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Macky
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I was thinking. I have always enjoyed taking the active part in the subject act. Now why is that? Infantile exploration, like a baby sticking everything in its mouth? Desire to please others? Desire to possess others? Desire to be joined to another? Active fellatio can be hard to do. More than once I've gotten a sore throat from the friction. So why do I like it so much? Love. Macky
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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it lies in freud
his psychosexual development
The Oral Stage
The oral stage begins at birth, when the oral cavity is the primary focus of libidal energy. The child, of course, preoccupies himself with nursing, with the pleasure of sucking and accepting things into the mouth. The oral character who is frustrated at this stage, whose mother refused to nurse him on demand or who truncated nursing sessions early, is characterized by pessimism, envy, suspicion and sarcasm. The overindulged oral character, whose nursing urges were always and often excessively satisfied, is optimistic, gullible, and is full of admiration for others around him. The stage culminates in the primary conflict of weaning, which both deprives the child of the sensory pleasures of nursing and of the psychological pleasure of being cared for, mothered, and held. The stage lasts approximately one and one-half years.
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Macky
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Thank you Jordan.
My wife asked my mother about my nursing habits as an infant, trying to understand why my son wouldn't nurse as an infant. Thereby, I learned that I did not take to the teet as a baby. Does this have any bearing upon my subsequent development into a homosexual individual? The fact that I'm married and a father is a separate subject altogether. Love you all Macky
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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timmy
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Maybe it's just fun being able to make someone else feel good 
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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Yup, Timmy that's what I think too. I'm not impressed by Freud's theories (sorry, Jordan) because there is no way to disprove them.
[I think if there is no way to disprove a theory then it can't make any difference whether it is true or not so it doesn't matter.]
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Macky
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Timmy, now doesn't that just speak volumes about what a beautiful people we gays are! I hope this is the correct answer! Love you all! Macky
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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timmy
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I jut love the POWER anyone has to give pleasure.
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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timmy
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I thought Freud had been largely discredited?
Author of Queer Me! Halfway Between Flying and Crying - the true story of life for a gay boy in the Swinging Sixties in a British all male Public School
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As far as I'm concerned, that would be the be-all and end-all of it. I actually positively dislike having my dick sucked (though I'll put up with it for a short time if it's really important to a partner). As for sucking dick - to me it's a small part of foreplay rather than the main event, though again I've been known to 'oblige' to make someone I care about feel good.
As to why ... In my case, it's quite simple: seeing a partners face is an important part of the sharing for me. So mutual masturbation or face-to-face anal sex are things I enjoy, blowjobs are not.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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Macky
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Well a chaque son gout, I guess. But there are faces and there faces, however all penises are beautiful to me. I tried protected passive anal once and it hurt like hell. Never felt the urge to do it again. Did active a couple of times when guys wanted it, but had difficulty doing it with anyone after I knew how it felt. The thouhgt that it might hurt them made me lose my erection. One positive though, after my active partner reamed me out, never had problems with hemmorhoids again! Love. Macky
Behold, how good and how pleasant it is
For brothers to dwell together in unity!
Ps 133:1 NASB
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Macky wrote:
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> I tried protected passive anal once and it hurt like hell. Never felt the urge to do it again. Did active a couple of times when guys wanted it, but had difficulty doing it with anyone after I knew how it felt.
There's absolutely no need for it to hurt, in any way (though I admit my first couple of times did, due to woeful ignorance on the part of both of us in those pre-internet days). I'm sorry to hear that your experiences were so bad. But, as you say, each to their own ... though if a guy with some experience suggests that you "top" and you happen to feel like it, don't assume that he'll hurt in the way you did!
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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The thing about Freud is the great volume of his work over many years: his theories changed so much over time that it's rather difficult to say exactly what he *did* think about many things.
I do completely agree about the doubtful "truth", and the lack of falsifiability, of most Freudian theories. But that doesn't IMO make them worthless, and anyway most of the Freudian analysts I know (who are nearly all connected with the Anna Freud Centre in Hampstead, where my aunt worked for over 30 years) take a pretty pragmatic approach - if one of Freud's theories helps: great - otherwise, try another one until you find one that does help the patient!
And on the subject of Freud,I hope people don't mind if I quote again one of his letters, that I posted here a couple of years ago ...
"Dear Ms. X.- Homosexuality is assuredly of no advantage, but it is nothing to be ashamed of, no vice, no degradation, it cannot be classed as an illness; we consider it to be a variation of the sexual function... Many highly respected individuals of ancient and modern times have been homosexuals, several of the greatest men among them (Plato, Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, etc. ). It is a great injustice to prosecute homosexuality as a crime, and cruelty too...
By asking me if I can help, you mean, I suppose, if I can abolish homosexuality and make normal heterosexuality take its place. The answer is, in a general way, we cannot promise to achieve it... What analysis can do for your son runs in a different line. If he is unhappy, neurotic, torn by conflicts, inhibited in his social life, analysis may bring him harmony, peace of mind, full efficiency, whether he remains a homosexual or gets changed... "
Sigmund Freud - Letter to an American Mother
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars." Martin Luther King
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Me too, NW.
I've never either had or given a blow job!
Love,
Anthony
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