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Una Observacion  [message #50492] Mon, 19 May 2008 22:03 Go to next message
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Re: Una Observacion  [message #50493 is a reply to message #50492] Mon, 19 May 2008 22:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You know what, Jordan? That post is inappropriate. If you think about it you will realise why.



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Re: Una Observacion  [message #50495 is a reply to message #50492] Mon, 19 May 2008 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Una Observacion  [message #50496 is a reply to message #50495] Mon, 19 May 2008 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Take the hint, lad. Whatever you see as truth, the post is inappropiate, as is your reaction to being told so.



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Re: Una Observacion  [message #50497 is a reply to message #50492] Mon, 19 May 2008 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You know something... the board is here to use, it is also here to not use...

If some choose to not use it it is their choice... for whatever reasons they use to justify their participation or lack there of...

If you have a problem with someone, contact them in an email and hash it out...

Otherwise just know that the Joan Crawford, patent leather, hand on the hip foot stomp with a camp flourishing turn to the left is just... well... childish.



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Una Observacion  [message #50498 is a reply to message #50497] Mon, 19 May 2008 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Did Joan do that?



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Re: Una Observacion  [message #50499 is a reply to message #50498] Mon, 19 May 2008 22:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In every movie...



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Una Observacion  [message #50500 is a reply to message #50499] Mon, 19 May 2008 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Does that mean I have to see them? No, please no.......



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Re: Una Observacion  [message #50501 is a reply to message #50500] Mon, 19 May 2008 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it is a moral responsibility.... YES



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
icon4.gif Jordan  [message #50503 is a reply to message #50495] Tue, 20 May 2008 00:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just to be very clear, you have sent me a threatening email of some description and then continued with abuse. I want you to understand that I will post that email and any subsequent ones, including headers which have allowed me to identify precisely who you are, which church you attend, which school you attend and a book review of sorts that you wrote in ninth grade in full public view, accessible by search engines if your insulting behaviour continues.

Whatever you are seeking to prove, it is you that you will hurt.

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Re: Jordan  [message #50511 is a reply to message #50503] Tue, 20 May 2008 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dear Timmy,

I didn't see what Jordan posted as it was edited away before I looked for it.

Those of us in my position neither saw his post nor his email to you. Without that evidence your threat to him looks rather severe.

Should it too have been in a 'private' email?

I'm very unhappy to see threats of outing anyone on 'A Place of Safety' - even of someone who maybe isn't really in the closet.

Am I being too sensitive about this?

Anthony
Re: Jordan  [message #50512 is a reply to message #50503] Tue, 20 May 2008 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just to make sure you understand this, look at http://tinyurl.com/6dwnth and consider most carefully your actions. An apology, gracefully made, in public or in private, is very much in order. Without that you are very close to wearing out your welcome, whatever your own personal issues are. I do not take kindly to abusive nor threatening emails.

What happens next is your choice. I have already chosen to ignore one abusive email without publishing it, headers intact. I will not ignore a further one.



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Rationale  [message #50513 is a reply to message #50511] Tue, 20 May 2008 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jordan's post is above. Nothing has been removed (interesting, it seems that he is removing or has removed things. The post was a "someone is stopping the younger members form posting and they know who they are" post.). His email, in response to my telling him here that his post was inappropriate, was sent to me at my email address, and was threatening. It seemed to be some sort of clumsy attempt at blackmail, though was not specific.

Blackmail and threats tend to wither if exposed to the cold light of public scrutiny, and this is precisely the course of action that anyone should take with such things.

People cannot sail through life making bullying threats without being held fully accountable for their actions. The fact that he is 16 or so does not mean that he is unaware of his behaviour, and it does not mean that I will accept unpleasantness from him.

What he now sees in public as well as in private is that his further actions will have a reaction, and that it will be a reaction of his own choosing. What members and readers alike see is the simple way to deal with such a set of circumstances.

I am not making a threat, that is the point. Instead I have been threatened with something odd and unspecific. What I am seeking to do is to ensure that Jordan, the maker of that threat, understands that this is real life with real consequences. I have, in fact, already stayed my hand once. I am aware of the potential consequences of publishing the full email. It took less than 5 minutes to find his home address and phone number with no great knowledge and just an inquisitive mind.

What this also serves to do is to remind those who leave traces when they really ought not to that linking those traces together and locating them is easy. Sometimes we need a very practical example of this.

The boy has a free choice. He needs to act well and correctly. He may also contact me publicly or privately and apologise, but that is not a condition. He just knows, now, that he is wearing out his welcome.

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Closing and locking this thread  [message #50520 is a reply to message #50492] Tue, 20 May 2008 14:06 Go to previous message
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The matter is closed to the satisfaction of all parties.



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