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I finally did it ...  [message #52110] Tue, 12 August 2008 08:08 Go to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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The long-heralded trip to Canada to visit my father, that is.

We (self, brother & his wife & daughter) met up with him three times, each time for about three hours. He's so physically frail that that's about all he's capable of.

So, some thirty years after we effectively severed relations (though we've spoken on the phone a couple of times a year for the past 5 or 6 years), and 28 years after he emigrated, how was it?

Well, time has changed some things - he's clearly come to terms with homosexuality in general, and is making an effort: he even mentioned Vancouver Pride Parade with approval. But he still sees things the way he would like them to have been ... He either doesn't realise or doesn't remember quite how little he understood or approved of the quiet, intellectual and non-sporting boy I was (and I, of course, equally didn't understand the hetero-male sporting boyhood that my father had enjoyed, and based his parenting on ... I just knew that I couldn't be it!).

He is, at 79, elderly in a way that very few of my acquaintances in their 70's, 80's, and even 90's are. Living alone in sheltered housing, he has no friends within travel distance, and seems to have no interests in life - no future events to look forward to, and little interest in the future plans of other people. As a result, he can only talk about the past, which is (from my point of view) really not a good place.

Pity? Yes, I felt some of that, though I tried not to. Terror? Of ending up the same way, possibly. But mainly I felt that he hadn't really changed, that he still saw the world the way he wanted to, that his (changing) views were somehow the way the world had always been and always should be ... in short, that he has failed to understand (let alone embrace) diversity and the value and challenge that other people of different ages, backgrounds, sexualities and ethnicities bring to life.

My brother, who has always been a lot closer to him that I have, is encouraging him to move back to the UK for the final months or couple of years of his life. I doubt he'll do it, and would worry that my brother was taking on to much responsibility if our father moves to sheltered accommodation a couple of miles from him (my bro is subject to stress-related panic attacks and depression). And I would have very mixed feelings about having my father in the UK again: I think I'd feel obliged to try to re-build some kind of working relationship, though I don't quite see how that could be done.


Anyway, the rest of the time in Canada was fabulous - the best holiday I've ever had (not counting the India Overland hippy trail, which wasn't exactly a holiday). Lots of exciting wildlife, a whale-watching trip, a couple of days lazing on the beach, amazing scenery ... and a guided fishing trip on the Fraser river, where I caught my quota of two "catch, keep and eat" sockeye salmon in the morning, and in the afternoon caught-and-released what passes locally as a "small" sturgeon (they reach up to around nine feet long, but this one was more than enough for my dodgy back to deal with!)



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Re: I finally did it ...  [message #52112 is a reply to message #52110] Tue, 12 August 2008 13:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
acam is currently offline  acam

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Dear NW,

It sounds as if it went as well as could reasonably be expected. Judging by my own father, old men are liable to be more unreasonable and inflexible than old women. When they lose interest in things they don't last very long.

You sound to have had an energetic holiday and I hope you enjoyed yourself. If that's you on the right in the photo I have to say you look good! (I mean a lot better than the mini-pic in your profile).

Love,
Anthony
Re: I finally did it ...  [message #52113 is a reply to message #52112] Tue, 12 August 2008 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
NW is currently offline  NW

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thanks, Anthony. I do rather think that my father has lost interest in living, and is merely marking time.

And yes, that's me on the right in the pic - I do smile more in real life than in most photos!



"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
Re: I finally did it ...  [message #52116 is a reply to message #52113] Tue, 12 August 2008 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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Now thats a big fish to fry.....

Your brother could pass as a twin for a friend here in Sandusky...



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Re: I finally did it ...  [message #52124 is a reply to message #52110] Tue, 12 August 2008 18:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CallMePaul is currently offline  CallMePaul

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Dear NW,

There a couple of younger posters on the forum whose fathers reject them based on their sexuality. In talking with them I've come to understand the depth of the feelings that such rejection can bring. It was no small thing for you to make this trip as you knew it would bring back old, best forgotten, memories. But you've been able to see what his own anger and self righteousness have earned him. He is a lonely, bitter old man. I'm sure he does regret his past actions, but, as you've described, he still feels he was in the right. You've done what you felt needed doing and that is what is important. Your conscience is clear and you can move forward in life.

Now, for something a little less serious. I noticed the belt you were wearing in the photo. I know it is a harness to rest your fishing rod in while fighting the heavy sturgeon. But, darn it, it gives me naughty thoughts anyways. Heheheh.;-D And one other thing - you are indeed a handsome fellow.



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Re: I finally did it ...  [message #52134 is a reply to message #52110] Tue, 12 August 2008 20:59 Go to previous message
Deeej is currently offline  Deeej

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Dear NW,

I'm glad that the trip to Canada went well. I hope you managed to put some demons to rest with the visits to your father. Thanks for the update and photo -- I'm really envious of the rest of your trip!

David
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