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Just an update [message #47896]

Sun, 30 December 2007 22:00

Senne

Likes it here

Location: USA
Registered: July 2007
Messages: 301

marc wished me to tell this to you all

and i quote

"???
go to iomfats and tell them that i will not post there again..... tell them to stop talking about me like I am a plague......"

Marc, I know u r upset, but u miss the point [message #47902 is a reply to message #47896]

Mon, 31 December 2007 00:15

timmy

Has no life at all

Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13800

The point is very simple. You are not a plague, and you are welcome. When you are stressed you exhibit behaviours that are not welcome. Folks would like to help you but have no idea how. Some are disturbed by the unwelcome behaviours and they get afraid of posting.

I think we are unanimous that you are a steadfast friend and are welcome. And we are equally unanimous that the unwelcome behaviours need to stop.

[Updated on: Mon, 31 December 2007 01:46]

Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School

Re: Marc, I know u r upset, but u miss the point [message #47906 is a reply to message #47902]

Mon, 31 December 2007 01:09

Senne

Likes it here

Location: USA
Registered: July 2007
Messages: 301

timmy,

okay not to get pointy about anything but maybe if you could give him ricky back{his one source of happiness besides me} then his issues would cease
but you cant can you?

Re: Marc, I know u r upset, but u miss the point [message #47907 is a reply to message #47906]

Mon, 31 December 2007 01:19

timmy

Has no life at all

Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
Messages: 13800

I have done my best, my friend. I went to Greenwich Village to the spot where Ricky was clubbed to death, and I spoke to him for Marc. I wept. Not the same tears, but real ones.

The place was odd. I mean it felt odd. Someone, something was there. That presence relaxed as we spoke.

And, whatever each of us may believe, Ricky watches over Marc.

I would give him to him if he were mine to give.

[Updated on: Mon, 31 December 2007 01:43]

Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School

Re: Just an update [message #47913 is a reply to message #47896]

Mon, 31 December 2007 03:53

Roger

Really getting into it

Location: USA
Registered: February 2007
Messages: 522

Jordon.... I wish I could give Marc his Ricky back just like I wish He could give me my Mark back, but I cant and he cant. Timmy cant eithere but what Timmy and I and the others who love and care about Marc can do is be a friend. I Want to be able to visit Marc this summer when the weather is better, but I cant if he keeps falling apart. Even little Curtis wants to help even tho all this is way over his head. The only way to try and fill the black hole that was left when our loves were taken is to fill it with friends and those we know care about us. All Marc has to do is talk to us like the friends we are.

If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.

Re: Marc, I know u r upset, but u miss the point [message #47932 is a reply to message #47907]

Mon, 31 December 2007 18:48

CallMePaul

Really getting into it

Location: U.S.A.
Registered: April 2007
Messages: 907

What a beautiful and caring thing to do, Timmy. I teared up when I read it. I believe Marc knows he has loving friends here. There are simply things going on right now that are stressing him. We will give him time to calm down and for the situation to improve. Then we hope he will reconsider. You are much loved, Marc.

Youth crisis hot-line 866-488-7386, 24 hr (U.S.A.)
There are people who want to help you cope with being you.

Re: Just an update [message #47933 is a reply to message #47913]

Mon, 31 December 2007 21:25

acam

On fire!

Location: UK
Registered: July 2007
Messages: 1849

I do feel I'm an outsider. I didn't know about Ricky. I'd like to help but being ignorant is quite an obstacle.

There is more pain here than I realised and I think it means there is less I can do or say to help.

If it helps, my Peter died two years ago. It was 45 years since I'd had sex with him and I was still upset. His wife was jealous of us but wrote to tell me that he had died. She had no need - as I implied we hadn't given her anything to be jealous about since 1961! She appreciated that there had been something special between us. They were married in 1962 or 1963!

But when I telephoned in 1991 (I guess) he wanted to see me again and invited me and my wife (we were married in 1963) to dinner. And we drove through London from north to south (two hours for thirty miles) and had dinner and came back. And it wasn't sensible to do any more and then he died.

Marc, if an old man can do anything to help, I will. Tell me about it.

Love
Anthony

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