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gay marriage ban as of 11:23 pm est in cali  [message #54570] Wed, 05 November 2008 04:23 Go to next message
Senne is currently offline  Senne

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Option Vote% Total Votes
YES
57%


220,182
NO
43%


168,736
2 % Reporting Updated 2008-11-04 23:16:09 EST
Re: gay marriage ban as of 11:23 pm est in cali  [message #54571 is a reply to message #54570] Wed, 05 November 2008 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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4%
61-39 in favor of ban

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Re: gay marriage ban as of 11:23 pm est in cali  [message #54572 is a reply to message #54571] Wed, 05 November 2008 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Down here in florida, they did the same thing. Also in arizona,too. I don't have the %'s yet.

At least Obama aknowleged us in his acceptance speach. "Gay, straight, black,white, disabled...etc"

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Not good, but it could be a lot worse  [message #54573 is a reply to message #54570] Wed, 05 November 2008 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I suppose you need to set this crap against getting the president that is required at present. While it's one hell of a sacrifice to make, with luck it will be worth it. Many of the rights of marriage can be secured with the use of a good lawyer.

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Re: Not good, but it could be a lot worse  [message #54574 is a reply to message #54573] Wed, 05 November 2008 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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86% as of 5:50 this morning
52 Yea
48 Nea
Re: Not good, but it could be a lot worse  [message #54577 is a reply to message #54574] Wed, 05 November 2008 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm sorry, Jordan, but at least the passing of proposition 8 doesn't stop people living together. And I think that the ban on gays adopting children that some states have passed is worse.

Maybe you will gradually get a more liberal supreme court that will decide it is part of the rights of every citizen that they can marry.

And I do think that you may be in for some quite long-needed changes like the closure of Guantanamo and withdrawal from Iraq which may help to start rebuilding the reputation of the USA (which is not any longer thought of as a beacon of justice or truth or democracy) but, of course, the big problem is how to get the economy back in shape and the way Wall St is regulated changed so that meltdown won't happen again.

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Re: Not good, but it could be a lot worse  [message #54578 is a reply to message #54574] Wed, 05 November 2008 17:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jordon, Curtis tells me you are quit smart and a good man. dont fret to much over the marrage proposition. There are other legal ways to accomplish the same things. Marrage doesnt work for straight people, so why on earth do gays think they can make it work. The first couple to get married on the east coast were also the first to file divorce papers. They were better off just living together. Remember, marrage is whats in your heart and mind, not a peace of paper a state provids.



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Re: Not good, but it could be a lot worse  [message #54581 is a reply to message #54577] Wed, 05 November 2008 19:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My state of Idaho has banned gay marriage. Yet there is a gay couple in my church that have adopted a child of mixed race. They are also foster parents for three young sisters that are soon to be adopted as well.

This may seem to be a Catch-22, gays who can't marry yet adopt children. Yet when you consider the number of children that seem to be un-adoptable (mixed race, infirmities, etc) the state is willing to do what is right for the child. But it needs to stay low key or the evangelicals and fundamentalists will raise their swords and pass more 'anti-gay' laws.

Children grow up and become voters. They also express their opinions to friends and in newspapers. Their friends have seen that this family is just as normal as any straight family. And of course these aren't the only gay foster or adopting parents in this state. I believe there will be a time when they can shame this right wing state with loving stories of their two dads or two moms. It will take time, but I believe time is on our side.



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Re: Not good, but it could be a lot worse  [message #54590 is a reply to message #54578] Thu, 06 November 2008 13:29 Go to previous message
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Roger wrote:

Marrage doesnt work for straight people, so why on earth do gays think they can make it work.

In support of what Roger wrote:

A man is walking along wearing a T-shirt that has emblazoned on the chest the legend "I am the best husband in the whole world". A friend walks up to him and says, "That's a super T-shirt. Did your wife give it to you?" The proud wearer replies, "No. My next-door neighbours are getting divorced so they're selling everything."

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