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icon8.gif Your prayers please  [message #3717] Wed, 31 July 2002 10:11 Go to next message
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Some time ago I posted information on this MB about the first ever Pride Parade in Jerusalem (which was a great success). This parade was brought into existence by the sheer willpower and determination of a young guy, 26 years old, who is the director of the Jerusalem Open House for the GLBT community of the Holy City. His name is Haggai El'ad.

For several weeks now Haggai has been in hospital, paralyzed from the neck down with a virus and only breathing with mechanical assistance. The doctors have no prognosis because they have no real diagnosis. This is a known (rare) virus, but that is all they know.

Haggai is a brilliant guy (with a doctorate in astrophysics) and is completely secular in his beliefs and lifestyle. He cannot speak and has to communicate by people pointing to rows and letters on a board. Yesterday a colleague of mine visited him and he spelled out the word 'prayer'.

I intend to visit him soon and I would like to be able to tell him that many people from all over the world are praying for his recovery - each one in his own way.

This news has completely devastated me.
Re: Your prayers please  [message #3718 is a reply to message #3717] Wed, 31 July 2002 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i'll be keeping your friend in good thoughts.

peace
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Re: Your prayers please  [message #3719 is a reply to message #3717] Wed, 31 July 2002 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As you may know, Steve, I have forwarded this request worldwide. Please tell Haggai that over 800 sould have read your prayer (for the request alone is a prayer) and have him in their thoughts
icon7.gif Update on Haggai  [message #3720 is a reply to message #3717] Wed, 31 July 2002 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tim was kind enough to send out my message on his mailing list and messages have started to reach me for Haggai. I now have a little more information.



Haggai is suffering from the Guillain-Barré Syndrome, known as GBS. If you wish you can learn about this by clicking here.



I spoke to Haggai on the phone this afternoon: his mother put the phone to his ear so that he could hear me and I asked him to permit me to visit him next Sunday afternoon (he doesn't permit many visitors because he has his pride). He authorized my visit because I threatened dire consequences if he did not (Smile



Whatever email messages reach me by Sunday morning (GMT+3) I shall take with me and read to him.



After speaking to his mother I understand that the prognosis is now that he will eventually recover, but it could take some months of gradually weakening paralysis. After recovery he should be able to resume his normal life.

Add mine pls Dad  [message #3727 is a reply to message #3717] Wed, 31 July 2002 20:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My Prayers  [message #3734 is a reply to message #3717] Thu, 01 August 2002 02:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My letter is in the mail. Please carry it to your
friend and hug him for me.
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Have you visited him yet Steve?  [message #3800 is a reply to message #3717] Mon, 05 August 2002 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes I have.  [message #3813 is a reply to message #3800] Tue, 06 August 2002 02:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, I visited Haggai in hospital last Sunday afternoon. It was a very frustrating experience, because it is difficult to hold a conversation with someone who cannot respond. I must assume (and hope) that some progress is being made because for the first time he was obviously in great pain - which should mean that some sensation is returning or about to return.



He has a breathing tube going into his throat so he could not speak even if his paralysis were not preventing this. He was able to mouth the words "yes" and "no" and rolls his eyes a lot. I printed out all the messages I had received for him and asked him if he wanted me to read them. He said yes, but when I stopped for a moment he spelled out on a board the word 'slow'. I asked him if he wanted me to read slower, but he closed his eyes. I asked if he was in pain and he mouthed 'yes'. So we agreed that I would leave the messages with him to have them read to him when he felt better.



His family have arranged for friends and relatives to be with him constantly in three daily shifts. When I arrived he was attended by a [very hunky Smile] friend, who was later replaced by Haggai's mother. There are lots of messages and photos pinned onto a notice board - particularly a large photo of the thousands who took part in the Jerusalem Pride March which Haggai created 'out of nothing' - but I don't think that Haggai can see these from his bed because he would have to raise his head, which he cannot do. (While I was there he asked - via the spelling board - for a nurse to come and turn him over. It is so piteous.)



I offered to bring a book to read to him next time, which he accepted, but I have no idea of his taste in literature (and C & N has not yet been translated into Hebrew!) He needs something to occupy his mind. He has dozens of cd's (through headphones) and dozens of videos. I think that next time I shall take with me a trivia game to which all the answers are yes or no. Any ideas where I can find such a game that is not inane? (Remember, Haggai has a doctorate in astrophysics!)



I tried to being support to his family, and they are putting on a brave face. His mother, however, is obviously under strain: she told me that 'today is the 53rd day of his complete paralysis', so she is counting. It could go on for months.



For me, the most difficult moment was when a nurse came in to give Haggai his lunch. The nurse stuck a syringe into a socket on Haggai's wrist and injected his meal. It was over in 15 seconds.



I shall visit him again sometime in the next two weeks. Any advice on means of intelligent communication will be gratefully accepted.



Before I left I gave him my blessing. I told him that when he recovers he can either thank me or berate me for doing so - depending on his attitude at the time Smile

I have taken the liberty of sending this to my list  [message #3818 is a reply to message #3813] Tue, 06 August 2002 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Again you may receive responses. I hope so. Even if he simply counts them instead of reading them he wilknow, and so wil his mother, that people who never even met him are thinking of him.

A blessing is no less valid from a secular person. I add mine to yours. in the name of whatever god or faith or lack thereof he wishes.
I am very relieved he seems to be on the way to recovery...  [message #3830 is a reply to message #3813] Wed, 07 August 2002 10:47 Go to previous message
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...Even if it's a slow one.

I do not believe in prayer, but I do send my most heartfelt wishes for your friend to get well again. Having had a crippling nervous system infection myself, I know how horrible it is, even though I did not suffer nearly as bad as he!

I'm thinking about him, and wishing!

-Lenny



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