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JimB
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I'm with you, Paul, hard to believe. It took awhile to get through the courts and we can only hope that it is the last of his troubles.
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Benji
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For the life of me I cannot 'get' the connection to poor driving abilities and being gay. Clearly the Military wanted to punish him for being gay.
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marc
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Gay = feminine
Feminine = woman
Woman + driver = Woman driver
Woman driver = traffic hazzard
Gay = bad driver
[Updated on: Wed, 16 July 2008 20:48]
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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Benji
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LMAO!! Good Point Marc!
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Very intersting (and depressing), Paul.
Did anyone notice the link on the right hand side of the page Paul links to?
We discussed this here recently (almost ad nauseam) but here's a new twist that takes religious hypocrisy to new levels: http://tiny.pl/2tsb
J F R
The paradox has often been noted that the United States, founded in secularism, is now the most religiose country in Christendom, while England, with an established church headed by its constitutional monarch, is among the least. (Richard Dawkins, 2006)
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timmy
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So, our "orthodox committed christian" would have been incarcerated in a lunatic asylum 100 years ago for being an unmarried mother. In the orthodix view of marriage and childbirth this does not make her a committed christian to me.
Interesting.
She needs to form "Single black christian mothers against homosexuality". Or join the local chapter of Hypocrites R Us
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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marc
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When Kevin and I went to Vermont for our Civil Union Ceremony, as with any personal event, there was a bit of preparation.
The application which allowed the officials to properly prepare the official document... If I remember correctly there was also a waiting time (to ensure that unions were not haphazardly entered into)...
And Most importantly, to choose someone to perform the ceremony....
The man we selected was open, friendly and enthusiastic to perform our union. He corresponded with us for some months in order to choose the place to perform the ceremony, what words would be spoken... that sort of thing...
All was well...... or so we thought...
On the day we chose, August 3 to have our ceremony we drove from Montreal with a dozen friends to St. Albans Vermont.... no incident there...
Next, upon arrival we ventured into the City Hall with the intent of signing all the required documents... but...
The man who was to perform the ceremony had a family emergency the evening prior to our arrival...
While we were filling out the paperwork, one of the city registrars got on the phone and called the man and inquired as to his situation. The man informed the registrar that he was on the road back and would be only about three hours. The city employee then recomended a restaurant where we could find lunch and pointed out several antique shops where we could pass some additional time while we waited for the revised time to meet for our Civil Union.
Once all was said and done, The man agreed to go with us to the city hall to formally register the union so we could have a copy of the certificate.
That was the singularly most comfortable experience I ever had as a gay person. Kevin says he as well felt truly at ease, as well as all the others that accompanied us.
All throughout the entire process the city treated us all with all the due respect as befitting any other swimilar situation in the srtaight or any other community.
My point to all this is... Why would anyone choose a person with an advasarial attitude, for whatever reason, to perform the ceremony? Surely there had to be some others willing and ready to do the deed.
I mean, why run the chance of ruining the memory?
[Updated on: Thu, 17 July 2008 10:31]
Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
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timmy
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I think one needs to look at this from both ends. First, your point is 100% valid. The celebrant is vital to the smooth running and good feeling. Choose an empathic individual over a weirdo any time.
One must, as an employer, look at the tasks one's employees are to perform, and ask "Will they perform these tasks in accordance with the letter and spirit of their employment?" One then takes steps to dismiss those who fail to meet the standards.
No gay person would opt for our unmarried mother with a chip on her shoulder the size of Africa (chosen for its hostility to homosexuals, not because she is black herself). To me it makes sense to dismiss the bigot. Not, it seems, to the tribunal.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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I actually did notice that and it also came up on BBC news also. I wish we had had more facts while it was going throiugh process.. If we had I don't think her 'victory' would have been as certain as it was.
Paul.
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Benji
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(off-topic) But, how is public opinion over there now that it is learned that this 'devout' religious person is an unwed mother.
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
Registered: February 2003
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Is old news. It was a nine days wonder anyway
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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