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Closing down sale?  [message #54315] Fri, 24 October 2008 07:23 Go to next message
Nigel is currently offline  Nigel

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Global recessions seems to have hit the site. Is no one out there investing in it?

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Never of girls with big bulges in their blouses.

…and look forward to meeting you in Cóito.
Re: Closing down sale?  [message #54317 is a reply to message #54315] Fri, 24 October 2008 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Fingolfin is currently offline  Fingolfin

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I invest regularly, no matter whether its up or down.... Diversification of risk (is this the name in English as well? I translated it word by word from Slovak....)

Marek



It is better to switch on a small light than to curse the darkness.
- Vincent Šikula, Slovak writer
icon7.gif Re: Closing down sale?  [message #54318 is a reply to message #54317] Fri, 24 October 2008 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
paulj is currently offline  paulj

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yes indeed ..... or 'Don't keep all your eggs in one basket' .... as when you fall over you will get a lot of ' Egg on your face'...
Re: Closing down sale?  [message #54319 is a reply to message #54315] Fri, 24 October 2008 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You know we have noticed advert revenue fall off recently! You would think that more folks would advertise in a recession.

And Google can only find public service adverts to place alongside this! http://timtrent.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-porn-sites-lead-way-in-web.html and public service adverts generate zero revenue.

We have to find about $60 per month to keep the site running, and we are managing that each month without resorting to putting adverts on iomfats.org itself.



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icon6.gif Actually ...  [message #54323 is a reply to message #54315] Fri, 24 October 2008 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JimB is currently offline  JimB

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... I became addicted to reading a rather exceptional and long story; you know, one of those that you can't put down and stay up until the AM hours reading. But I did think of y'all here at A Place of Safety and want to share this find with you. It is called "The Road Home" by Tyler Peel and this is the URL where I found it:

http://tylerpeel.closettales.net/tylerpeel/The_Road_Home/

There are 50 multi-hour chapters and it has a lot of great humor wrapped around a really good story. It is all about family and brotherhood and love and reminds me of Grasshopper's "Just Hit Send".

I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

JimB
Re: Actually ...  [message #54325 is a reply to message #54323] Fri, 24 October 2008 17:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
paulj is currently offline  paulj

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I would say that anything in the same genre or style as Grasshopper's 'Just Hit Send' is highly likely to be compelling reading.
Its the sort of story I would read as it's 1. Complete 2. A genre I enjoy.

Thank you

Paul J.

[Updated on: Fri, 24 October 2008 17:49]

Re: Closing down sale?  [message #54337 is a reply to message #54315] Fri, 24 October 2008 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My absence is purely due to having been marooned in a WiFi-less hotel in Liverpool for the past three days!

Currently spending a night at my sister's place (YAY! WiFi!): home tomorrow and a return to normality.

I am *completely* art-ed out! As well as a one-day conference on the provision of studios for artists, I've seen more exhibitions and galleries than I normally take in in a month - ranging from the "Fellow Travellers" show by Gay and Lesbian artists which is nevertheless NOT about being gay (!?), through a "Tom of Finland" retrospective (all black leather, big dicks and bulging baskets - not my kind of thing at all, but it was in the same space as "Fellow Travellers") through to an immense, detailed, and utterly absorbing exhibition on the architect Le Corbusier, with a wealth of models, plans, artifacts, and video material.

Needless to say, my mind is reeling a bit from all this!



"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
Re: Closing down sale?  [message #54366 is a reply to message #54319] Sat, 25 October 2008 13:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pipo is currently offline  pipo

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Just out of curiosity, what is your objection against putting google ads here? Perhaps you consider it unsafe or google itself has some small print that stops you from doing that?
Adverts  [message #54369 is a reply to message #54366] Sat, 25 October 2008 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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There is a weird boundary which Google will not define and which you may not cross. If you cross it they cancel your account. If you ask them if a site will cross it they say "Try it and see"

So we do not risk losing the account.

I may, at some point, consider non Google services, but I have never seen the site as a source of revenue. Instead I am content that we make it break even. We do have to build a war chest up to ensure its future, but that is also Ok at present.

The problem is that a lot of adverts are rather tacky.



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Re: Adverts  [message #54370 is a reply to message #54369] Sat, 25 October 2008 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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I think it is called the dirty content line.

Well, you know what I mean.......



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Adverts  [message #54371 is a reply to message #54370] Sat, 25 October 2008 14:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timmy

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pretty much. But Google fails to actually define it. They truly ought to validate a site "as is" when they accept it and cancel the site, not the account.



Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
Re: Adverts  [message #54373 is a reply to message #54371] Sat, 25 October 2008 14:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc is currently offline  marc

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But there is no such thing as "as is" when regarding a website... They are always in flux aand as such never "finished"...

Google won't define the "line" because that would set a precident of solid rules... But their rules need to be not only flexible but strictly unnamed because no one will set the bar for them.



Life is great for me... Most of the time... But then I meet people online... Very few are real friends... Many say they are but know nothing of what it means... Some say they are, but are so shallow...
Re: Adverts  [message #54378 is a reply to message #54371] Sat, 25 October 2008 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pipo is currently offline  pipo

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Thanks for the explanation, I agree that canceling the account rather than only blocking the site if they don't like it makes the risk for you too high. Shame though, google is a gay-friendly company (Sergey Brin clearly and publicly opposed Proposition 8, see http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/our-position-on-californias-no-on-8.html), but that may not hold true for an individual employee that happens to review your site Sad
Re: Adverts  [message #54379 is a reply to message #54378] Sat, 25 October 2008 18:09 Go to previous message
timmy

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There is a huge difference between being gay friendly (I am also str8 friendly), and making an objective determination of crossing the invisible line between good taste and bad taste.

In the UK the suitability of a penis for display used to be based upon The Mull of Kintyre. Not the dreaful dirge by the ex Beatle, but the angle of the geography. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mull_of_Kintyre_test and giggle.

But at what point does a story cross that line? What is, for me, fine, is, for you, disgusting (I'm sure we can find something!). So who judges and how do they judge?



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