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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi0HbrhM2hg
ROFLMAO. Can you imagine watching this in school in this day and age? Tell ya what, if the older dude wanted to buy me nice presents, he could suck on my dick all afternoon if he wanted! And, uh oh! You know what's going to happen in that motel room during "pay back time!" Bet Jimmy had a great time! )
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timmy
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Now be fair. With that moustache and those dark glasses...... Who would go with that guy.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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"Jimmy hadn't had so much fun in a long time."
"Ralph was generous and took Jimmy lots of interesting places and buy lots of nice presents."
Sounds like the foundation of a good relationship  Of course, I'm sure if Jimmy knew what a homosexual was he probably would have asked Mike over himself...
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Actually I think the film contained a lot of good advice on protecting yourself from a predator. If it were remade today I would hope they'd correctly identify the men as pedophiles rather than homosexuals. But in that day it was assumed that all homosexuals were on the lookout for young boys. After all, society reasoned, you became a homosexual by being recruited at an early age.
I'm glad I wasn't shown that film in school. Already knowing I had those perverted thoughts, it would have reinforced my belief that I was one sick kid. After all, the film said the man had a sickness of the mind and the sickness was homosexuality. I scoured the library in town for everything I could find on homosexuality. There was scant information but everything I found reinforced what the film had to say about it. I'm glad you live in more enlightened times so that you can view the film and be able to joke about it. But imagine viewing it as a gay youth back then.
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I have a VCD of it in my "we must never go back there again" collection - films like that screwed up many guys of my generation pretty thoroughly.
Though not enough to stop me at 13/14/15 falling for the attractions of a (slightly) older guy, who offered presents, trips out, attention ... eventually sex ... and later, a hell of a lot of heartbreak and trauma. But back in those days, I thought that homosexuals (as I knew I was) were pretty rare, and I probably wouldn't meet many in my lifetime!
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timmy wrote:
> Now be fair. With that moustache and those dark glasses...... Who would go with that guy.
Actually, I think the moustache is kind cute (shame about the rest of him, and the glasses are a no-no).
But then I would, wouldn't I - having a moustache myself.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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timmy
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Not paedophiles. The boys were clearly past the age of puberty. Paedophilia is attraction to the pre-puberty body form.
The men were depicted as attracted to the same age group that heterosexual men like in girls. The teenager. 
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Dear NW,
Interesting! I was never shown films such as that. When I realised I liked sex with men I was nearly twenty but I drew no boundaries because I found I could have sex with lots of people who *said* they weren't homosexual (the word gay hadn't been invented). I denied it too!
So I tried it on with people who gave no sign and was sometimes successful! So I knew that acknowledging it wasn't important and that those who *would* were really quite numerous.
But I was always a bit of an idealist and felt that getting presents, days out etc without paying (even a nice bottle of claret at dinner) was the next thing to making a prostitute of me. Ooh I was proud. (I was brought up to be a thorough snob, like my parents.) So I cravenly accepted them and swallowed my pride and sometimes agonised over it! I really think I was a bit of a prick about it. Luckily most of those who might confirm that opinion are dead.
Love,
Anthony
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acam wrote:
> Dear NW,
> Interesting! I was never shown films such as that. When I realised I liked sex with men I was nearly twenty but I drew no boundaries because I found I could have sex with lots of people who *said* they weren't homosexual (the word gay hadn't been invented). I denied it too!
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Oh, once I'd got over that first relationship, I wasn't short of guys "who *said* they weren't homosexual" ... that went on into my 20's (I came out in 1979/80, aged 24), and gave up casual sex shortly thereafter when I got into a relationship. My ideal always was a relationship. It still is ...
As regards being too proud to accept presents ... well, my parents were going through a messy divorce, and this guy was setting himself up as an alternative father-figure. So the borderline between him paying for things in that role (before we became physically involved), and treats while we were lovers, got confused. In later life, though, I've usually made it a rule never to buy a partner anything more expensive that they can afford to buy for me.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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Dear NW,
Yes, quite right. I think that's a good way to solve the present conundrum.
But one of the people I had sex with was very cynical about the relationship beteen young men and older men (he was in his thirties - so *very* old) that eventually, almost to punish him I *did* let him buy me things I couldn't afford. I think I've only recently forgiven myself about that.
But between equals I loved buying presents and receiving them. I now think I didn't do it enough.
But of course I wasn't homosexual!! I just liked sex with men. How one deceives oneself!
Love,
Anthony
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>The currently accepted term for an older man interested in teeaged boys is "ephebophile."
Sounds like something your dentist puts on your teeth to prevent tooth decay! ::-)
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Well thanks for the compliment about me, but this is my great-great-great grandfather when he rowed for a college crew.
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