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icon6.gif Drinking is healthful  [message #48567] Tue, 22 January 2008 13:17 Go to next message
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To my friends who enjoy a glass of wine... and those who don't.

As Ben Franklin said: In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is
freedom, in water there is bacteria.

In a number of carefully controlled trials, scientists have
demonstrated that if we drink 1 liter of water each day, at the end of
the year we would have absorbed more than 1 kilo of Escherichia coli,
(E. coli) - bacteria found in feces. In other words, we are
consuming 1 kilo of poop.

However, we do NOT run that risk when drinking wine & beer (or
tequila, rum, whiskey or other liquor) because alcohol has to go
through a purification process of boiling, filtering and/or fermenting.

Remember: Water = Poop, Wine = Health

Therefore, it's better to drink wine and talk stupid, than to drink
water and be full of shit.

There is no need to thank me for this valuable information: I'm
doing it as a public service
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[Updated on: Tue, 22 January 2008 13:40]

Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48568 is a reply to message #48567] Tue, 22 January 2008 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So that's why the water had to be turned into wine in the bible!



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Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48569 is a reply to message #48567] Tue, 22 January 2008 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everyone on the planet is destined to eat a ton of shit before he/she dies...... Is it better to spread it out over the years or choke it all down in the last hour?



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Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48571 is a reply to message #48567] Tue, 22 January 2008 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear Donny,

I do like that poster. If ever you come to Bristol I'll gladly open a bottle or two.

My wife has a sticker on the fridge that says "Life is too short to drink bad wine"

So I have a wine cellar. I think the oldest bottle is 1960 or 1963.

Does anyone else here indulge themselves like this?

Cadillac, Barsac, Burgundy and Beaune,
This old man went rolling home.

Love, hic,
Anthony
icon6.gif I know nothing about wines.  [message #48572 is a reply to message #48571] Tue, 22 January 2008 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, if I ever get to England that offer of a glass of wine sounds pretty good.

I have to say that I really don't know anything about wines. My parents have one glass of wine with dinner, and it's either chablis or merlot because those are the ones dad likes. We don't have a wine cellar and I confess that sometimes the wine comes out of those cardboard cartons with the plastic spout. We're not like Jon's parents. Jon's father has a real wine cellar that's been a wine cellar since Colonial days. He keep a record book of when the wines are bought, and when they become ready to drink, and they have lots of real European wines. Jon's father knows a whole lot about German and French wines. At Christmas they had a case of wine called Schloss Vollrads which we younger guests and Jon nearly got drunk drinking it was so good, until the parents caught us drinking it.

Jon's father also drinks Langavulin whiskey that costs a fortune too. It has to get ordered special.

Me and Jon and Dan and the rest of our gang don't drink too much. In fact not hardly at all after our experiment with cars and trees summer before last. That really scared us.Smile
Wine  [message #48578 is a reply to message #48572] Tue, 22 January 2008 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear Donny,

I was lucky. My father joined me to the wine society in 1959 (I think) and I've been drinking the wine society's stuff ever since. I remember when some of its cellars were in the basement of the London Palladium - a famous theatre - and I drove my father there in 1958 to collect the wine he had ordered (my father never learned to drive!!). I was also privileged to know John Walkden, the father of a girl who married a friend of mine and who came on holiday with us many times to Scotland. We would buy single malts wherever we went.

I have quite a few including Lagavulin and Talisker and Bowmore and Highland Park and Jura and Bunnahabhain and Laphroaig etc and one or two *really* old ones - you know the sort of thing "bottled in 1967 after being kept in cask for twenty years".

The wine society is interesting. In 1871 the powers that be thought that the Great Exhibition of 1851 had been so successful that they ought to have another. So they did. But Victorians had got stuffier in the intervening twenty years (and stupider I think) so the wine on show was mostly in barrels and at the end of the exhibition they didn't know what to do with it. So they formed a dining club to drink it up over a series of grand dinners. They omitted to tell the treasurer and after three years they discovered that he had been charging for the dinners (quite right) but spending the income on replacing the wine (not exactly the idea) and they had more wine than they started with. So they formed the International Exhibition Wine Society Limited to sell the wines to members. This is hard to believe but it is TRUE. Now it is the largest independent wine seller in the UK. It's a non-profit organisation and each member is only allowed to own a single share and the shares have to be cashed on the member's death. As an institution it is unique.

And at this moment I'm sitting with a small glass of the Society's Exhibition Viejo Oloroso Dulce (old smelly sweet) sherry and I drink your health.

Love,
Anthony
Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48581 is a reply to message #48567] Tue, 22 January 2008 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>Therefore, it's better to drink wine and talk stupid, than to drink
water and be full of shit.

Oh my God! Thank you for that. I'm still laughing. Sad)



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Re: I know nothing about wines.  [message #48589 is a reply to message #48572] Tue, 22 January 2008 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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wine at my grandpas comes out of a barrel in the basment. One of the Tennants makes wine each year. Grandpa always buys a barrel or red and a barrel of white. They aint got no names that I know of unless you call it Zimmerlee vinyards. I know this, if you dont drink much, one glass will put you on your butt.



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Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48590 is a reply to message #48567] Tue, 22 January 2008 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Confused?? Thanks, Eldon..........let's see scratch off pork.....milk (it was for calves afterall).....creamora.....sugar.....water.....hummm!! yeah I think I can fit in the wine and beer.
Re: Wine  [message #48593 is a reply to message #48578] Tue, 22 January 2008 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well if you will let me I will toast you back with my glass of bubbly and refreshing Mountain Dew, vintage two days ago probably.

It was interesting to hear from you about the wine societies and I told Jonathan about this thread, so we'll see if he feels like rejoining the forum.

I have heard of that Laphroaig whisky, and I think Jon's father still has some of it. I tasted it and I thought it was like drinking liquid wood smoke but Jon told me the aroma and the taste were from the peat that is used to roast the grains.

In our State you can buy beer and wines nearly everywhere. All the food stores have beer and wine sections, but only the State stores are licensed to sell spirits. The State stores carry a full line of most things, but for fancy whiskies and stuff like rare and expensive single malt Scotch you have to order it special. Most people just drive up to Virginia and buy what they want and bring it back, even though that is technically against the laws of both States. It has to do with collecting the taxes on alcohol.

During the era of Prohibition in the 1920's there were lots of stills operating around our area because lots of corn and grain were grown here and still are. And the waterways and rivers were used on moonless nights to get the illegal liquor out to sea and the rumrunners who would take it to New York and Miami or other places.

I read what Curt said about winemaking. Homemade wines are really potent! My grandfather makes wine from our local Scuppernong grapes and it's like drinking fire. I think it must really be brandy or something. In the fall we make cider and we let some of it get hard and then we make applejack which will also knock you on your ass.
Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48596 is a reply to message #48567] Tue, 22 January 2008 23:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't know where you get your water from -- you certainly shouldn't be finding E. Coli in tap water! In this country, if it's detected, people are warned to boil their water first. Fortunately it happens very rarely.

A little thought demonstrates that those figures must be wrong. If you drink a litre of water a day, that would be 365 litres a year. A litre of tap water weighs almost exactly a kilogram. If your water was 1/365th bacteria, you would certainly see it: the water would appear cloudy or dirty to the eye. And you'd be very foolhardy to drink it.

Wine, on the other hand, has traditionally had peasants stomping around in it with their bare feet. I don't even want to think about where they've been, or what skin complaints they might have!

David
Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48598 is a reply to message #48596] Tue, 22 January 2008 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48607 is a reply to message #48598] Wed, 23 January 2008 01:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nah, hell! Down yar iffn water gits a mite clouded, we figger' it's jes them min'rals a'floatin' round in it, an' drink it anyways.
Re: Wine  [message #48612 is a reply to message #48593] Wed, 23 January 2008 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, Donny,

Essence of bonfire! I think Laphroaig is the peatiest, but there are many others if you like a less smoky taste.

Here you can buy any sort of alcohol from most grocers and supermarkets as well as mail order. There are also shops called 'off-licences' (licensed to sell liquor for consumption 'off' the premises) where you can buy all kinds. They are common. I guess there are four or five less than half a mile from here.

I was really surprised when I bought a bottle in New York that I had to carry it in a brown paper bag! We are more relaxed about it here.

Love,
Anthony
Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48613 is a reply to message #48607] Wed, 23 January 2008 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear Donny,

I use water to make tea or coffee. I don't drink it neat! Bristol water quite often tastes of the chlorine they use to disinfect it.

You know I just realised I drink four or five times as much wine as neat water. Almost the only neat water that I get in my mouth is when I clean my teeth.

Love,
Anthony
Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48614 is a reply to message #48613] Wed, 23 January 2008 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hate drinking swimming pool water, so we filter ours at our drinking water tap. Very cheap to do. Gets rid of chlorine and long chain hydrocarbons.



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Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48616 is a reply to message #48613] Wed, 23 January 2008 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Living on the farm, and away from the town water supply, we get our drinking and everything else water from wells. because we live on the coastal plain, nearly at water level, the water table is fairly high, and the water really isn't all that bad. It has some "iron" taste that we treat, and it gets softened in the treatment too. For coffee and tea and general drinking we have a large bottled water machine that gives chilled or hot water. We go through about four of the water carboys a week.

The trouble with untreated water is that you don't get the fluorine treatment that prevents tooth decay, so if you're not the sort of family who visits the dentist every six months for checkups like we do, you generally have bad teeth. That's one way how girls judge boys down here, by the condition of their teeth. Like stud horses. There's nothing worse than seeing an otherwise attractive person and go up to speak to them and they smile and you're like "Whoa! Dude get to the dentist, teeth aren't supposed to be that color!" I had braces up to last summer so I didn't smile much but now Jon tells me I grin so much I'm like the Cheshire Cat. Whatever that is.

Off to school.

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Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48623 is a reply to message #48616] Wed, 23 January 2008 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear Donny,

When I was growing up the idea of adding fluoride to water hadn't been thought of. But I did have braces on my teeth. What a relief it was when they were finally removed!

Your distillation of philosophy is just marvellous and I don't think I dare tell your golfing stories!

Love,
Anthony
Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48640 is a reply to message #48623] Thu, 24 January 2008 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Anthony!
It's strange, but fluoride treatments applied directly to teeth even twice a year are better than fluoride treated water if consumed all year. My dentist told me that. Fluoride is actually harmful to the body in certain ways. They think it's one of the causes of Alzheimer's Disease. They think aluminum is a cause too so we shouldn't use anti-perspirant deodorant or cook in aluminum pots. So fluoride toothpastes and regular fluoride dental treatments do more to prevent tooth decay.
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Re: Drinking is healthful  [message #48644 is a reply to message #48640] Thu, 24 January 2008 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear Donny,

Well I should be OK then. I've never ever used a deodorant. Believe it or not, I *like* the way I smell.

Yes, I've heard that fluoride in water is harmful, but I don't know whether I believe it - after all there are places where the water naturally has fluoride in it and the people that live in such places don't seem to have worse Alzheimers than the rest of us.

My dentist, when I had braces was Mr Bernard. When my father knew him at university he was Bernard Ersden but he found the foreign surname irking and became Bernard Bernard! Then, during my treatment, his wife died and he came to visit us with his au pere who was Spanish. she had scarcely any English and he had no Spanish so he wanted my father to interpret between them. He proposed marriage and was accepted, there in our dining room!

I don't expect to hear the gay equivalent of that story - well not this week anyway!

Love,
Anthony
The way males smell.  [message #48646 is a reply to message #48644] Thu, 24 January 2008 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm thinking about starting a new thread to discuss the way we males smell, and how other males react to that. Gay and bi guys attract both sexes I think. At least I know that other bi boys like to smell boys too. I have some stuff to get through right now for school and then supper and homework but I'll try to get back later.

Curtis you need to be thinking about the and what you'll post like it's what we were talking about on IM.
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Hey Eldon,
You got this idea from "Drinking is Healthy" thread?
Re: The way males smell.  [message #48648 is a reply to message #48646] Thu, 24 January 2008 23:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You know I dont have to think about it. Boys smell uber wonderful.



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Re: The way males smell.  [message #48649 is a reply to message #48647] Fri, 25 January 2008 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ROFLMAO! NO! if you read Anthony's last posting, we had gone to talking about fluoride treatments, and then leading to fluorine perhaps causing Alzheimer's, and the aluminum in anti-perspiants, and how Anthony likes the way he smells without deodorants.... and like always here one thread leads to others!

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Re: The way males smell.  [message #48650 is a reply to message #48648] Fri, 25 January 2008 00:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dude! Ain't it the truth!
Re: The way males smell.  [message #48651 is a reply to message #48650] Fri, 25 January 2008 01:06 Go to previous message
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We got grandad's hot water heater in and working by like two in the morning. Never sweat copper pipe when you're half asleep and too tired. That melted solder really hurts when it hits skin! Anyway, I was massively ragged out in school today. Jon and Dan asked why I was tired and I told them I worked pipe all night, and they about fell off the chairs laughing.
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