to gays; the operators are pillars of the community. Further down the road a B & B ceased operation in preference to renting a double bed to a couple guys. Then there is the small town where an annual gay pride parade occurs in which both gays and straights join. Further on still is the city where Baptist congregations recently convened to discuss accomodation of homosexuals. Then there is the urban blue collar community where the nation's largest daily took on the Roman church in support of a highschool senior who wanted to take his boyfriend to the Senior Prom. (The gay boy got his way.)
Sure we have our share of bigots. We don't flaunt our sexuality any more than the straights do. The ruffians like justification for their actions - gay bashing or swarming, what difference!
In my own religious community - a "traditional" church - we take the bigots head-on and keep them quiet.
don't ask the way to peace; peace is the way
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Told you they were civilized!
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Anthony
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We have a lot to learn from our Northern neighbors.
Youth crisis hot-line 866-488-7386, 24 hr (U.S.A.)
There are people who want to help you cope with being you.
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ProfZodiac
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Would you disagree, however, that the coasts are better than the middle?
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marc
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Well,
I lived in Boston, Cape Cod, Providence, New York......
I live in Ohio now for a reason....
There are places inland that are as accepting as some few that are on coastal areas.....
Actually I don't see how the presence or absence of salt water has anything to do with the relitave safety of a gay person....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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ProfZodiac
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The presence or absence of salt water isn't the factor, it's just a matter of coincidence that the most gay-friendly states are generally on the coasts.
Besides - I can get married to anyone I want, boy or girl. Your state is the reason we still have an idiot in the White House, and an idiot who proposed a Constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage on the federal level.
Maybe you've found a good enclave, but I will never in my life believe that Ohio is more gay-friendly than the Northeast, or even the Mid-Atlantic.
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marc
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Adam wrote:
> The presence or absence of salt water isn't the factor, it's just a matter of coincidence that the most gay-friendly states are generally on the coasts.
Ahh.... Now we are talking about states..... It is hard to live in a state.... I live in a town which is a small part of a state.
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> Besides - I can get married to anyone I want, boy or girl. Your state is the reason we still have an idiot in the White House, and an idiot who proposed a Constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage on the federal level.
I was unaware that this is now a political discussion.....
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> Maybe you've found a good enclave, but I will never in my life believe that Ohio is more gay-friendly than the Northeast, or even the Mid-Atlantic.
Well, as I said previously.... There is a reason why I live in Ohio as opposed to the east coast. But I didn't say what that reason was.....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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daffey44
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My daughter is gay and now lives in Canada. Because I love her, I try to keep current on political and social trends in that nation. Gays are guaranteed full civil rights in the Canadian "Charter of Rights". My daughter and her companion have not yet married, but they are together over 10 years and are recognized under law as common-law spouses. The largest Protestant denomination in Canada is the United Church, which strongly advocated same-gender marriage well before it became law.
In the U.S., the situation varies significantly by state. Massachusetts is the only state where same-gender marriages are recognized by law, but several other states register same-gender domestic partnerships with varying legal significance to that term. California, Washington state, New York, and a few others are generally accommodating even if the voters enacted ballot propositions that prohibit same-gender marriages.
However, the political climate in the U.S. overall is set by national politics. The current administration is homophobic. Even married gays in Massachusetts are prohibited from filing joint tax returns or obtaining couple's passports. Visitors from Canada, Spain, South Africa, the Netherlands, and other places where same-gender marriages are legal may have problems in the U.S. relating to spousal rights (hospital visitations, inheritance, the legal privilege against a person being a witness against a spouse in a federal criminal trial).
If you can put up with the cold -- it is currently +5F (-15C) in the central prairies where my daughter lives -- Canada will be far more welcoming. It is also cold in the U.S. where I live -- +67F (+19C) in southern California.
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marc
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Many places offer a welcoming atmosphere to gays....
But the welcome wagon is little consolation when on a dark street with 5-6 thugs kicking the shit out of you....
It doesnt matter what country you are in, the potential is always there....
One needs to be careful....
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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daffy.....The US Supreme court rulled that a marrage in a country which rcognized that marrage must have the same respect of law here in the US. IN other words a gay couple married in Canada where it is recognized as legal, must be recognized by US law. If person is English and married under English law, then if they come to The US for a visit, then the marrage will have the same affect here as in England.
If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.
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marc
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This must be very recient....
I saw nothing regarding federalization of gay unions on any level while reasearching that subject for the last paper I handed in.....
Also how does this affect the laws regarding blanket nonrecognition?
I'd like to read the decision.
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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