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Aretha Franklin  [message #55479] Tue, 20 January 2009 16:58 Go to next message
timmy

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Interesting to hear her sing. The language she used was, of course, a dialect of the mother tongue "Scream"

How lucky, as Megaman told me just now, that there was not a nipple accident today there.

I've been wondering. If the USA ever gets a gay president, will every single participant of the ceremony be gay too? or is this just a black thing?

USA, you have a PRESIDENT. His race should be irrelevant. Why isn't it?



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Re: Aretha Franklin  [message #55488 is a reply to message #55479] Tue, 20 January 2009 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess, Timmy, for the same reason that his religion isn't irrelevant or his sexuality or his education or many other things about politicians that make the electorate choose to vote for them.

But in a year or two it maybe will have become irrelevant and if he has his way I bet that's what he would want.

And when 'black' americans think it is irrelevant then it really will be (whereas when white liberals say it is you can be sure it isn't). And it will have not to matter whether one says 'black' or 'coloured' or something else. I bet there are still two or three generations of political correctness words to describe it.

I wonder how long it will be before 'gay' is superseded as the adjective of choice for homosexuals?

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Re: Aretha Franklin  [message #55489 is a reply to message #55479] Tue, 20 January 2009 22:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Obama is said to be of black and white parentage. So why is it that only the black bit is emphasised?

By the way I found the bits of his inaugural speech empty rhetoric (compare a certain Tony Bliar). I wonder if the same sort of things will be said in four or eight years time.

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Re: Aretha Franklin  [message #55490 is a reply to message #55489] Tue, 20 January 2009 22:36 Go to previous message
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Nigel wrote:
> Obama is said to be of black and white parentage. So why is it that only the black bit is emphasised?
(snip)

For much the same reasons as people - including assorted guys who have posted here - tend to see bisexuals as "gay". People are singled out by what is "different from the 'majority'" about them (unfortunately) ... where there are two easy options and a range of values inbetween, everyone who isn't a member of the 'majority' tends to get lumped into the 'other' category.

This previously led to unfortunate situations where "race" is a matter of legal definition (fortunately, this discredited concept is leaving the lawbook in most countries), usually resulting in the offspring of a person of a less-favoured "race" with a person of more-favoured "race" being legally defined as belong to the less-favoured (and so, often, a slave). This historical legacy is not easy for a society to outgrow ... depressing though that thought may be.



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