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Best mates or lovers?  [message #51242] Thu, 03 July 2008 00:31 Go to next message
brit is currently offline  brit

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One of my favorite movies is The Great Escape. If you are a movie lover and haven't seen this one, put it on your short list, because it's one of the best guy movies ever. Anyway, if you've seen it, I have a question.

I've always wondered about the relationship of strong man Danny (Charles Bronson) and the more diminutive Willy (John Leyton). They clearly are best mates, but my friend (and ex-wife) thinks there's no question that they are lovers. I'm not so sure. Given today's sensibilities, their interactions seem to be deeper, more emotional, more angsty than the usual depiction of a couple of male friends in a movie. The movie was made in 1963, though, and I don't think the audience of that time would have assumed they were in a gay relationship. What do y'all think?

Brit
Re: Best mates or lovers?  [message #51247 is a reply to message #51242] Thu, 03 July 2008 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acam is currently offline  acam

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If your wife is right, a reason the relationship would be understated could be that until 1967 homosexual acts, even in private, were illegal in the UK.

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Re: Best mates or lovers?  [message #51261 is a reply to message #51242] Thu, 03 July 2008 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Re: Best mates or lovers?  [message #51262 is a reply to message #51242] Thu, 03 July 2008 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Camy is currently offline  Camy

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Wow! It's never crossed my mind. I've seen the movie tens of times, and yet ... hmm ... possibly, is the only answer I can give.

I would think the relationships in a POW camp would be much like those at a boarding school, and they weren't all sexual in nature. Deep friendships can seem more to those outside them.

Definite food for thought!



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Re: Best mates or lovers?  [message #51325 is a reply to message #51262] Thu, 10 July 2008 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
electroken is currently offline  electroken

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I agree with you Camy. I never gave any thought to that possibility and I am a geezer born in 1939 so I was almost 30 when that movie was made. I think it was just that the guy was trying to protect and help the other guy make it to freedom as he maybe percieved the guy needed help to be able to make it.



Ken
Re: Best mates or lovers?  [message #51398 is a reply to message #51325] Fri, 11 July 2008 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brit is currently offline  brit

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That's my view as well. Shared hardship, perhaps a deep friendship, definitely a protective element, but no reason to suspect sexual undertones unless your mind can't help itself.
The Great Escape…  [message #51689 is a reply to message #51242] Sun, 20 July 2008 08:49 Go to previous message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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…is on BBC 2 today, Sunday, 20 July, at 17.15 BST, for those who want to check up.

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N



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