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"But I never realised he was gay....!"  [message #53009] Sun, 07 September 2008 17:20 Go to next message
timmy

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I must be pretty naive. Until they came out I never realised the following were gay!
  • Frankie Howerd
  • Kenny Everett
  • Freddy Mercury
  • Elton John
Do you guys have a few to add to the list, the ones that you never realised were gay?



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Re: "But I never realised he was gay....!"  [message #53011 is a reply to message #53009] Sun, 07 September 2008 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The only one that I can think of is Rob Halford - lead singer with the heavy metal band 'Judas Priest'.



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Re: "But I never realised he was gay....!"  [message #53012 is a reply to message #53009] Sun, 07 September 2008 21:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I should have added Wilfred Brambell and Dirk Bogarde (though he never came out, did he?), too



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Re: "But I never realised he was gay....!"  [message #53018 is a reply to message #53009] Mon, 08 September 2008 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Timmy wrote:
>Do you guys have a few to add to the list, the ones that you never realised were gay?<

I'm having difficulty with this question. If I didn't realise they were gay, how can I add their names to the list?

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Re: "But I never realised he was gay....!"  [message #53021 is a reply to message #53018] Mon, 08 September 2008 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"until they came out or someone told you.....?"



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After a little research  [message #53022 is a reply to message #53009] Mon, 08 September 2008 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Simon Amstell, Andrew Hayden-Smith, John Barrowman, Matti Lucas, Dale Winton, Boy George, Ian McKellen, David Paisley, Will Young, Michael Cashman, Stephen Fry, George Michael, Stephen Gately.

All these are British celebrities (well, one is Irish).

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Re: After a little research  [message #53023 is a reply to message #53022] Mon, 08 September 2008 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's funny how we miss the obvious, isn't it?



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Re: "But I never realised he was gay....!"  [message #53024 is a reply to message #53009] Mon, 08 September 2008 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why does it matter if they are gay or not?

How does it matter?



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Well, I just thought it might be interesting, amusing, fun.  [message #53025 is a reply to message #53024] Mon, 08 September 2008 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Beats me. I just thought it might be interesting. It interested me, so I posted it. Seems it interested a few others. They posted.



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Re: "But I never realised he was gay....!"  [message #53026 is a reply to message #53024] Mon, 08 September 2008 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Obviously, it doesn't "matter" in the least - much of what we talk about on here doesn't.

But I've found it interesting so far ... perhaps not least because my own perception of myself is that I tend to have "gaydar" for people aged under about 25 (I may know about them long before they admit it to themselves, or come out: in the case of one lad I knew he way gay 20 years before he did!). Alas, any "gaydar" usually fails me with people closer to my own age.

So for me the interest is not in "who is gay", but which of the posters here recognised which of the well-known people mentioned, if that makes any kind of sense.



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Re: Well, I just thought it might be interesting, amusing, fun.  [message #53027 is a reply to message #53025] Mon, 08 September 2008 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think were missing something here. Gay boys, (most that ive known anyway) have low self esteme. They for the most part have grown up in hostil environments. boys or girls both gay and straight need role models to look up to. It really doesnt mater if someone is gay or str8t except to show a gay child that anything is possible even for them. that gay men can become heros, world chanpions and acomplished actors and actrisses.



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Re: "But I never realised he was gay....!"  [message #53028 is a reply to message #53009] Tue, 09 September 2008 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hummm!!, Even from across the pond I always knew Elton was gay, his earlier music basically said it, from my high school days. Freddie didn't surprise me yet I always thought so just from the band's name "Queen" LOL. Liberace, Boy George dead give always, ya'll don't need gaydar here.
Re: Well, I just thought it might be interesting, amusing, f  [message #53029 is a reply to message #53027] Tue, 09 September 2008 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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True indeed and worth a thread of its own, so I will start one Smile



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Re: "But I never realised he was gay....!"  [message #53033 is a reply to message #53024] Tue, 09 September 2008 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Marc wrote:
>Why does it matter if they are gay or not? How does it matter?<

Of course it matters. It would affect the kind of strippogram I would send them.

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Re: "But I never realised he was gay....!"  [message #53043 is a reply to message #53028] Tue, 09 September 2008 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But doesn't it matter to you, Benji,

whether the guy was someone you could admire?

I think everyone knew Liberace was gay (or at least effeminate) but I couldn't stand him or his programs. Same goes for Larry Grayson.

I remember when Gilbert Harding was on 'This is Your Life' and being a bit nauseated by him and the way he tried to conceal his sexuality. Give me Tom Driberg every time!

Strangely I've had a few extremely camp friends who were not homosexual. I don't react the same way to them at all.

You know, they say the way to learn something properly is to teach it. Well I think the way to understand one's sexuality is to talk about it in a place of safety. Anyone agree to that?

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Anthony
absolutely  [message #53052 is a reply to message #53043] Tue, 09 September 2008 17:14 Go to previous message
timmy

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acam wrote:
> You know, they say the way to learn something properly is to teach it. Well I think the way to understand one's sexuality is to talk about it in a place of safety. Anyone agree to that?

That is one of the reasons I set it up Smile



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