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timmy
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I'm a member of a discussion group that drools over Bjorn Andresen. One member is trying to convince me that Angelo Kelly of "The Kelly Family" is gorgeous. But I look at him and think "overweight piglet"!
Now, The Kelly Family is very famous, but only in Germany, it seems. American "vagrant family who have made a shedload of money off looking like a bunch of tramps.
Pop over to Youtube, and find Angelo Kelly in his heyday (the mid 1960s) and tell me if you see "piglet" too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol5rSB44Kfk is one he features in. Blond wavy hair, NOT the initial guitarist. Look for 1:30 or so in.
This band was big, in a global nonentity kind of way, and Anglo can often be seen stripped to the waist. They were definitely after the paedo market!
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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With all the close on I cant tell really if he is overweight or not. What gets to me is the hair. Made me want to run on stage with a pair of hedge sheers.
If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.
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He doesn't do anything for me, but then Björn Andresen doesn't either, when himself and out of character. When dressed and made up as Tadzio that is a different matter. In the part his purpose to be attractive, but even then he is not immediately so. I have to work on it, starting with his hair.
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I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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Culled from 'The Guardian' at http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2003/oct/16/gender.film
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N
“I feel used”
Björn Andresen has only seen the cover of Germaine Greer’s new book, but he is not very happy about it. The reason is that Andresen is – or rather, was – the boy whose image adorns the front cover of The Boy, Greer’s characteristically feisty combination of art history and coffee-table erotica.
In 1970 the 15-year-old Andresen played Tadzio in Death in Venice, Luchino Visconti’s adaptation of a Thomas Mann story. Overnight Andresen became a celebrity, adored as the ethereally beautiful, blond-locked boy who becomes a fatal object of desire for Gustav von Aschenbach, played by Dirk Bogarde. But not just for him.
Being immortalised as a beautiful boy was not a blessing, but a curse. “I felt like an exotic animal in a cage,” he says. And because it happened so early in his life, it distorted all his experience for years afterwards. “ Even today,” he says “I don't know how to flirt. When you have only to snap your fingers… there’s a lot of social training you miss out on as a celebrity.”
But as for Greer’s The Boy, the issue still rankles. “She, or the publisher, might have asked me beforehand,” he observes.
[edited to show an extract and link to the article]
[Updated on: Fri, 26 September 2008 06:04] by Moderator
I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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timmy
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He was not the copyright owner, David Bailey was. So his consent or not is irrelevant, of course. But it makes a story.
By the way, quoting an entire article is a potential breach of copyright, so do you think you could cut it to a maximum of 3 paragraphs and give the url?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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There is no URL. Once the article has been published in a newspaper without the © mark it is in the public domain. If it is a breach of copyright, please withdraw it.
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I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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Looking and listening I just wonder who they had to sell their soul to to make it as far as they did.
Yes, piglet does come to mind, but piglet was not without a certain cuteness I suppose, But Tadzio had him beat hands down....
People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm
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Awww the long hair was one of his best assets LOL
People will tell you where they've gone
They'll tell you where to go
But till you get there yourself you never really know
Where some have found their paradise
Other's just come to harm
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timmy
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2003/oct/16/gender.film
I think you misunderstand the laws of copyright. It is not in the public domain in the way you believe. It is public, yes, but it is still protected by copyright, with or without the symbol or a statement saying so, certainly in the UK, simply by virtue of having been written.
So is this post and so are everyone else's posts.
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Thanks, Timmy.
Hugs
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I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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Fingolfin
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I've never really liked the Kelly Family and Angelo is (for me) a major turn off. I just can't find him attractive. Bjorn is a different story... In my eyes he belongs to that rare group of young males that I call "a perfect model for a youth male beauty". He is (was) gorgeous. However, I somehow pity him, 'cos it his beauty destroyed his life (or made it more complicated in certain situations). Reminds me of the book "The Portrait of Dorian Gray". Hm...
Marek
It is better to switch on a small light than to curse the darkness.
- Vincent Šikula, Slovak writer
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timmy
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I suspect he was given poor career guidance. Beauty does not destroy one's life. Alcohol is not destroying the idiot who has not finished my kitchen. It is how we choose to live our lives that makes or breaks us.
I've seen pics of Piglet as a much older person. Oh dear. The promise of youth has turned into reality. Piglet => Pig. And they stripped this child off and made him go on stage topless in order to sell tickets! He had boy breasts!
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Fingolfin
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Yeah, it's always choices we make. Take McCauley Culkin or Haley Joel Osment...
To the movie industry Mac is dead meat...
Can Osment act now that he is an adult or will we remember him only from Forrest Gump, AI and 6th Sense forever???
It is better to switch on a small light than to curse the darkness.
- Vincent Šikula, Slovak writer
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Some parents and some children are smart enough to not allow the industry (film, acting) and those with self interest to ruin their lives. One of the greatest child actors of all time decided to stop, finish school and set her life in order first, and that was Shirley Temple Black. Haley Joel Ozment is taking care of his education and his acting is taking a back seat. McCauley is, I think, still acting altho he hasnt done anything lately.
If you stand for Freedom, but you wont stand for war, then you dont stand for anything worth fighting for.
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The copyright statement is at the bottom of the page.
guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2008
(\\__/) And if you don't believe The sun will rise
(='.'=) Stand alone and greet The coming night
(")_(") In the last remaining light. (C. Cornell)
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timmy
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Even if it were not present, the material is still the copyright of the medium.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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To clarify and to prevent the point being laboured any further - I took the article from my own archives. What this means is that I possibly OCRed it, but more likely typed it out back in 2003. That's why I had no URL. I have taken the point. Can we let it rest now, please? Anyone can be wise after the event.
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I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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timmy
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Location: UK, in Devon
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Sorry, Nigel. This is not meant to look like an attack on you in any way. Rather it is to let others understand a little more of how copyright works. We all have the right not to know something, after all.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Thanks, Timmy. I understand that you have a job to do and I appreciate what you do. It was when E.J. added his two penny worth that I thought the matter was getting out of hand.
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I dream of boys with big bulges in their trousers,
Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.
…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
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